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Extinction Rebellion co-founder says he would block an ambulance carrying a dying patient

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sst1234 · 05/10/2021 07:10

How can anyone support this bunch of nasty idiots who are willing to commit what can only be described as murder. How can anyone justify this? Imagine how you would feel it was one of you family members in that ambulance, this man would not hesitate to cause their death.

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PlanDeRaccordement · 06/10/2021 14:35

@BashfulClam

If I was in an ambulance with a critically ill family member I would move him. He’d be too busy collecting his teeth to worry about blocking the way. Not the best way to handle it but it’s the one thing that would work.
Me too. If it’s morally ok to risk a fine and imprisonment by criminal damage to a motorway and blockading it, then it should be morally ok to risk a fine and imprisonment by common assault on the criminals doing the road blockade. If they don’t have to respect and follow the law, why should I? And at least I could point to an actual life saved, not some hypothetical “future generations” excuse.
skodadoda · 06/10/2021 18:03

Have a look at some of the facts

ccpi.org/

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 06/10/2021 20:13

I completely agree @PlanDeRaccordement and @BashfulClam

Bythemillpond · 07/10/2021 10:40

LaetitiaASD

@LemonTT

Nonsense. By "legitimate protest" you simply mean sending emails and anything else that can be completely ignored

All this has been known for decades - anyone with any intelligence knows it all, and yet nothing is done... but if we just ask nicely like Thunberg has been for years (and others for decades before her) then Boris will suddenly do something

But something was done.
The fact that very few took the opportunity up is not the governments fault.

It seems IB or XR choices to help the planet are more about getting themselves on tv, and being sanctimonious pricks shouting a lot about the greater good and protesting in such a way that adds to the carbon footprint or endangers life
Rather than asking themselves what they want and looking to see if it already exists.

All this could have been done so much better if these “protests” were there to help people find ways to live a greener lifestyle and showing people that there are ways to insulate your home, put in double glazing, better quality exterior doors, solar panels etc for free that would all save them money on fuel bills

Instead they have done so much harm to the cause.
If you want people to change you have to realise that most people’s first thoughts will be “what is in it for me” “what will this cost” “will this make my life easier/cheaper”
Not I am going to sit on a motorway and block traffic or chain myself to a truck in the hope you ask me why and I can then give you a load of spiel about the planet is dying and it is all your fault.

Instead of Greta Thunberg scowling at Trump which was laughable and did nothing for her cause. Maybe if there was something that could have saved the average American money whilst being greener and being open minded at trying to connect with the head of the country which is one of the worlds leading polluters things could have been further on than they are.

Ultimately people

Joystir59 · 07/10/2021 10:42

Extinction rebellion are trying to save the planet.

Bythemillpond · 07/10/2021 10:45

Joystir59

Extinction rebellion are trying to save the planet

By doing what exactly

Sitting in the middle of Oxford Street blocking tube station entrances and exits, standing on top of tube trains and leaving a massive clear up job just caused more people to jump in taxis and Ubers to get around them which caused more harm than good.

Xenia · 07/10/2021 10:55

They are trying to save humans, not the planet. Volcanic matter, rocks, gases and a good few animals do not really care if humans die out.

Yummymummy2020 · 07/10/2021 10:59

It might not be a popular opinion but I think these people are absolute twits. If it was their family member dying they would be the first to complain. There are just some things decent humans won’t do and blocking an ambulance is one of them in my opinion.

knittingaddict · 07/10/2021 11:12

On the contrary Yummymummy2020, I think it's a very popular opinion. Grin

Reallyimeanreally2022 · 07/10/2021 11:16

@Yummymummy2020

It might not be a popular opinion but I think these people are absolute twits. If it was their family member dying they would be the first to complain. There are just some things decent humans won’t do and blocking an ambulance is one of them in my opinion.
Have you read the thread?? Confused
LaetitiaASD · 07/10/2021 12:40

PlanDeRaccordement SAID - Me too. If it’s morally ok to risk a fine and imprisonment by criminal damage to a motorway and blockading it, then it should be morally ok to risk a fine and imprisonment by common assault on the criminals doing the road blockade. If they don’t have to respect and follow the law, why should I? And at least I could point to an actual life saved, not some hypothetical “future generations” excuse.

Can you not see the fundemental difference between -

Breaking the law in order to save humanity, but doing it in a way that harms no-one intentionally
and
Breaking the law because you don;t want to be mildly inconvenienced by someone trying to save humanity, and doing so in a way delibereately designed to cause harm to another?

Your right to stick your head in the sand is greater than their right to try to actually do something?

LaetitiaASD · 07/10/2021 12:42

@Yummymummy2020

It might not be a popular opinion but I think these people are absolute twits. If it was their family member dying they would be the first to complain. There are just some things decent humans won’t do and blocking an ambulance is one of them in my opinion.
You have no idea whether that is true or not. It seems to me that people who won't think saving the planet is worth mild inconvenience are totally selfish - those people wouldn't think twice about saving the life of their 85 year old mum rather than save the lives of the entire population of Bangladesh.

It seems to me that someone who is willing to risk assault and arrest and being run over to try to save the planet is likely to be considerably less selfish than you

BelleOfTheProvince · 07/10/2021 12:54

Don't be so ridiculous. Humans care more for their families than random strangers. That's not selfish. That's written into our DNA. If you wouldn't save your own mother you are a sociopath.

And these actions, as repeatedly stated are not saving the planet. People who are comfortably well off enough to a)sit in the road instead of working b)get arrested and have no negative results are the height of fucking selfish harming those who don't have the luxury to do so.

LaetitiaASD · 07/10/2021 13:38

@BelleOfTheProvince

Don't be so ridiculous. Humans care more for their families than random strangers. That's not selfish. That's written into our DNA. If you wouldn't save your own mother you are a sociopath.

And these actions, as repeatedly stated are not saving the planet. People who are comfortably well off enough to a)sit in the road instead of working b)get arrested and have no negative results are the height of fucking selfish harming those who don't have the luxury to do so.

Belle - it is normal and natural to prioritise yourself and your loved ones, but it's still selfish. Selfishness is written into the entirety of animal life and evolution. That you are selfish, just like me, is nothing to be ashamed of.

What is to be ashamed of is that you are so selfish and narrow-minded that you can't conceive that some people are less selfish than you.

BelleOfTheProvince · 07/10/2021 13:45

Bollocks, I absolutely know there are people less selfish than me out there obviously.

But these are definitely not those people.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 07/10/2021 14:44

To right I’d save my mother over a bunch of people I don’t know and will never meet and I’m definitely not ashamed of that!

Oh and the twats are not ‘mildly inconveniencing’ anyone, they are risking peoples lives. Now I don’t particularly care if they are run over or assaulted, I care more about the people who can’t get to hospital to see a loved one or to have treatment, or get to the job that keeps a roof over their head.

Bythemillpond · 09/10/2021 02:34

LaetitiaASD

It seems to me that someone who is willing to risk assault and arrest and being run over to try to save the planet is likely to be considerably less selfish than you

Please tell me why sitting in the middle of a road stopping traffic, having cars at a stand still with their engines still running for several minutes saving the planet. Isn’t that doing the exact opposite

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