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To think this is relatively normal behaviour for children?

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user124765 · 01/10/2021 23:27

Name changed for this, and also posting here for traffic.

I have three children from my marriage that ended a few years back. They are aged 10, 8 and 5. No learning issues with the kids or anything else to note, they are (to my mind) all NT.

The issue is that DP (who is hoping to live with us very soon) seems to take constant issue with their behaviour. This evening the children were upstairs getting ready for bed and I'd asked my 8 year old to have a quick shower before he brushed his teeth etc. We've just moved in to this house in the last few days so everything is quite new and different for the kids. I turned the shower on and checked it was the correct temperature for him before I left the bathroom instructing him to wash his body and not worry about his hair for tonight.
I get downstairs and sit on the sofa next to DP and almost immediately DS shouts 'Mummy!' from upstairs. I get up and head up to see what he needs, but he can't hear my reply to hang on... I'm coming, because of the noise of the shower so continues yelling 'Mummy!' and getting increasingly louder.
Once I've sorted DS out, which takes about 3 minutes, I head back downstairs and take my place back on the sofa. Immediately DP starts having a go at me about 'letting him talk to you like shit'. His tone is quite aggressive actually and I just feel like a bit of support from him rather than a bollocking for lacking as a parent wouldn't go amiss at this stage.

It's almost constant now, whenever we're together as a 'family'. DP's need to micromanage my children and his insistence that they behave badly. I feel like I'm on tenterhooks all the time, waiting for something to kick off and I'm stuck in the middle trying to mediate the drama.
The kids are fine! They are children and full of joy and they do get excited from time to time. They sometimes push boundaries and behave badly...but isn't that normal? I feel like he's trying to turn my kids in to what he believes children should behave like, when as someone who's never had children himself he just doesn't know how kids really are!

Tonight I just lost my shit a bit and told him that I refuse to live my life walking on egg shells and I'm not going to change my parenting to suit him. I choose my children, every time. He said something like 'do you want me to fuck off then?' to which I replied that yes, him going home would probably be for the best right now. He was visibly upset and stormed out slamming the door behind him. He called me a 'fucking prick' under his breath too, which shocked me. That in itself is unforgivable to me I think. I felt sad when he'd gone but also incredibly relieved.

But now what? Do I end this? If I don't then I guess I have to keep him separate from my family, I can't risk him screwing my kids up with his controlling behaviour. Or is it me? 🤷‍♀️ Is he right that my children need pulling up on this behaviour. I just think it's normal...but who knows? Giggling in restaurants, being daft at bedtime when they've been told to settle down, shouting Mummy! over and over until you drop everything and go running. Isn't this all normal?

OP posts:
felulageller · 03/10/2021 10:10

It's domestic abuse!

Don't expose your DCs to it.

Blacknosugarplease · 03/10/2021 10:49

Big hug. I really think you did the right thing. You’ve saved your kids and yourself years of misery. I really admire your strength. Even if you don’t feel very strong right now, you have demonstrated exactly this Smile Cake

user124765 · 03/10/2021 15:04

Afternoon everyone.
My daughter received a message today from him. 🤦‍♀️ I forgot to block him on her phone too. Just saying that he's sorry for the things he said yesterday to me when he was emotional and upset, he loves us all etc but he'll leave us alone.
I wonder how long before he shows up on the doorstep though. Sad

OP posts:
nimbuscloud · 03/10/2021 15:23

I think it’s outrageous that he contacted a 10 year old child like that. He has absolutely no business doing that.

BiLuminous · 03/10/2021 15:24

@user124765

Afternoon everyone. My daughter received a message today from him. 🤦‍♀️ I forgot to block him on her phone too. Just saying that he's sorry for the things he said yesterday to me when he was emotional and upset, he loves us all etc but he'll leave us alone. I wonder how long before he shows up on the doorstep though. Sad
Oh this is stepping over so many boundaries. Be careful x
MzHz · 03/10/2021 15:26

I’d go fucking apeshit on him for that

Who the actual fuck does that? He’s determined not to be the bad guy, was he hoping for a response?block him on all phones and unblock him on yours to tell him that he’s not to contact you directly or indirectly via family or children etc or turns up at your home etc you’ll be notifying the police.

Then block him again

How dare he fuck with Mumma Bear!

Fernando072020 · 03/10/2021 15:35

Hi op, I've just read your op all your updates. Can I just how refreshing it is to read a mum putting her children before a man? For that alone, you are a bloody fantastic mother and from what you've written you have absolutely done the right thing. My cousins had a dad who sounds similar to your ex-dp and they were miserable. Once my auntie left him, the kids were really happy.

The fact you felt relief after just solidifies that it was right

justthecat · 03/10/2021 15:43

He attacked your parenting skills because he knows it would hurt you. He doesn’t like the fact you put your dc before him, a bad mother wouldn’t do that.
And disgusting he contacted your dc. You did the right thing.

