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What happens to W**** C******'s family?

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MerryDeath · 02/10/2021 10:40

do families of notorious and vile pieces of filth receive protection, new identities etc or are they left to fend for themselves?

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GianaSister · 02/10/2021 11:02

@AllThatFancyPaintsAsFair
The article I read said she was, but it was reported as breaking news so maybe it was rushed and incorrect. I didn’t say in my post that she was definitely there to support, I questioned whether she was, and couldn’t believe she even turned up - but if it’s the case that she didn’t then it’s irrelevant

x2boys · 02/10/2021 11:04

@StaplesCorner

Just noticed a few articles online, she gave an interview (to the Mail unfortunately) in the summer saying she thought he was a monster and she never saw any signs of it previously.
That must be the hardest part, its a complex case and im sure there is more to this then is being made public but if she never had any indication and why would she lie, it must be so hard trying to understand any of this.
2020isnotbehaving · 02/10/2021 11:04

I doubt the family as whole get much support. The wife could been there so she could shout “rot in hell” from
Public gallery does not indict support.

Sparklesocks · 02/10/2021 11:05

I can’t imagine how it turns everything you knew upside down in a few moments. Violence like this causes ripples that impact the lives of so many people. I doubt they’d get new identities but would probably move and start fresh somewhere. I hope the children have a strong support system around them.

Tailendofsummer · 02/10/2021 11:11

Colin Pitchfork murdered one of his two teenage victims while his baby son slept in the car. I wonder how he coped with this knowledge growing up. So unfair.
He (the murderer) has also just been released from prison, early 60s, with a history of raping and murdering teenagers. I wonder what could possibly go wrong.

lljkk · 02/10/2021 11:12

she thought he was a monster and she never saw any signs of it previously.

(May his family move on well without him and)
Above is the only part of this story that interests me. How did he turn so suddenly into a monster or how did he hide it so long so well?

Friend got restraining order against her stbxH for domestic violence; he still gets half the assets in the divorce. Awful people don't lose all their rights. That would be barbaric if society decided that.

thepastisanothercountry · 02/10/2021 11:14

I know someone whose father murdered his mother :(

He got taken into care when he was 14, spat out by the system when he was 16 and left to fend for himself with barely any support whatsoever. Understandably, he went totally off the rails was in prison when he was 21 and finally was one of the lucky ones when prison staff referred him for help and support. He's in his 40s now and has managed to hold down a job since his mid 20s but still drinks and needs psychiatric support. Its one of the most depressing stories I've ever heard Sad

I'd be surprised if WC's family were getting much in the way of support at all but I really hope they are its simply not their fault.

Almostwelsh · 02/10/2021 11:15

She wasn’t in the court. She logged on remotely I think?

Devpatelslaughingeyes · 02/10/2021 11:15

[quote GianaSister]@AllThatFancyPaintsAsFair
The article I read said she was, but it was reported as breaking news so maybe it was rushed and incorrect. I didn’t say in my post that she was definitely there to support, I questioned whether she was, and couldn’t believe she even turned up - but if it’s the case that she didn’t then it’s irrelevant[/quote]
Elisabeth Fritzl was in court to see her father sentenced, that doesn’t mean that she was there to support him. I would imagine that she was there to see justice done and to start some form of closure.

I have no idea if Couzens wife was in court or not but she and the family will certainly be suffering. I really hope that they find support from somewhere. I have no idea how you begin to recover from the shock of finding that someone you loved and were close to is such a monster.

MargotEmin · 02/10/2021 11:16

I was involved in the trial of a rape and the defendant's wife and daughter were in the public gallery certainly not out of support, but to make sense of why their world had been turned upside down. Until then they didn't really have any means of knowing what had happened, its not like they were part of the investigation or had lawyers or anything. As far as they were concerned their husband/ father was arrested early one morning, he was remanded in custody and that was that until the trial.

Butchyrestingface · 02/10/2021 11:17

The children are under 10. I hope evil cunt doesn't attempt to assert access rights to them now he's serving his sentence. I hope they can be free of his festering presence until they're at least 18 and can make up their minds whether they want to see him.

