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To think this is relatively normal behaviour for children?

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user124765 · 01/10/2021 23:27

Name changed for this, and also posting here for traffic.

I have three children from my marriage that ended a few years back. They are aged 10, 8 and 5. No learning issues with the kids or anything else to note, they are (to my mind) all NT.

The issue is that DP (who is hoping to live with us very soon) seems to take constant issue with their behaviour. This evening the children were upstairs getting ready for bed and I'd asked my 8 year old to have a quick shower before he brushed his teeth etc. We've just moved in to this house in the last few days so everything is quite new and different for the kids. I turned the shower on and checked it was the correct temperature for him before I left the bathroom instructing him to wash his body and not worry about his hair for tonight.
I get downstairs and sit on the sofa next to DP and almost immediately DS shouts 'Mummy!' from upstairs. I get up and head up to see what he needs, but he can't hear my reply to hang on... I'm coming, because of the noise of the shower so continues yelling 'Mummy!' and getting increasingly louder.
Once I've sorted DS out, which takes about 3 minutes, I head back downstairs and take my place back on the sofa. Immediately DP starts having a go at me about 'letting him talk to you like shit'. His tone is quite aggressive actually and I just feel like a bit of support from him rather than a bollocking for lacking as a parent wouldn't go amiss at this stage.

It's almost constant now, whenever we're together as a 'family'. DP's need to micromanage my children and his insistence that they behave badly. I feel like I'm on tenterhooks all the time, waiting for something to kick off and I'm stuck in the middle trying to mediate the drama.
The kids are fine! They are children and full of joy and they do get excited from time to time. They sometimes push boundaries and behave badly...but isn't that normal? I feel like he's trying to turn my kids in to what he believes children should behave like, when as someone who's never had children himself he just doesn't know how kids really are!

Tonight I just lost my shit a bit and told him that I refuse to live my life walking on egg shells and I'm not going to change my parenting to suit him. I choose my children, every time. He said something like 'do you want me to fuck off then?' to which I replied that yes, him going home would probably be for the best right now. He was visibly upset and stormed out slamming the door behind him. He called me a 'fucking prick' under his breath too, which shocked me. That in itself is unforgivable to me I think. I felt sad when he'd gone but also incredibly relieved.

But now what? Do I end this? If I don't then I guess I have to keep him separate from my family, I can't risk him screwing my kids up with his controlling behaviour. Or is it me? 🤷‍♀️ Is he right that my children need pulling up on this behaviour. I just think it's normal...but who knows? Giggling in restaurants, being daft at bedtime when they've been told to settle down, shouting Mummy! over and over until you drop everything and go running. Isn't this all normal?

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starlight13 · 03/10/2021 18:59

I think you know deep down OP. The children's behaviour is totally normal. He hasn't ever has children and sounds as if he wants then to behave like adults.
If he speaks to you in the manner and with those words, do you really want to be with him? He sounds controlling and negative and I expect sees it from the point of view that you and the children need him more - you don't you just need each other.
Don't let this man destroy the relationship that you have with your children.

Silverswirl · 03/10/2021 19:02
  1. He’s jealous.
  2. He’s very jealous
  3. He’s not the sort of person you want long term in you or your children’s lives. Anyone who calls you names and behaves like this like this shouldn’t be around you or the kids.
BlameItOnTheBlackStar · 03/10/2021 19:03

FOR THE LOVE OF FUCK CAN PEOPLE READ THE OP'S UPDATES!!

youvegottenminuteslynn · 03/10/2021 19:08

@Mollymoostoo

My DH was like this from the start and still is 11 years later. The relationship between him and the kids is awful and I'm always caught in the middle. But of course I can't ever say anything about his DD and her mother, my kids are spwan of the devil.

How can you live with sharing your home, your bed, your life with a man like this? Your children will have been damaged by this dynamic and so have you but they had no choice in the matter. That's really sad 😞

Littlemissmagnet · 03/10/2021 19:08

Your kids sound great very normal. No way u should all be on tenderhooks. Get rid of BF for unrealistic expectations of nornal family life! Kids come first x

Callingallskeletons · 03/10/2021 19:14

Get rid of that arsehole ASAP OP but if you decide not to absolutely DO NOT ALLOW HIM TO LIVE WITH YOU or you’ll all end up utterly miserable

Mulhollandmagoo · 03/10/2021 19:16

Messaging your daughter is beyond inappropriate! Block him on all devices, unblock him on yours and give him some hell for that! Sounds a bit like he's trying to get your daughter to feel sorry for him

JonSnowIsALoser · 03/10/2021 19:17

Get out of that relationship, and quick! Lots of very red flags there.

He has a go at you because you let your child yell "Mummy" at you, and he calls you "fucking prick"?! Jesus!

If he doesn't have kids, he just doesn't get parenting and is jealous you can't devote all your time to him. From what I see around me, such relationships rarely last.

And your poor, perfectly normal children! Why should someone who to them is a stranger, a random guy, tell them off and dictate how to behave?

Chuck that loser out - no man and no relationship is worth what you are going through. Enjoy living with your kids only for now, and maybe sone nice available dad will fall in your lap at some point.