Alicenwonderland · 03/10/2021 16:31

If he shows up, don't answer the door. Call the police if you need to.

lifecoachingandotherbollocks · 03/10/2021 16:32

@user124765

Afternoon everyone. My daughter received a message today from him. 🤦‍♀️ I forgot to block him on her phone too. Just saying that he's sorry for the things he said yesterday to me when he was emotional and upset, he loves us all etc but he'll leave us alone. I wonder how long before he shows up on the doorstep though. Sad
What???? How dare heAngry
lottiegarbanzo · 03/10/2021 16:53

Mice don't answer back.

PickAChew · 03/10/2021 17:03

@lottiegarbanzo

Mice don't answer back.
What are you implying?
GrandmasCat · 03/10/2021 17:14

@user124765

Afternoon everyone. My daughter received a message today from him. 🤦‍♀️ I forgot to block him on her phone too. Just saying that he's sorry for the things he said yesterday to me when he was emotional and upset, he loves us all etc but he'll leave us alone. I wonder how long before he shows up on the doorstep though. Sad
This is sooooo wrong I so many levels, you never throw children into the middle of adults’ conflict, much less so if they are not your own.

OP, give a ring to WomensAid, you have not seen yet the worse of him. Hurting the children to manipulate them against you is a very very dangerous sign.

Block him completely, but before. you do send him a message asking him “never to contact you or your children again.” If that message has been sent you can get the police involved if things escalate.

Peppermintpatty24 · 03/10/2021 17:37

Please heed these massive red flags, and kick this guy as far down the kerb that you can,band don't look back. He has already revealed his true self, and you should open your eyes wide and see what he is showing you. Everything you've told us about your kids is as you already know, perfectly normal kid behaviour. They are happy by the sound of things. Keep it that way. Don't invite evil into your home. He's already got you doubting yourself and your kids. Best wishes.

etcher70 · 03/10/2021 17:37

Definitely dump him!! If he can't be kind and supportive you just don't need him. Find someone who appreciates you AND your lovely children!

Wearethechampionsmyfriend · 03/10/2021 17:39

Sorry, this relationship is road to nowhere. He's not their dad and he obviously has no feelings for the children apart from they annoy him, don't let him move in, I worry for how the children will grow up under his control. Let him go and love your children.

MrsArchchancellorRidcully · 03/10/2021 17:39

Dump the dp and focus on your dc

waitingpatientlyforspring · 03/10/2021 17:39

Op, you are the best mother for putting your children first. You recognised behaviours that you know long term won't make your children happy and you did something about it. I was once your children. My mum didn't leave my step dad until his behaviour was to much for HER to handle. I even lived with my dad for a while after my step dad's behaviour became to much, she stayed with him for another 6 years.

Donutdisaster · 03/10/2021 17:42

See ya! Honk honk. Wave 🤡

duffeldaisy · 03/10/2021 17:43

Woah, he really is horrible - and contacting your child to get at you is absolutely red flag territory.

I'm so sorry. He's obviously jealous of the close relationship you have with your children. You have done nothing wrong, you sound like a great Mum, and while this must be horrendous to go through right now, thank goodness you saw this side of him and recognised it fast before he moved into your life and caused you and your children even more distress.

Please do get help if you need it to keep him away - ring the police if he comes to the door, etc. Hopefully he will get the hint and go.
Well done for making the right decision. And it really, really is the right decision. That controlling would only have got worse and worse until all of you were on eggshells, and that's no way for children to live.
All the best! Flowers

youvegottenminuteslynn · 03/10/2021 17:44

Oh wow I would lose my SHIT over him messaging your daughter!! How dare he?! God he really is a piece of work, thank god he's out. Block him on everything including any gaming devices he knows their usernames on / is linked with them on.

Mumontour85 · 03/10/2021 17:44

My sisters and I are in our thirties and still do the 'mumumumumumumum' thing to wind our mum up 😂 it's certainly normal for children to do it.
Your partner sounds like someone that has never been around small children, I personally wouldn't want mine to be his first, given how he is treating them. He either has to get on board with a steep learning curve or leave.
I love that you've made clear that it's your kids every time, thank you for that. No man is worth your children's happiness ❣

plumpynoo · 03/10/2021 17:44

A man who called me a "fucking prick" like a sulking teenager would never be spoken to again! It's not going to work out with an overgrown child in the house believing he's in charge, get rid!

sheridanstar · 03/10/2021 17:45

Firstly, thats totally normal kids behaviour.
Secondly, do you really want to be with someone that would call you a f**king prick?
Find a better man, maybe one that has kids of his own so he has that experience.

GretaS · 03/10/2021 17:46

He sounds obnoxious. It's totally not acceptable. Your children are totally normal, and you understand them better than anyone. He sounds unsuitable as a carer for them and you and your children will suffer. I'd dump him quick. You'll be happier straight away.