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What happens to W**** C******'s family?

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MerryDeath · 02/10/2021 10:40

do families of notorious and vile pieces of filth receive protection, new identities etc or are they left to fend for themselves?

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LukeEvansWife · 02/10/2021 19:30

@WoodchipNightmares

I only hope that, when she initiates divorce proceedings, the judge gives her all the marital assets.

He's never getting out of prison; he doesn't need half of the house.

It doesn't work like that. Doesn't matter what a spouse has done, they are still entitled to a fair share of the matrimonial assets
mummylondon16 · 02/10/2021 22:05

@jinxyminxy

Out of interest, why do you think the victims would need access to a separate legal advocate in a criminal case? Criminal cases are prosecuted and paid for by the Crown. I agree that the victims and families of the convicted should have access to emotional/psychological/practical support. I can't see why they would need additional legal representation though.
the CPS represent the state in court and at times they can make decisions that are in contravention to the victims best interests. For example in the Jane Clough case her murderer was on bail for rape. When he murdered her and pled guilty the rape was allowed to fall away much to the disgust of her family. i could go on and on about the failures of police and CPS to do the best by the victim, they are very often led by expedience and cost. they are bound by the court/system to disclose conversations they have with the victim. they do not represent them and at times can’t even meet them to explain things. Having worked with victims going through serious criminal proceedings such as rape and domestic abuse, I had the job of explaining the legal ins and outs to them and trying to help prepare them for the trial. at times I saw police, experts and lawyers act in direct contravention to what was best for the victims, I had no power to over ride this as I was an advocate but did not have an official role. I only knew what the victim needed to know because I’m trained in law most of my colleagues were not. I have sat in meetings with police, probation, crown prosecutors & the defendant/criminal was always the focus. Kier Stamer did a great speech years ago about victims rights it’s on you tube. Look it up
WomanStanleyWoman · 02/10/2021 23:27

@MiddlesexGirl

It also stops people from finding the thread by searching his name.
Not creating the thread at all would achieve the same thing; probably more effectively. Why would you create a thread you didn’t want people to find?
LukeEvansWife · 02/10/2021 23:32

And it's in active and has been all day

DeborahAnnabel · 03/10/2021 00:00

I opened the thread to find out what w*c* was. I thought it was wanker cunts and I was wonder who the OO was referring as wanker cunts.

Feel sad for his family if I stop to think about it. Their lives have also been shattered. That said, I save most of my sadness for the family of Sarah Everard.

WoodchipNightmares · 03/10/2021 12:33

It doesn't work like that. Doesn't matter what a spouse has done, they are still entitled to a fair share of the matrimonial assets

I tend to think that what's "fair" in a case involving a whole life tariff is different to someone who will be out in a few years.

He won't need half of the matrimonial assets because he won't be getting out. They should award the wife the whole lot in lieu of the maintenance he also won't be paying, as he would in the case of a normal divorce.

LukeEvansWife · 03/10/2021 15:20

That would be for a family judge to decide in conjunction with the law.

Matrimonial law is separate from criminal law.

Financial remedy is based on case law so it will cost a lot of money to sort out potentially. Unless they are minted, the lawyers will get most of it.

LukeEvansWife · 03/10/2021 15:22

I tend to think that what's "fair" in a case involving a whole life tariff is different to someone who will be out in a few years.

Is that a personal or legal opinion? Because it's a fascinating subject

WoodchipNightmares · 03/10/2021 15:43

@LukeEvansWife

I tend to think that what's "fair" in a case involving a whole life tariff is different to someone who will be out in a few years.

Is that a personal or legal opinion? Because it's a fascinating subject

Solely a personal opinion.

I'm sure someone will be along to argue the morality of it all, but even if he did receive half of everything - what's he actually going to do with it when he's inside and not ever getting out?

Though I'm aware prisoners can spend money in prison on things they need in there (deodorant, mars bars etc) I've just checked and that's set at a maximum of £30pw.

He's 49 now; assuming he makes it to the average life expectancy (81) then that's 32 years. At £30pw, that's £49,920 (any increases in allowances / living longer hasn't been factored in - though I doubt a notorious murderer who's an ex cop is going to see 85).

If he receives more than that in a divorce settlement then there's nothing he can physically do with it anyway.

FangsForTheMemory · 03/10/2021 15:46

I do wonder what life was like for his family before he was arrested.

Ellmau · 03/10/2021 15:50

what's he actually going to do with it when he's inside and not ever getting out?

Spend it on lawyers appealing his sentence?

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