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Insulate Britain - a bunch of loonies or rightful cause?

207 replies

EerieSilence · 13/10/2021 10:53

I'm watching the videos with Insulate Britain people blocking the motorists, people driving their children to school, hospitals or simply going to work.
I don't get the cause and the way they chose. I'm a leftist myself and participated at demonstrations but this, I really don't understand.
How is blocking normal people doing their normal business going to achieve anything?
If it happened to me, I would be pissed off and wouldn't care one iota about the cause. Why don't they protest in front of Boris's expensive nursery, blocking ways to Queen's residences and parliament but instead target people who didn't cause the problem?

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 13/10/2021 11:53

Their time could be better spent insulating actual homes instead of disruptive actions against the normal public

That's not as much fun as causing a ruck though, and doesn't offer the chance to smirk into the TV cameras or - in the absence of any real thought - to scream silly soundbites

Though I'm not keen on it, bring on the winter ... funny how we see little of them when the weather's poor (or does it all somehow stop being an "emeregency" then?)

Orangejuicemarathoner · 13/10/2021 11:55

Heroes

They are risking everything, an sacrificing such a lot

And it is becoming VERY effective. They are not out to get your vote!

In 100 years time, there will be statues in their honour

Orangejuicemarathoner · 13/10/2021 11:57

Why don't they protest in front of Boris's expensive nursery, blocking ways to Queen's residences and parliament but instead target people who didn't cause the problem?

you probably missed it as it wasn't widely reported, but Downing street was completely blocked off by environmental protesters two days ago.

clarkkentsglasses · 13/10/2021 11:58

@Orangejuicemarathoner

Heroes

They are risking everything, an sacrificing such a lot

And it is becoming VERY effective. They are not out to get your vote!

In 100 years time, there will be statues in their honour

Hmm
TableFlowerss · 13/10/2021 11:58

I think their cause is brought out of genuine concern and I can’t be angry at them for that. Being ignorant and pretending global warming isn’t an issue is destructive.

Though I admire their cause, they are going about it the wrong way. I don’t agree with their tactics at all and I think they should all be arrested. They should aim their anger at larger companies and instead of causing chaos for the average jo.

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 13/10/2021 11:58

morons - absolute morons- dangerous idiots!
When your answer to everything is "the world is coming to an end so anything we do is not that bad by comparison" there is no hope to reason. (much like the "nothing is worse than death" covid brigade)

TableFlowerss · 13/10/2021 11:59

@Orangejuicemarathoner

Heroes

They are risking everything, an sacrificing such a lot

And it is becoming VERY effective. They are not out to get your vote!

In 100 years time, there will be statues in their honour

Would you still not object if your child was chocking and the ambulance couldn’t get to them?…
Watchingyou2sleezes · 13/10/2021 12:00

@MephistophelesApprentice

They're giving the wretched Tories the perfect excuse to reduce avenues for legitimate protest.

Whatever their purported motivations, that alone is unforgivable.

To the point that it wouldn't be unreasonable to put forward that these idiots have been wound up like clockwork by provocateurs. The timing of this has all been very convenient.
BlackberrySky · 13/10/2021 12:02

They are a bunch of attention seeking hypocrites who think nothing of vandalising roads and risking people's lives by stepping out into moving traffic. Their leader couldn't even articulate himself long enough to finish an interview with Richard Madeley (who let's face it, is hardly Jeremy Paxman).

Watchingyou2sleezes · 13/10/2021 12:04

@Orangejuicemarathoner

Heroes

They are risking everything, an sacrificing such a lot

And it is becoming VERY effective. They are not out to get your vote!

In 100 years time, there will be statues in their honour

There really won't.

In 10 years time when all is still much of a muchness I wonder how many of you will feel, of course then it will all be "we've slowed it down" "it's 10 years from now" blah blah.

The endemic politicisation of climate science for over 25 years has been a disgrace.

todaysdilemma · 13/10/2021 12:04

@Orangejuicemarathoner

Heroes

They are risking everything, an sacrificing such a lot

And it is becoming VERY effective. They are not out to get your vote!

In 100 years time, there will be statues in their honour

Effective, how exactly? Didn't Yougov just publish that only 16% of the British public had either a “very favourable” or “somewhat favourable” opinion of the protesters, while 53% had either a “somewhat unfavourable” or “very unfavourable” opinion of them.

Given the Govt has also given police powers to arrest them, and publically written them off, not sure this has been in any way 'effective'.

