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To think this is relatively normal behaviour for children?

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user124765 · 01/10/2021 23:27

Name changed for this, and also posting here for traffic.

I have three children from my marriage that ended a few years back. They are aged 10, 8 and 5. No learning issues with the kids or anything else to note, they are (to my mind) all NT.

The issue is that DP (who is hoping to live with us very soon) seems to take constant issue with their behaviour. This evening the children were upstairs getting ready for bed and I'd asked my 8 year old to have a quick shower before he brushed his teeth etc. We've just moved in to this house in the last few days so everything is quite new and different for the kids. I turned the shower on and checked it was the correct temperature for him before I left the bathroom instructing him to wash his body and not worry about his hair for tonight.
I get downstairs and sit on the sofa next to DP and almost immediately DS shouts 'Mummy!' from upstairs. I get up and head up to see what he needs, but he can't hear my reply to hang on... I'm coming, because of the noise of the shower so continues yelling 'Mummy!' and getting increasingly louder.
Once I've sorted DS out, which takes about 3 minutes, I head back downstairs and take my place back on the sofa. Immediately DP starts having a go at me about 'letting him talk to you like shit'. His tone is quite aggressive actually and I just feel like a bit of support from him rather than a bollocking for lacking as a parent wouldn't go amiss at this stage.

It's almost constant now, whenever we're together as a 'family'. DP's need to micromanage my children and his insistence that they behave badly. I feel like I'm on tenterhooks all the time, waiting for something to kick off and I'm stuck in the middle trying to mediate the drama.
The kids are fine! They are children and full of joy and they do get excited from time to time. They sometimes push boundaries and behave badly...but isn't that normal? I feel like he's trying to turn my kids in to what he believes children should behave like, when as someone who's never had children himself he just doesn't know how kids really are!

Tonight I just lost my shit a bit and told him that I refuse to live my life walking on egg shells and I'm not going to change my parenting to suit him. I choose my children, every time. He said something like 'do you want me to fuck off then?' to which I replied that yes, him going home would probably be for the best right now. He was visibly upset and stormed out slamming the door behind him. He called me a 'fucking prick' under his breath too, which shocked me. That in itself is unforgivable to me I think. I felt sad when he'd gone but also incredibly relieved.

But now what? Do I end this? If I don't then I guess I have to keep him separate from my family, I can't risk him screwing my kids up with his controlling behaviour. Or is it me? 🤷‍♀️ Is he right that my children need pulling up on this behaviour. I just think it's normal...but who knows? Giggling in restaurants, being daft at bedtime when they've been told to settle down, shouting Mummy! over and over until you drop everything and go running. Isn't this all normal?

OP posts:
nimbuscloud · 03/10/2021 20:35

She has. But he was still able to message her 10 year old child. Why did he even have the child’s contact details.

winterchills · 03/10/2021 20:38

Get rid he sounds awful 😡

EspressoDoubleShot · 03/10/2021 20:39

@nimbuscloud

She has. But he was still able to message her 10 year old child. Why did he even have the child’s contact details.
I imagine being the partner he picked the kids up from clubs, had their number to maintain contact. As in call me when the sleepover ends I’ll come get you. Most 10yo have phones and their parents/ significant adults will have the details. Until a few day ago he was the mum partner and very much in their lives
bemusedmoose · 03/10/2021 20:39

I have the tshirt for this one and my advice is get the heck out of the relationship now! It's a huge red flag, a mere glimpse of the nightmare to come. He wont improve and if he thinks that is unexceptable (it's completely normal! ) he will loose his s#it over the smallest thing and be horrible to the kids at the drop of a hat. Also - he thinks the kids treat you bad but he can call you that!? From past experience with a partner like that, he can f#ck off over a cliff. Don't let him worm his way back into your good books either. End it and don't look back.

Yesitsbess · 03/10/2021 20:39

My son and partner have contact details in case of an emergency. It's not unusual, but him abusing that to "get" directly at OPs daughter is and it's horribly manipulative.

goingtotown · 03/10/2021 20:42

Good riddance.Your kids are your priority you’ll be happier without him.

Bleachmycloths · 03/10/2021 20:42

Sadly, I think you know that you need to end this relationship. Calling you ‘a fucking prick’ under his breath? Hardly the language of love and he is showing zero respect for you. This will only get worse. Please get rid of ASAP for your sake and the sake of your children. Stay with this awful man and you and your children are going to be seriously damaged.

