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Insulate Britain racist?

148 replies

Tealightsandd · 08/10/2021 17:31

They're attacking London only (to an extent the wider south east but the assault is focused on London).

Their actions are hurting the most diverse city in the UK.

They didn't take their 'protest' to the power. Not a peep from them outside the Conservative Party conference in Manchester (yes, I know relatively diverse city but not so much as London). Nor anything in Brighton when Labour had their conference.

They are solely concerned with attacking the city where around 40% of the population come from abroad - including many vulnerable migrants.

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lioncitygirl · 08/10/2021 17:58

What?!?! Surely it’s because london is the capital?! 🤣 come on Op. that’s reaching.

VillanellesOrangeCoat · 08/10/2021 17:58

FFS

cricketmum84 · 08/10/2021 18:01

Is there a MNHQ report button for "quite honestly a bit mad"?

ReeseWitherfork · 08/10/2021 18:02

@VillanellesOrangeCoat

FFS
Is this the coat with the big collar and bow??
Tealightsandd · 08/10/2021 18:02

@lioncitygirl

What?!?! Surely it’s because london is the capital?! 🤣 come on Op. that’s reaching.
The capital. So what? The government has been quite clear that it doesn't care about London. And as can be seen on this thread, the public is brimming with anti Londoner bigotry, so again - how does attacking Londoners help the Insulate Britain 'cause'?

How does attacking Londoners persuade the majority non Londoner government to do anything about their supposed 'cause'?

And anyway, apparently - accordingly to people on the fuel crisis threads - being the capital means nothing.

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MintJulia · 08/10/2021 18:05

No, that's not logical.

They are targeting the financial, commercial and political capital. It has nothing to do with race.

Wazzzzzzzup · 08/10/2021 18:07

Am I getting it right that you are suggesting that their actions are not for environment or whatnot, but they are bunch of racists who targetted london because it has high diversity?

Tealightsandd · 08/10/2021 18:07

Londoner, Sadiq Khan, (its mayor) has noted (and complained to deaf ears) the anti London attitudes. His words - 'stop slagging off London'. I'm not saying anything that hasn't already been highlighted.

So it's not exactly a secret. Insulate Britain will be aware. They must know that attacking London won't help their 'cause' because nobody cares. So the only conclusion is that they don't care about their 'cause' and instead simply want to attack Londoners.

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Tealightsandd · 08/10/2021 18:09

@Wazzzzzzzup

Am I getting it right that you are suggesting that their actions are not for environment or whatnot, but they are bunch of racists who targetted london because it has high diversity?
Well why do you think they're attacking Londoners?

The 'power' referred to - government, finance, etc. They don't live full-time or permanently in London. They won't be affected and they don't care. And Insulate Britain knows that.

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Wazzzzzzzup · 08/10/2021 18:11

Wow.
There is now really increasing number of threads lately which feel like watching breakdown live.

Honestly, you ok?

Griefmonster · 08/10/2021 18:12

I can see the logic @Tealightsandd. A bit obtuse! but I think I can see what you're getting at. I could perhaps see it as "indirect discrimination" rather than intentionally racist.

FourTeaFallOut · 08/10/2021 18:13

God, I'll get on board with just about any hate dished out for the Insulate Britain muppets, but that is a s t r e t c h.

Pazuzu · 08/10/2021 18:13

Should we start a sweep as to which paper this thread will get referenced in? 🤣

TheAverageUser · 08/10/2021 18:13

I can't follow your logic at all.

cricketmum84 · 08/10/2021 18:13

And as can be seen on this thread, the public is brimming with anti Londoner bigotry,

Erm okaaaaaaay.... (backs slowly away from crazy insulate Britain thread person)

TSSDNCOP · 08/10/2021 18:14

Cunts yes, racists no (although I don't actually know any of them so they could be).

Tealightsandd · 08/10/2021 18:15

@MintJulia

No, that's not logical.

They are targeting the financial, commercial and political capital. It has nothing to do with race.

Posters on the fuel crisis threads repeatedly insisted that London was nothing special and 'just another part of the UK'.

That is that general public attitude.

So why is Insulate Britain - a privileged group - attacking a very diverse city with huge amounts of deprivation.

It's worth noting that London has been hit harder economically by Covid than anywhere else in the UK. Its youth unemployment is high - and it is these disadvantaged and diverse youths who will be harmed by the privileged Insulate Britain, not government or finance chiefs (who live in the shires).

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FourTeaFallOut · 08/10/2021 18:16

So why is Insulate Britain - a privileged group - attacking a very diverse city with huge amounts of deprivation

Because if they did it anywhere else it'd barely make the news.

cricketmum84 · 08/10/2021 18:18

You are just contradicting yourself and not making a stable argument.

How are the "unemployed and diverse" youths of inner city London going to be affected by the M25 being closed at rush hour????

You are making no sense.

I am the first to curse bloody Insulate Britain but this is just a bit mental.

Tealightsandd · 08/10/2021 18:18

@TSSDNCOP

Cunts yes, racists no (although I don't actually know any of them so they could be).
Yes actually fair enough. You're probably right.

Perhaps it is more accurate to say that their actions are (possibly inadvertently?) indirect and systemic racism, rather than intentional.

Ok so, not overt racists. Anti Londoner cunts, yes. And just cunts full stop.

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Nancydrawn · 08/10/2021 18:19

I'd guess, actually, that many members of Insulate Britain live in London or nearby.

I think they're a bunch of counter-productive dickheads.

That said, I don't think that they're being racist by targeting London. I suppose if they were only going into historically minority neighborhoods and targeting those specifically, you could make the claim, but I don't think blocking the M25 (which frankly disrupts some very white suburbs more heavily than London itself) counts as direct racist action.

You're free to dislike them, but I'd do it on more logical grounds.

Lockheart · 08/10/2021 18:20

Careful, you'll do yourself an injury reaching like that.

TSSDNCOP · 08/10/2021 18:20

Glue yourself to 4 points of the M25, max disruption. V newsworthy.

Glue yourself to the road in London, major logjam. V newsworthy.

Glue yourself to the pavement outside the Tory Conference and they'd have just been stepped over and had artisan latte spilled over them. Not newsworthy.

OppsUpsSide · 08/10/2021 18:23

How long did it take you to come up with that theory? 🤣

Tealightsandd · 08/10/2021 18:25

How are the "unemployed and diverse" youths of inner city London going to be affected by the M25 being closed at rush hour????

Economic attacks on London - damaging it's fragile recovery (officially predicted to be slower than the rest of the UK) will impact on the disadvantaged. Not on government or finance CEOs. Insulate Britain will know this.

Delaying or stopping people in low paid jobs getting to work (necessary to pay rent and bills and feed their families).

Preventing people getting to job interviews.

Disrupting travel to hospital, attending to carer responsibilities, journey to and from school (student's and teachers alike).

Disrupting the journeys of doctors, nurses, carers, social workers, support workers, youth workers, probation officers, etc.

Those with powe to implement or change policy aren't affected by the Insulate mob's attack on London.

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