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To think this is relatively normal behaviour for children?

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user124765 · 01/10/2021 23:27

Name changed for this, and also posting here for traffic.

I have three children from my marriage that ended a few years back. They are aged 10, 8 and 5. No learning issues with the kids or anything else to note, they are (to my mind) all NT.

The issue is that DP (who is hoping to live with us very soon) seems to take constant issue with their behaviour. This evening the children were upstairs getting ready for bed and I'd asked my 8 year old to have a quick shower before he brushed his teeth etc. We've just moved in to this house in the last few days so everything is quite new and different for the kids. I turned the shower on and checked it was the correct temperature for him before I left the bathroom instructing him to wash his body and not worry about his hair for tonight.
I get downstairs and sit on the sofa next to DP and almost immediately DS shouts 'Mummy!' from upstairs. I get up and head up to see what he needs, but he can't hear my reply to hang on... I'm coming, because of the noise of the shower so continues yelling 'Mummy!' and getting increasingly louder.
Once I've sorted DS out, which takes about 3 minutes, I head back downstairs and take my place back on the sofa. Immediately DP starts having a go at me about 'letting him talk to you like shit'. His tone is quite aggressive actually and I just feel like a bit of support from him rather than a bollocking for lacking as a parent wouldn't go amiss at this stage.

It's almost constant now, whenever we're together as a 'family'. DP's need to micromanage my children and his insistence that they behave badly. I feel like I'm on tenterhooks all the time, waiting for something to kick off and I'm stuck in the middle trying to mediate the drama.
The kids are fine! They are children and full of joy and they do get excited from time to time. They sometimes push boundaries and behave badly...but isn't that normal? I feel like he's trying to turn my kids in to what he believes children should behave like, when as someone who's never had children himself he just doesn't know how kids really are!

Tonight I just lost my shit a bit and told him that I refuse to live my life walking on egg shells and I'm not going to change my parenting to suit him. I choose my children, every time. He said something like 'do you want me to fuck off then?' to which I replied that yes, him going home would probably be for the best right now. He was visibly upset and stormed out slamming the door behind him. He called me a 'fucking prick' under his breath too, which shocked me. That in itself is unforgivable to me I think. I felt sad when he'd gone but also incredibly relieved.

But now what? Do I end this? If I don't then I guess I have to keep him separate from my family, I can't risk him screwing my kids up with his controlling behaviour. Or is it me? 🤷‍♀️ Is he right that my children need pulling up on this behaviour. I just think it's normal...but who knows? Giggling in restaurants, being daft at bedtime when they've been told to settle down, shouting Mummy! over and over until you drop everything and go running. Isn't this all normal?

OP posts:
Heatheroo · 03/10/2021 17:46

It's obvious he's jealous. He doesn't want to share you with anyone but he needs to realise that you and your children come as a package. Get someone to babysit and go out for a stroll or a quiet drink and talk. Tell him that you love him and always will but that you're a mother too and will always live your children as well. Then add that they could do with a father figure if he's up for it and ask him if you can work together. Many a problem is solved with a bit of communication and if he believes he's a part of the family he's less likely to think the children are getting all your attention. Good luck x

glowfrog · 03/10/2021 17:48

OP, you are a QUEEN!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Pinklemonade1 · 03/10/2021 17:49

I read your last reply and have come on to absolutely applaud you. It must be bloody hard to end something and thus "be single again" or whatever but you are a fantastic Mum for realising this man just isn't suitable to be in your children's lives. Please please stick to your guns as he really isn't right for you all. Good luck. ❤️

FrozenWillow · 03/10/2021 17:50

OP this sounds like a narcissistic abusive ahole. End it! For the sake of your kids. My bio father was just like this. Alarm bells are ringing for me as I read your story. My mother chose to stay with my father in turn losing me as a daughter because he was more important than I was - even though he abused me in many ways - but the narc ways were very damaging. Do what's right by your kids, not by him.

Insertcreativenamehere · 03/10/2021 17:50

Sorry to say but you partner sounds like a dick. He may not be used to being around children but that’s no excuse. He needs to respect you and respect your parenting - which by the way sounds completely normal. Look after you and your children.

Romney981 · 03/10/2021 17:51

Your kids behaviour sounds normal. I think it would all go horribly wrong if he moved in as it doesn't sound as though he knows what normal kid behaviour is. You could maybe try continuing the relationship without living together if you don't want to end it with him and see how things go. I had 4 kids and when they all lived at home I coped with and enjoyed (most) of the chaos but now they've grown and have their own places I think if I moved in with someone who had 3 young kids they would irritate me as I have had peace and quiet for so long so I can sort of understand how he doesn't "get" your kids behaviour as he hasn't had the experience. But I still wouldn't let him move in.

ilovechocolate07 · 03/10/2021 17:52

Sounds like typical hypothetical perfect parenting syndrome! I think you need to have an importantly conversation about boundaries abd expectations where the children are concerned. I'd personally be running a mile because he doesn't sound like he's a very nice person or understanding of children. Theoretically, would you be comfortable with him minding your children for an extended period of time? If not then get rid.

Gandalfsthong · 03/10/2021 17:52

Getting awful vibes from what you’ve written OP. You did the right thing standing up to him, he sounds awful, and you’re right it will only get worse. Well done For telling him to go.

