Insulate Britain racist?

[Tealightsandd]

They're attacking London only (to an extent the wider south east but the assault is focused on London).

Their actions are hurting the most diverse city in the UK.

They didn't take their 'protest' to the power. Not a peep from them outside the Conservative Party conference in Manchester (yes, I know relatively diverse city but not so much as London). Nor anything in Brighton when Labour had their conference.

They are solely concerned with attacking the city where around 40% of the population come from abroad - including many vulnerable migrants.

Um, no, I don't think they'd get more attention for blocking a road in deepest Gloucestershire than blocking the M25.

They would if they blocked all the major routes in or out including to the hospital. Day after day.

And they most certainly would if they had done it in Brighton or Manchester for the Party conferences.

@Tealightsandd

You can't pick and choose racism. Their actions - where they attack, and who it most harms - speak volumes.

climate change disproportionately affects people of colour, poorer people and the global south -- by your argument, anyone NOT doing everything they can to effect change (which is what IB see themselves as doing) is even more racist than IB...

I find the characterisation of Londoners as uniquely diverse and deprived weirdly ignorant. I don’t know what you think Birmingham, Leeds or Manchester are like, op, but they all have deprivation. Manchester had had a terrible homelessness problem over recent years, for example. What makes London different to pretty much every other UK city isn’t so much poverty as wealth. There are wealthy people everywhere, of course, but I do not experience in-your-face wealth in the midlands and north as when I visit London. It’s at another level.

And when you say those in power in this country aren’t in London, where do you think they all are? Driving into Liverpool or Sheffield city centre so that a protest there would be truly effective? Shopping in Glasgow? That’s absurd.

Perhaps you should visit some other cities in the UK so that you can see that we don’t have the UK’s power brokers commuting and dining out amongst us. And that not everyone is white.

@Tealightsandd

It's not about affecting these in power. It's about news coverage. And that needs maximum disruption.

Then why are they targeting those the furthest away from power? Those in power don't live in London, nor do they care about it.

Guaranteed they repeatedly blocked major roads in a different city or town, they'd be more coverage. Nothing new about it in London. London is attacked all the time.

Did you bother to read the post you quoted?

However, what you do by claiming these as "Racist Actions" is dangerous to people actually affected by racist actions everyday.

I didn't claim. I asked a question. And I've taken on board comments. It's definitely a fact that their actions will be harming one of the most diverse populations in the UK.

It's definitely a fact that their actions will be harming one of the most diverse populations in the UK

So fucking what? It’s the biggest city in Britain. Of course it’s going to be proportionally more diverse. You don’t even have a point that makes sense or stands up to any scrutiny.

Wow that's um.... mad. London also has the most churches per square and the most coffee shops etc. So maybe the protestors are targeting churches and coffee. You could link them to lots of random but unrelated facts.

The reality is that the protestors are most likely based in the South East and most protests are conducted in London to hit the news cycle/media concentration in the capital.

I personally believe their tactics to be entirely counter productive. Successful protests attract support and sympathy they don't maximise aggro for ordinary people (of whatever ethnicity). But that's another thread. Peter Tatchell has been very erudite on this.

we don’t have the UK’s power brokers commuting and dining out amongst us.

No need to show off about it. Don't worry. The vampire moves on after exhausting his source. He's going to 'level up'.

And that not everyone is white

Did I claim otherwise? See my (government sourced) link upthread. London is the most diverse.

but I do not experience in-your-face wealth in the midlands and north as when I visit London. It’s at another level

As is the homelessness. The inequality in London is, as you say, more extreme. Guess who gets harmed by the Insulate mob actions? Hint, it's not the rich (who, to answer your question, live in the shires and the countryside).

And you’ve completely ignored the poster who pointed out that the other places they’ve protested in are 90%+ white, or my point that skint, unemployed youths don’t have cars to drive around London.

The reality is that the protestors are most likely based in the South East

Manchester and Scarborough are not in the South East.

Racist? In what way? 40% are minorities, 60% aren’t.