Good luck and be strong!

Mamamoosika · 03/10/2021 19:17

Yes definitely normal behaviour from your children. NOT normal behaviour from your DP!! I would dump him right away. He’s showing his horrible true colours.

Mulhollandmagoo · 03/10/2021 19:18

@Mollymoostoo why are you living like this???? Why don't you leave him? Those poor kids

Lindylindyloo · 03/10/2021 19:19

Get rid. Absolutely.

SylvanasWindrunner · 03/10/2021 19:19

Please read the updates. It' a 600-post long thread - it stands to reason there's probably been more since the first post. Just click the button to see OP's posts.

LaDamaDeElche · 03/10/2021 19:19

You did the right thing OP. He wasn't going to be a good fit for your family and the swearing at you, telling you your kids speak to you like shit etc are all red flags about his temperament.

I also think, those things aside, many people who haven't had their own kids have a view of how people should parent/children should behave based on their own childhoods. It's not until you become a parent that the hypothetical great parenting skills you have fly out of the window lol.

I think with three kids, it going to be difficult for people without their own kids to fit into your family dynamic and it might be better to look at the dating pool of people who have their own kids, as they might find the family dynamics a bit easier, or you might be lucky and find a person who doesn't have their own kids who just clicks. I only have one DD and it took a lot of adjusting on DP's part to fit into the stepdad role. They get on well, but it hasn't always been an easy road. He is very respectful of his parents and is very clean and tidy and DD is an argumentative tween/nearly teen and very messy. I've definitely been referee at times lol.

Maisymoomoo22 · 03/10/2021 19:20

There’s only one fucking prick in this and it isn’t you OP.
Well done for showing him the door your lovely kids will thank you later.
I believe in the saying of when someone shows you who they are…believe them!

SylvanasWindrunner · 03/10/2021 19:21

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29cdo · 03/10/2021 19:22

Never posted here b4 but having read ur post i feel so compelled to. I am the woman that moved in with a man like this and 3 yrs on am trying desperately to save some money to be able to leave. Pls pls pls do not carry on any further in the relationship with him. Your children are the most important relationship to have and do not let him come between u and them. Sorry but this has so many red flags and I wish someone had waved them at me.

petelacey · 03/10/2021 19:23

Of course your children will call you when they need help. This DP is not being realistic. He needs to fit in with them but step dads tend to make really bad dads. They're not his and will resent them. He wants you all to himself not the extra baggage.

Pearshaped20 · 03/10/2021 19:23

Perfectly normal sounding kids to me. If this is at the start of you living together it isn't going to get any better. Sounds like he thinks kids should be seen and not heard. I think you already know what you need to do. Definitely kids first. Good luck

IWishIHadNotDoneIt · 03/10/2021 19:23

I've been where you are and it didn't end well. At first, he was amazing with my DC. As things got more serious, he got more involved but that was all good. It happened slowly, he started questioning me, then questioning my decisions in front of the DC, then undermining me. By the time I realised, I was pregnant. OK I thought, once we have another one, a bio DC for DP, things will change. No they didn't. He got worse. He wasn't having his child turn out like the others. When my baby was about 18 months, I kicked him out. Best decision for all of us.

neeenor · 03/10/2021 19:23

Your kids sound normal to me.

Ditch the BF he doesn't get it and he's going to change your family dynamic for the worse.

I always admire those who can gracefully take on other peoples children and be a positive factor yet not interfere. Honestly, I find other peoples children annoying and irritating in anything but small doses.

I just feel differently about my own. Of course I see that (and feel that) my own DS is super annoying / naughty / stroppy at times but it doesn't get to me like it does for others, I seem to have patience and tolerance for him. I guess im not a 'kid' person beyond my own and those close.

A blended family situation is not for everyone.

peppermintpat · 03/10/2021 19:25

A male friend of mines ExP got engaged to a chap who hated her kids. She was so desperate just to have a man around and put up with it. They got engaged and he would not interact with her kids when they were around even shutting himself away in the spare room to avoid them. In the end after huge row he left but had this not happened I think she would have married him just for the security of a partner.

TertiusLydgate · 03/10/2021 19:25

Why are you subjecting your kids to him? He sounds awful.

I would not let my kids grow up anywhere near him, frankly.

pollymere · 03/10/2021 19:33

Sorry, I think if he moves in things will only get worse... You sound like a lovely fun bunch and I think that will just be squashed by your relationship if he moves in. His behaviour already sounds controlling. He's not the right person for you and your family.

CantThinkOfaUserNameAgain · 03/10/2021 19:35

Please end your relationship. Please don’t let your kids grow up walking on eggshells and thinking it is normal in q relationship for their mum to be called a «fc$$ prick».

This will only get worse. This is abuse.

You and your children deserve so much more.

Caffeinette · 03/10/2021 19:36

He sounds awful! I’m really sorry to say this but he evidently has no experience of children whatsoever! Alarm bells would ring for me if my partner behaved like this. As you say “walking on eggshells” is no way to have to live! 💐