Imissmoominmama · 03/10/2021 17:54

Honestly- he sounds horrible- don’t put your kids through being judged for being normal.

The “fucking prick” is him, not you.

Scorpio75kaz · 03/10/2021 17:55

I’m so sorry to read all of this. From a rather unpleasant past relationship experience, He sounds quite Narcissistic to me and as much as it hurts, you are definitely well shot of him.
You will find the right one someday. In the meantime hug your kiddies a little closer, laugh a little harder and enjoy them at every opportunity, you definitely are NOT a shitty mum - you put your kids first! xxx
Sending you virtual hugs cos it sounds like you need them. You’ve made the right choice for you and your family, despite how hard it was for you. Hold your head high and be proud of yourself. You got this xx

LittleMissMe99 · 03/10/2021 17:55

I'm impressed your 8 year old can shower alone. The problem is definitely HIM and not your children. And if he's not their father, how dare he dictate anything to do with your children. It would be the end of the relationship for me

nannykatherine · 03/10/2021 17:56

Wether the behaviour is normal or not your partner is obviously not used to children …alarm bells would be ringing with me ..
And he has not even moved in yet !!???

JustDoingMe · 03/10/2021 17:57

Total red flags!
DP is a danger to your kids and maybe you, kick him to the kerb pronto!
Follow your instincts, better to be lonely for a minute rather than allow someone into your childrens' lives that could mentally and/or physically abuse them!

FelicityPike · 03/10/2021 17:58

@JustDoingMe

Total red flags! DP is a danger to your kids and maybe you, kick him to the kerb pronto! Follow your instincts, better to be lonely for a minute rather than allow someone into your childrens' lives that could mentally and/or physically abuse them!
Does nobody bother to read the whole thread? Or at least the OP’s posts?
Sittingonthedockofthebay · 03/10/2021 18:02

He's not good enough for you or your children, time to pull stumps and live happily ever after.

Plumbuddle · 03/10/2021 18:02

Just read the op's posts I'm afraid, not every single other one.
I'm a step parent and it's often the case that step parents do see flaws in the parent's parenting, quite objectively. So I would not have made that a deal breaker in any partnership so long as comments on the kids were expressed constructively. But his campaign against you as a parent...? Terrible coercive control. When I read he called you a prick I was horrified, that for me would be the end of a relationship.
But now, the message to your daughter? This is seriously worrying. I would regard this as such a red flag. Please sit down with your daughter and get her to understand in age appropriate way that no man who happens to be a friend of yours, even a boyfriend, is allowed to approach her independently and she must always report it back to you.
OP I fear he may not stop. First, give a photo of him to their schools and tell them please to ensure that they let you know if he is seen around. Make sure only you and your ex are named to collect from school.
Secondly, ensure that you are ready for the situation that could arise if he tries to make trouble with the likes of social services about your parenting. You can't stop him making nuisance calls to the council, but just be prepared for a visit or phone call from them just to check the kids are ok. Ensure everything is clean and food in the fridge etc and that the kids have a full age-appropriate explanation for why he is not coming round any more.
Give him the empty chair treatment from now on in and also make all your social media private.
Horribly manipulative man. He probably knew you could see what he did with the mouse.

Ash2956 · 03/10/2021 18:04

Please don’t move in with the cockwomble! He sounds dreadful. You sound like an amazing mum with lovely normal lively and happy kids ❤️

takenforgrantednana · 03/10/2021 18:05

the person in your house that has a bad attitude and shouldnt be speaking you like that is him and its only going to get worse! get rid now! keep him well away from the kids

MollyMinniesMum · 03/10/2021 18:05

You’ve done entirely the right thing x

EmoIsntDead · 03/10/2021 18:06

Does nobody read the OPs updates? [Confused]

Lalahmama3BB · 03/10/2021 18:06

They sound totally normal and you sound like a good attentive mum. Your dp on the other hand has issues. I’d ditch him.

gogohm · 03/10/2021 18:07

Whether it's normal or being really demanding depends on frequency. It doesn't seem bad to me but an 8 year old repeatedly asking for help for things typically 8 year olds can do, particularly if he's timing it for when he knows you are trying to spend a bit of time with dp might be a bit annoying, all depends on what else is happening???

Giggling in restaurants again not an issue if quietly but if it's annoying other customers and actually they are doing it to annoy him deliberately? He sounds like he doesn't like children though, is it them trying to get a reaction from him or him being intolerant, if the latter leave him!

Cherryberrybonbon · 03/10/2021 18:09

Get rid of him.

I didn’t realise that my dp was like this until we sold both our houses and moved in together properly. I can live with it as it’s my child and my dp isn’t an arsehole about it but I am constantly telling my child not to push it just to keep the peace as I can’t be doing with the ear ache. Don’t get me wrong if it was unnecessary I’d be well rid, he does step in where he needs to about eating, attitude at times etc but sometimes it is uncalled for when it’s just childish behaviour. Does he have his own children? Does he know what kids are like?

Kteeb1 · 03/10/2021 18:09

Red flags all over the place. Get out. Get out now.

Bonbon21 · 03/10/2021 18:10

I think you have already made your decision.
Your kids come first. Irreplaceable.
Men.... like buses...there will always be another one in a bit...

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