EL8888 · 03/10/2021 20:42

I can relate, other people’s children are super annoying and demanding. But l have the sense to realise this and don’t date people with young children. He doesn’t appear to have that awareness. The up and down off the sofa thing would get on my nerves and the constant random needless demands

But yeah messaging your daughter was way below the belt

Slightlylostalongtheway · 03/10/2021 20:42

Wow! He'd have a total meltdown with my wildlings lol. Today the 6 year old ran in with a spider that she needed to fix because it had "broken it's leg" she's put it into a tub and is shouting quick mummy get the first aid kit, quick it'll die if it can't catch the flies...all whilst my mil is having a moment about her impending house move. Chaos, wonderful, all consuming chaos that is the stuff of memories. Decide if you want memories to be happy or tense and how you want your kids to remember their childhood then do what's best. P.s. my dh is my dc step father but is in every way her real father and would never speak like that and indeed did not step in on anything until we discussed it for as long as I needed to feel secure. We now have 6 month old twins together as well as the 8 and 6 year olds

TooTrusting · 03/10/2021 20:44

I haven't read TFT but wanted to say that this is how the abuse started in my relationship. Constant criticism of the children, and over disciplining them. When he'd done that it was my turn. Don't let him come back. Please.

Bertiebiscuit · 03/10/2021 20:44

End it with him RIGHT NOW - before his controlling abusive reactions get worse - this will not end well - you can't allow this nonsense into your life

GrandmasCat · 03/10/2021 20:44

Good grief, you don’t need to RTFT, but at least read what the OP posted, she said she was ending it in the first post!

Bombaloorina · 03/10/2021 20:45

SHE HAS ENDED IT. DAYS AGO.

EspressoDoubleShot · 03/10/2021 20:46

@Bertiebiscuit

End it with him RIGHT NOW - before his controlling abusive reactions get worse - this will not end well - you can't allow this nonsense into your life
I have to say if you’re going to use RIGHT NOW for emphasis you need to read the thread, like right now
Lotusmonster · 03/10/2021 20:47

Sorry you’ve had such a weekend from hell OP. I’m sure you’ve done the right thing 100%. Your DC are precious. It’s very easy and tempting once you’ve ended something to look back with rose tinted spectacles on the few special times but really it is the day to day that matters so very much….family members being able to relax, speak an opinion, play a bit of music, make a slice of toast - not feeling like the outsider in their own home. It’s the validation that’s so important to good mental health all round as your DC grow up. You sound like an amazing mum. His lashing out is a desperate last attempt to control. Please ignore it.

Bard6817 · 03/10/2021 20:47

As the guy who joking a ready made family…

Your guy needs to learn how to deal with kids and what normal is.

Sounds like he resents them. Kick him to the kerb.

sorry.

Bleachmycloths · 03/10/2021 20:47

I had not caught up with all OPs posts when I said get rid of him. So relieved you have given him the boot now. You have wisely avoided some very damaging experiences. Best of luck for the future

Allinadayswork80 · 03/10/2021 20:48

Sorry just read all your updates, wow you should be so proud of yourself - what a fantastic example you’ve set for your kids ❤️ That you’ve chosen not to put up with something that isn’t right for you and also shown them how loved they are and how much their happiness means to you. So sorry you’re hurting right now but you’ll heal and come out the other side stronger and wiser. He showed his true colours in his childish nasty responses and the inappropriateness of contacting your poor daughter. Good luck OP xxx

thenovice · 03/10/2021 20:48

Ditch him now. It would be a disaster for your kids and that would be awful for you. Unpick it now. Flowers

JennyForeigner · 03/10/2021 20:48

There's only one fucking prick in this relationship and it isn't you.

thenovice · 03/10/2021 20:49

Sorry, just read the rest. Well done. Your kids will know how much you love them.

Nearlyshitmypantsthere · 03/10/2021 20:50

@user124765 💐❤

BingBongToTheMoon · 03/10/2021 20:53

Cancel the cheque!

Misty333 · 03/10/2021 20:53

You probably know in your heart this won’t work you just want someone to tell you. Your kids need to come first at the age they are. In the future you will meet someone and that’s not to far away. Enjoy your children, they aren’t little long.

Jeannie88 · 03/10/2021 20:53

Oh yes, all normal and kids knowing they are secure. DP clearly doesn't get it, it's hard being a parent and we all have to do what work for us even though onlookers may have different ideas. X