MarshmallowSwede · 02/10/2021 11:18

Sorry.. I’m not British and I immediately thought Winston Churchill.. and then the comments about him being an asshole.. so I was a bit confused at first. I was thinking why would they think he and his family was terrible. Then it came to me.

Now I understand who you mean. Yes well they ca change their name and perhaps move to Canada or Australia or New Zealand. It would be less likely anyone would recognize them there.

Whentheydontmeanwhattheysay · 02/10/2021 11:18

I’ve been thinking, in between thinking about poor Sarah, how awful it must be for his children & his wife.
To his children he was a loving father who carried them on his shoulders, sang happy birthday to them, walked them to school ……….now they will spend the rest of their lives knowing he was an evil monster. That must seriously mess with their heads.

MarshmallowSwede · 02/10/2021 11:19

Surely him being a rapist and a murderer means having access to his children is bad for their own well-being.

PumpkinPie2016 · 02/10/2021 11:19

Sadly, I doubt there will be much support for her and the children. What he had done is evil beyond words and of course, the main victims in this are Sarah and her family.

That said, his wife and children must be going through hell. The shock of finding out that your husband/dad has done that must be awful.

Her best bet is probably to revert to using her maiden name for both herself and the children and move somewhere far away to start afresh.

Shirleyphallus · 02/10/2021 11:19

Why are people still describing murderers as “dear husbands”. If there’s any time to drop the twee little abbreviations it’s here Confused

LizzieW1969 · 02/10/2021 11:20

May his family move on well without him and)
Above is the only part of this story that interests me. How did he turn so suddenly into a monster or how did he hide it so long so well?

It certainly happens. My DM had no idea that my F was sexually abusing my DSis and me, and others. It was a real shock when we told her several years ago. She would now describe my F in similar terms, but she still insists that there were no warning signs.

But there were warning signs, he was a very controlling man. I think it’s easier to tell herself that there were none, as it eases the level of her guilt.

So maybe there were warning signs (red flags as we say on MN) but she closed her eyes to them?

RJnomore1 · 02/10/2021 11:21

I feel incredibly sorry for this woman

He’s obviously a master manipulator, I mean he’s managed to work the system and fool entire police forces. I’ve no doubt he manipulated her to the hilt.

I don’t know how you move on but I hope her and the children do, and I hope they get all the support they need to do so.

Itsbeen84yearss · 02/10/2021 11:22

Even if she was in court doesn’t mean she’s supporting him. She might feel it a duty to go. It would be better that she got the exact details of his crimes in court than through the papers.

JaffavsCookie · 02/10/2021 11:24

Appallingly he does still get half the assets if she divorces him. Happened to a friend of mine, discovered via the police knock on the door that her ex h was a paedophile and had been been grooming a kid the same age as his daughter. He still got half the house and argued from jail over furniture.

Hazel444 · 02/10/2021 11:26

Just because she logged on remotely to hear the sentencing that doesn't mean she was supporting him in any way. She probably just wanted to know as soon as possible that the piece of shit she married would not ever be darkening her or her children's doorsteps ever again.

MargotEmin · 02/10/2021 11:29

So maybe there were warning signs (red flags as we say on MN) but she closed her eyes to them?

I'm sure this wasn't your intention but this could come off as slightly victim blaming. I'd reframe it as it not being safe for these women to open their eyes, or them not being able to open their eyes as their husbands did such a number on them.

Loveshelly · 02/10/2021 11:29

@JaffavsCookie
Omg really! That’s insane
Hopefully he will just give her everything.

fekthisshiz · 02/10/2021 11:30

@GianaSister

I haven’t thought about that. I was surprised when I saw an article yesterday about how his wife was in court as his sentence was read out and could not believe he still had a wife and she was in court in support(?).
Maybe she was there for her own reasons? To see the monster put behind bars? Out of respect for Sarah?

You really don't know. I can't imagine she had a fairytale marriage with that evil man.

YukoandHiro · 02/10/2021 11:32

As others have said, it's only when it comes to trial that the details emerge - even for the families of the perpetrators. It's all secret before that. So families attend to understand exactly what they did. Doesn't mean they are in support

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