To think the royal family are being tacticle...

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By talking about the environment to try and get us to forget about the racist allegations. I'd even go as far to say that what the queen said was all staged to make it more of a headline.

To think that the royal family is not racist is so redickulous...they are more than racist, they think their blood line nevermind race is worthy of all their wealth and luxuries over other people.

Of course they are. Every little thing they do is to maintain their fragile position at the top. Always has been. People are ridiculous to think there's anything real about them.

I think their childhoods were shit though, many actually abusive and I think they're kinda brainwashed , like they're raised in a cult.

Yeah we will ask again once the queen has turned up her toes. Bet king Charles won't get so much support.

@TheKeatingFive

I think you're being harsh. Price Charles was on the radio last week saying he fuels his Aston Martin with surplus English white wine. I bet you just pour your surplus wine away. We could and should be more like them

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I presume you don't believe him, but it is well documented. The car was converted by Aston Martin specialist RS Williams a while ago and runs on bioethanol produced by Green Fuels. The bioethanol is made from wine unfit for human consumption mixed with whey. This is then blended by adding 15% unleaded petrol to produce a viable fuel.

My annoyance would be the hypocrisy of the Queen, with her gigantic carbon footprint and jet-setting family, moaning about people not doing enough for the environment. Get your own house - I mean, 40 or so houses - in order, Liz, before you lecture others

Quite - and she could start with her wastrel eldest son who reportedly avoids flying commercial wherever possible

This "Charles has cared about the environment for decades" is becoming like the "67p a week" and just as ridiculous

We shall soon see won’t we?

Charles is +17% and Edward is +20%. All other members of the family are above +50%.

It's not that people don't believe it, it's just that presenting it as some kind of grand environmental gesture, given the lifestyle he leads, it's just too ridiculous for words.

Whoops I quote the wrong thing. I meant this.

I presume you don't believe him, but it is well documented. The car was converted by Aston Martin specialist RS Williams a while ago and runs on bioethanol produced by Green Fuels.

If he really cared about the environment, maybe he could start by just having one house?

And the Queen lobbied to be exempt from climate change laws. Bloody hypocrite.

If he really cared about the environment, maybe he could start by just having one house?

Radical 😆

2 bed terrace?

You’re probably right. I saw my neighbour putting out the recycling last night and I thought to myself “that’s just to distract from the fact that he’s a white supremacist, probably”.

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@TheKeatingFive I would be fine with him just having one mansion to heat and light.

prh47bridge Before you exhaust yourself further in your defence of the royals , could you comment on the fact that the queen lobbied to have her land in Scotland excluded from Green legislation ?

And the Aston Martin thing to run on wine is just playing with toys.

Camilla is only positive by 1%, Charles is +17% and Edward is +20%. All other members of the family are above +50%

Considering how soon he's likely to be king I'd say that's pretty worrying for Charles - or would be, if he had the slighest self knowledge

Granted there'll be an absolute deluge of planted articles about what a noble king he is, and no doubt some will suck them up, but I'll also be interested to see what his rating is after a few years ... especially if he gets his way over Camilla being crowned consort and then she's hiding at Ray Millnowhere to be seen

Prince Charles’s quaint solution to decarbonise his Aston Martin using a high blend of bioethanol made from cheese and wine wastes should not be mistaken for a serious solution to decarbonise vehicles,” said Greg Archer, UK director of T&E, a European clean transport campaign group.

“On a large scale biofuels do more harm than good, driving deforestation and land use change that worsens the climate crisis.”

Oh dear not quite as green as he think ls it is.

Its also not a scalable solution for the rest of us.

@Dreamstate yeah its a toy. Nothing more.

@TheKeatingFive

Charles is +17% and Edward is +20%. All other members of the family are above +50%.

This doesn't bode well at all actually. The Queen is very popular. Once she goes and Charles takes over, their popularity will wane significantly alongside demographic shifts towards a younger and less enamoured population.

I'd be very interested to see the polls 5 years into Charles reign.

Possibly. Whilst he is only +17%, people don't have as strong views about him as they do about most other members of the RF. The vast majority of those giving him a rating go for "fairly" positive or negative rather than "very". Of course, given that he is already in his 70s, he may not be king very long. The crown would then go to William who is +62%.

@TheKeatingFive

Charles is +17% and Edward is +20%. All other members of the family are above +50%.

It's not that people don't believe it, it's just that presenting it as some kind of grand environmental gesture, given the lifestyle he leads, it's just too ridiculous for words.

(I know you quoted the wrong thing here)

That I understand. His carbon footprint is around double the average for the UK. Over half his carbon footprint comes from travel on trips the government sends him on.

His carbon footprint is around double the average for the UK. Over half his carbon footprint comes from travel on trips the government sends him on.

Omg you are as gullible as they come

And the Queen lobbied to be exempt from climate change laws. Bloody hypocrite

You're right of course, but frankly I'm surprised we even know about it
I mentioned "Queen's Consent" on another thread, the iniquitous system by which she can veto any laws which affect her or the Duchy, and my understanding is that this is done by consulting her before any such laws even begin their usual progress so that "unwelcome" measures never see the light of day

All of which is why I'm not sure how this became known - though I believe it applies to her Scottish places so might be done differently there?

Given that (Charles) is already in his 70s, he may not be king very long. The crown would then go to William who is +62%

All in all this may well be the monarchists' best hope - and perhaps the reason they sing God Save the Queen with such fervour

Possibly. Whilst he is only +17%, people don't have as strong views about him as they do about most other members of the RF.

The problem is that huge numbers of people mix up 'liking the Queen as HOS' with being a monarchist. We are about to see all that come crashing down. If will be really interesting.

@Clementineapples

They’re not racist you utter tit

Wow. That's persuasive.

The track record of various individual family members' behaviour persuades me of the contrary. Documented cases of this include:

Philip's comments about the physical characteristics of east Asian people's eyes, his comment about Australian aboriginals chucking spears at each other, the notorious image of his wife's mother teaching her two daughters to perform a Nazi salute, Michael of Kent's habit of naming animals after famous black women, telling a bunch of African-American fellow diners to go back to the colonies and wearing a racist brooch to meet the first bi-racial woman to marry into that family, then there's Harry with his nasty four-letter racial epithet caught for all to see on camera, much less the 'fancy dress' costume he paraded around in complete with swastika.

Yah right, of course they are in no way racist

I think they are more likely trying to distract from the Andrew problem.

You’re funny MargaretFaffter