I’d say if anything they’re classist for refusing to hit the wealthier areas. I would however venture to guess they are just spineless dickheads who enjoy causing disruption to everyday life in the name of a cause but wouldn’t have the balls to do it anywhere of importance for fear the police/security at the HOP or anywhere else of note would forcibly remove them.

@Sn0tnose

And you’ve completely ignored the poster who pointed out that the other places they’ve protested in are 90%+ white, or my point that skint, unemployed youths don’t have cars to drive around London.

Not true. I've taken on board comments on this thread.

Buses use roads btw.

And skint unemployed people need, Iike everyone else, to get to doctors, hospitals, to care for relatives, get to school, job interviews. Bit of a problem when the teachers, doctors, nurses, carers, can't get to work because roads are blocked.

As this thread has demonstrated, the anti Londoner bigotry (and ignorance) is strong.

Nobody cares when Londoners get attacked. Insulate Britain would get more publicity if they attacked somewhere people cared about.

I hope to god that the op is a troll because the alternative, that there are people out there desperately looking for racism to feel aggrieved about in every single facet of life, no matter how ridiculous, is just too depressing to contemplate. Even worse, they may find an audience that agrees with them.

Lol 😂

@Yourstupidityexhaustsme

Racist? In what way? 40% are minorities, 60% aren’t.

I’d say if anything they’re classist for refusing to hit the wealthier areas. I would however venture to guess they are just spineless dickheads who enjoy causing disruption to everyday life in the name of a cause but wouldn’t have the balls to do it anywhere of importance for fear the police/security at the HOP or anywhere else of note would forcibly remove them.

I think you're right.

I suppose my title should be changed. They are classist.

Not true. I've taken on board comments on this thread And yet you continue to come out with utterly ridiculous statements that make absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Buses use roads btw I’m well aware of that, thanks. I’m asking you exactly where those unemployed and disadvantaged youths you’re talking about are likely to be going on the buses that means their journey is disproportionately effected over and above any other commuter.

Just do what you’re clearly wanting to do. Make yourself up a little placard and next time these dickheads glue themselves to a road in London, go and shout at them about how racist they are and how they hate the poor.

@Tealightsandd

As this thread has demonstrated, the anti Londoner bigotry (and ignorance) is strong.

Nobody cares when Londoners get attacked. Insulate Britain would get more publicity if they attacked somewhere people cared about.

Except people do care. THAT’S WHY IT’S ALL OVER THE NEWS!!!!

Are you exceptionally dim, or just fucking with us?

@Notthemessiah

I hope to god that the op is a troll because the alternative, that there are people out there desperately looking for racism to feel aggrieved about in every single facet of life, no matter how ridiculous, is just too depressing to contemplate. Even worse, they may find an audience that agrees with them.

Really quite this.

I had a colleague this week complaining that her son had his first experience of racism because a child is his class mispronounces his name. The child in question is three.

Sometimes situations really are skin deep and don't have to have an ulterior motive.

They're a bunch of middle class privileged white people

Your posts come across as very racist indeed OP

Correlation isn’t causation.

@Notthemessiah

I hope to god that the op is a troll because the alternative, that there are people out there desperately looking for racism to feel aggrieved about in every single facet of life, no matter how ridiculous, is just too depressing to contemplate. Even worse, they may find an audience that agrees with them.

No OP is just, like London's mayor, sick of London being attacked.

I asked a question. It's not unreasonable to wonder why the most diverse city in the UK is being targeted. I mean it's a bit strange. It's not as if anybody cares about Londoners (look at the anti Londoner bigotry in this thread alone).

Having asked my question, I've taken on board replies and slightly revised my opinion. It doesn't change the fact that a group of privileged white middle class people are causing disruption and distress to huge numbers of non white and/or non privileged people (whatever their colour).

But you're linking two things together that are totally unrelated. London also has more multi-millionaires than any other uk city, so maybe by your logic they're targeting the ultra-rich. It also has more beefeaters than any other city, maybe it's all a ploy to piss them off.

Don't you think it's more likely that it was a case of 'where do you think we should protest?' 'London is very big and everyone has heard of it. We can be extremely annoying there. Let's do that.'