LagunaBubbles · 13/10/2021 12:05

@Orangejuicemarathoner

Heroes

For stopping sick people getting to hospital?

VladmirsPoutine · 13/10/2021 12:06

I think it's all going to get to a head where a motorist just sees red and drives straight through them. I've seen footage of motorists literally dragging them off the road. I agree that in decades from now they will be celebrated in some way. I don't agree with them but all change came about like this.

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 13/10/2021 12:09

I wonder if there was a poll as to whether the public would like their tax to help insulate houses- I dont think the answer would be yes. I'd rather the government stepped in and solved the cladding scandal first

Iquitit · 13/10/2021 12:13

@Orangejuicemarathoner

Heroes

They are risking everything, an sacrificing such a lot

And it is becoming VERY effective. They are not out to get your vote!

In 100 years time, there will be statues in their honour

What exactly are they risking and sacrificing?

And I suppose the people who've suffered health-wise, without their consent, will just be collateral damage for 'the cause'?

Heroes they most certainly are not.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 13/10/2021 12:13

I don’t think they are anything like The Suffragettes.

They wouldn’t have stopped kids going to school or prevented ambulances. They mainly targeted politicians.

todaysdilemma · 13/10/2021 12:13

@OnlyFoolsnMothers

I wonder if there was a poll as to whether the public would like their tax to help insulate houses- I dont think the answer would be yes. I'd rather the government stepped in and solved the cladding scandal first
Yes, this!

The complete difference in how the cladding scandal is being challenged. Peaceful protest in Parliament, loads of lobbying through social media, media and petitions, and residents groups with local MPs, Govt, house builders and managing agents. And that has led to this being debated in Parliament, actual change to some regulations and review of others. It is still not done by a long shot (and frustratingly slow progress) but I'd like to think this kind of effort has yielded more results than blocking the motorway would have.

Larryyourwaiter · 13/10/2021 12:13

It’s misdirection though. Most of the worlds pollution is coming from places like China.
Obviously excessive car usage ruins your local environment/health.
Most of the people I know who do the most environmental campaigning drive a huge amount themselves.

EdgeOfTheSky · 13/10/2021 12:14

I have no doubt that insulating our homes (and other buildings) is incredibly important.

Unfortunately this idiotic lot have done nothing to actually spread awareness or public education in the issue, and everything to piss people off and probably set back the cause of all climate change campaigning.

Clutterbugsmum · 13/10/2021 12:16

They're a bunch of bloody hypocrites.

I think we all know and agree that we need to get climate changes at least under control but this is not the way to go about it.

Unfortunately they are going to be injured or worse because they are incapable of seeing beyond their views.

maddening · 13/10/2021 12:17

I would think moving to full green energy would be the main target.

I Don't think that their approach is the best way of garnering support for their campaign, which ultimately is a good one, whilst not being the biggest impact environmentally either locally nor globally.

Cornettoninja · 13/10/2021 12:18

I could be wrong but didn’t the government miss its own targets to insulate homes? At least there’s one group out there willing to hold them to account with tangible action.

Protests, by their nature, aim to cause disruption of some sort. If there is a passionate belief in their cause then how else do they get attention if other avenues are exhausted?

It’s awful that ambulances have been caught up in this but personally I’m questioning why people feel the need to glue themselves to roads to get something as simple as home insulation on the agenda. That line leads me back to the government. Seems like there’s a fairly simple solution that they’ve already committed to so just need put it into action and keep their promises. 🤷‍♀️

ABCeasyasdohrayme · 13/10/2021 12:19

@Orangejuicemarathoner

Heroes

They are risking everything, an sacrificing such a lot

And it is becoming VERY effective. They are not out to get your vote!

In 100 years time, there will be statues in their honour

You're part of them aren't you? Posting from a road somewhere smug in the knowledge you're preventing a kid from getting to their chemo.

They aren't heroes, half of them haven't got insulation themselves.

They are bell ends.

LittleMysSister · 13/10/2021 12:20

@Orangejuicemarathoner

Heroes

They are risking everything, an sacrificing such a lot

And it is becoming VERY effective. They are not out to get your vote!

In 100 years time, there will be statues in their honour

But without widespread support behind them there is no pressure for the government to act.
TravelLost · 13/10/2021 12:22

What do you propose they do instead?

Atm we have a government thst doesn’t give a shit. People don’t seem to be conscious of the situation.

So I’m wondering what people think will have an impact instead.