Insulate Britain racist?

[Tealightsandd]

They're attacking London only (to an extent the wider south east but the assault is focused on London).

Their actions are hurting the most diverse city in the UK.

They didn't take their 'protest' to the power. Not a peep from them outside the Conservative Party conference in Manchester (yes, I know relatively diverse city but not so much as London). Nor anything in Brighton when Labour had their conference.

They are solely concerned with attacking the city where around 40% of the population come from abroad - including many vulnerable migrants.

Yes - inequality is more extreme in London. Precisely because the levels of wealth are way beyond what you find in other UK cities. So you could just as easily construct an argument that the protestors are targeting the uniquely rich Londoners.

Of course, they aren’t. They’re targeting the capital city, which has more of just about everything. Diversity, inequality, major institutions, tourists, foreign investment - everything.

And you say the rich are living in the countryside. So why the intense concern that the protestors aren’t targeting Manchester?

Your arguments aren’t coherent.

I'll ask for the title to be changed to classist, if people think that is more appropriate?

Maybe some are maybe they are not

I agree they should have targeted the Tory party conference

Nothing in their actions have shown them to be racist. A bunch of self absorbed selfish pricks yes absolutely

Oh dear Op, can't you start a thread about windfall apples or something that actually makes any sense?

@Tealightsandd

As this thread has demonstrated, the anti Londoner bigotry (and ignorance) is strong.

Nobody cares when Londoners get attacked. Insulate Britain would get more publicity if they attacked somewhere people cared about.

Yes, that's why it's been all over the news. Because no one cares.....

The fact that it's received coverage on national news and people hundreds of miles away are aware of what's happening show that it's worked.

You may not like that they chose London for their protests. But you can't say it's not effective at getting media coverage. It's been highly effective.

Plenty of people care about Londoners, OP.

IB wouldn't be protesting there otherwise. If it didn't make the front pages, if people ignored it, if no one was fussed, they'd go somewhere else.

You're not making logical sense. Why would people come from across the country, as you point out, to protest in a place no one gave a toss about?

(I am not saying their protests are effective; I think they're counterproductive. But that's because they are disruptive and because they are generating tonnes of (terrible) publicity. Because people care about London.)

And you say the rich are living in the countryside. So why the intense concern that the protestors aren’t targeting Manchester?

A poster asked where they live. Wrt Manchester, it's in response to posters claiming Insulate Britain want maximum publicity and taking their message to the power. A Party conference would have been the place to do that. Oh, and to the posters banging on about the media. Some of it is now based in Manchester.

@Tealightsandd

I'll ask for the title to be changed to classist, if people think that is more appropriate?

But it isn't about classism either

It's not as if anybody cares about Londoners (look at the anti Londoner bigotry in this thread alone) My parents are from Lambeth and Peckham (the roughest bits). My mum and my siblings are the only members of our family who live outside of London. I spent half my childhood there, I go back every chance I get and I think it’s the best city in the world. I still think your argument is laughable.

Having asked my question, I've taken on board replies and slightly revised my opinion. It doesn't change the fact that a group of privileged white middle class people are causing disruption and distress to huge numbers of non white and/or non privileged people (whatever their colour). No more than they’re causing to middle class white people. Why are you refusing to see that?

@Tealightsandd

Why ask if you’re not going to listen?

But I have listened. I took on board comments. I still believe there is some (possibly unconscious) racism in their actions, but I'm now leaning towards the description a pp suggested - that they are common garden cunts.

Your posts are increasingly becoming more bizarre as I read through them. The only thing you have wrote that made sense was the last sentence in the quote above.

Because people care about London

Do they? Not on this thread. Or the many others chockablock full of anti London bigotry.

Thinking about it though. I've just realised I'm giving them publicity with this thread... I'd better shut up! (Delighting many on here, I know).

I've taken on board the comments.

If anything they should have caused chaos say at Parliament square / 10 Downing street and those areas - what they did was piss off people who just needed to get to work whether that was a carer for the elderly or an investment banker driving in to the city to work that morning.

No OP is just, like London's mayor, sick of London being attacked.

I appreciate your frustration, I cannot imagine how difficult it must be to constantly have your home and day to day life interrupted by what can only be described as ejits.

I don't think it has anything to do with London's diversification, but instead the fact it is the capital of the country (arguably the UK's most influential city) and is the home of the country's political parties.

London is attacked because it is London, a sit in on London's high streets will inconvenience far more figureheads than in Manchester or Liverpool.

In fact, as a Northerner I would argue it's because London is so important that it saturates the papers so often. This is nothing to do with race/class/creed and all to do with the fact that when protests occur they do it in the capital where they know it will make the news.

The fact they don't do it in parliament or on the main roads is that it would be far easier for them to be removed on account of legal disruption and, quite simply, they're cowards who just love the drama.

The poor woman left paralysed because she couldn't reach hospital was both middle class and white. They care little about the implications of their actions and who it inconveniences and more to do with banging their drum for five minutes of fame.

They picked London because it makes the news. Nobody cares if they block the A90 in Aberdeen.

They picked London because it is easy to get to.

I might have said there was an issue I’d they were picking say, Tower Hamlets. But whether they go to the M25 or the A5103, it wouldn’t be those in power who would be inconvenienced, it would be the public.

Thank you @Yourstupidityexhaustsme

I did let my frustration get the better off me (which is never a good idea).

I think you're summed it up well.

Separate from Insulate Britain, I'm with Sadiq Khan in being fed up of people slagging off (his words) London.

London makes the news. They can't do around parliament due to the terror act they'd get removed swiftly, so they are targeting soft spots of London.

I can imagine in my area the locals would also take it in to their own hands. Working class cities haven't time for this.

London is a city of wealth, so they are targeting the wealthy in their minds.

It's not many many of millions live in poverty and are not affluent in London but they can't think outside of the box.

They can't do around parliament due to the terror act they'd get removed swiftly, so they are targeting soft spots of London.

This is also an issue. Risk Parliament, removed immediately, block a major route, we’ll get round to moving you eventually.

For goodness sake, not everyone is racist. You're clutching at straws calling them racist.

It's not affecting London as much as it's affecting the (predominantly white, middle class) Home Counties. You're barking up the wrong tree, OP.

How do you think those "CEOs living in the shires" get to work each day? You realise a massive portion are probably driving on the M25 right? They're not hitting inner city London, they're hitting commuter routes.

I wondered this. I have no idea, but I would have thought the M25 has more BMWs than battered Ford Fiestas on it.

I rarely see much, if anything, for example, about the very serious public health housing and homelessness emergency in London.

And how often do you see anything about the same problem in Bristol? Or, the public health issue that’s been happening in Glasgow for the past few years?

Half of the media are in Manchester now anyway.

Given it is the BBC’s base…..

@mustlovegin

They're a bunch of middle class privileged white people

Your posts come across as very racist indeed OP

Typical of you

it’s neither racist nor classist - it’s not any kind of «-ist» because it’s not discriminatory. they are not picking any location to disrupt because of the class or race of the people there. the only person mentioning any group’s class or race and using it to beat them with is in fact the OP. baffling this thread.

In other news I think they’re doing a good job of getting in the headlines and causing disruption. The entire system urgently needs disrupting.