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To think this is relatively normal behaviour for children?

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user124765 · 01/10/2021 23:27

Name changed for this, and also posting here for traffic.

I have three children from my marriage that ended a few years back. They are aged 10, 8 and 5. No learning issues with the kids or anything else to note, they are (to my mind) all NT.

The issue is that DP (who is hoping to live with us very soon) seems to take constant issue with their behaviour. This evening the children were upstairs getting ready for bed and I'd asked my 8 year old to have a quick shower before he brushed his teeth etc. We've just moved in to this house in the last few days so everything is quite new and different for the kids. I turned the shower on and checked it was the correct temperature for him before I left the bathroom instructing him to wash his body and not worry about his hair for tonight.
I get downstairs and sit on the sofa next to DP and almost immediately DS shouts 'Mummy!' from upstairs. I get up and head up to see what he needs, but he can't hear my reply to hang on... I'm coming, because of the noise of the shower so continues yelling 'Mummy!' and getting increasingly louder.
Once I've sorted DS out, which takes about 3 minutes, I head back downstairs and take my place back on the sofa. Immediately DP starts having a go at me about 'letting him talk to you like shit'. His tone is quite aggressive actually and I just feel like a bit of support from him rather than a bollocking for lacking as a parent wouldn't go amiss at this stage.

It's almost constant now, whenever we're together as a 'family'. DP's need to micromanage my children and his insistence that they behave badly. I feel like I'm on tenterhooks all the time, waiting for something to kick off and I'm stuck in the middle trying to mediate the drama.
The kids are fine! They are children and full of joy and they do get excited from time to time. They sometimes push boundaries and behave badly...but isn't that normal? I feel like he's trying to turn my kids in to what he believes children should behave like, when as someone who's never had children himself he just doesn't know how kids really are!

Tonight I just lost my shit a bit and told him that I refuse to live my life walking on egg shells and I'm not going to change my parenting to suit him. I choose my children, every time. He said something like 'do you want me to fuck off then?' to which I replied that yes, him going home would probably be for the best right now. He was visibly upset and stormed out slamming the door behind him. He called me a 'fucking prick' under his breath too, which shocked me. That in itself is unforgivable to me I think. I felt sad when he'd gone but also incredibly relieved.

But now what? Do I end this? If I don't then I guess I have to keep him separate from my family, I can't risk him screwing my kids up with his controlling behaviour. Or is it me? 🤷‍♀️ Is he right that my children need pulling up on this behaviour. I just think it's normal...but who knows? Giggling in restaurants, being daft at bedtime when they've been told to settle down, shouting Mummy! over and over until you drop everything and go running. Isn't this all normal?

OP posts:
MissChanandlerBong81 · 02/10/2021 19:52

I’m sorry it was a horrible experience but I really really think you did the right thing. And he’s shown you who he really is now.

I had a friend at school who had a stepfather who sounds a bit like that. She was older that your DC - a teenager - but it really messed her up, he used to pick on every tiny thing she did in the most controlling way. I can only remember this one example but she was sitting in her room one night doing her homework and had left her wardrobe door open after putting some clothes away. He made a huge deal of fetching her mother and saying ‘she’s just sitting there in her room with her wardrobe door open!!’ and making her shut it.

Rainbowsew · 02/10/2021 20:01

You know what you need to do - end it!

It'll only get worse if he moves in...

joell75 · 02/10/2021 20:25

I had exactly this situation. It's so ridiculous because they have no parenting experience to draw on...yet still, somehow make us second guess ourselves. When it was all over, I looked back and felt so angry with myself for allowing my children to be in that position. You've done the right thing.

GrandmaSteglitszch · 02/10/2021 20:26

He twisted everything around to make it my fault and accused me of being a bad mother, amongst other things.

He's shown himself up as a very nasty person.
It's upsetting that you thought he was a good man and he's turned out like this.

You did the right thing and you & your family are much better to be free of him.

lifecoachingandotherbollocks · 02/10/2021 20:29

You know the answer. Please ditch or at the very least keep him away from your dcs.

Riada · 02/10/2021 20:32

He knew what to say to hurt you after you hurt his pride by prioritising your children’s happiness. It bears no resemblance to reality. Put it out of your head, and congratulate yourself on having saved yourself and your children a lot of pain. Flowers

GabriellaMontez · 02/10/2021 20:33

He criticised and mansplained your parenting despite not being a parent. Quick to anger.

Sounds like a controlling twat. Thank goodness he didn't get moved in. He's the kind of DP you can do without.

iguanadonna · 02/10/2021 20:40

I'm pretty strict with my (now a bit older) children and not at all tolerant of whining etc. so from the title I was totally here to be like yeah, annoying kids.

But actually they sound just what children are like and need to be like. They do all that stuff. It's part of the deal.

You made a very good choice prioritizing them over fusspot man.

EmeraldShamrock · 02/10/2021 20:40

Well that was awful. He twisted everything around to make it my fault and accused me of being a bad mother, amongst other things. I didn't say a lot, other than to just repeat that I know the truth and that it's over, nothing to discuss.
I'm not going to lie though, I'm absolutely gutted that he ripped my parenting to shreds like that.

Well feck him, the nasty bustard.
Attacking you as his defence.
I'm so happy you got rid of him, please don't let him apologise.
You're very luck your gut flagged his nasty behaviour early.
Thank your lucky stars.
Stay strong.

Ukholidaysaregreat · 02/10/2021 20:50

End it. He is a twat who will make your life a misery. Good Luck.

SharpLily · 02/10/2021 21:18

@user124765

Well that was awful. He twisted everything around to make it my fault and accused me of being a bad mother, amongst other things. I didn't say a lot, other than to just repeat that I know the truth and that it's over, nothing to discuss. I'm not going to lie though, I'm absolutely gutted that he ripped my parenting to shreds like that.
There's really no need to be gutted. He's not a parent and doesn't have a clue what he's talking about so why would you listen to anything he has to say on that subject? Sounds like you've had a lucky escape anyway.
Maryjane3227 · 02/10/2021 21:34

Sounds like he just wants your kids to shut up and hang back in the shadows. He doesn't get what having children entails.
I hope you can extricate yourself from this. No man, no amount of saving money is worth sacrificing your kids for. I think It will get worse and worse, and they will end up resenting him, and possibly you. Sorry to be so negative. I suspect you know this and that's why you posted.
Hope you can get out as unscathed by this as possible

NightVinca · 02/10/2021 21:36

Ignore him. He knows nothing and he's the one who's not cut out to be a parent. Let's hope he never has or moves in with kids. Just concentrate on this No one around me has ever pointed out behavioural problems with my children. From their school reports and parents evenings they are all well mannered and working hard, making lots of friends and meeting expected standards. All family members seem to think they're lovely. 🤷‍♀️ And I've spoken to my own mother about DP and his insistence that the kids are naughty. She laughed and told me to take no notice, that they are completely normal and she should know as she raised 4 of us alone while my dad worked abroad. She would definitely tell me if there was a problem
You've obviously done a good job with them op

Yesitsbess · 02/10/2021 22:02

I've read your posts OP but not the full thread. You've done the right thing, there's a saying isn't there that the only perfect parents are those who don't have children...

But he sounds like a special kind of "perfect" and you're well rid.

Enjoy your lovely kids.

insatiableme · 02/10/2021 22:28

Op it is completely normal behaviour for kids. it would of got worse and yours kids would have picked up on it. I have been there and it really affects them. Well done for being strong.

nimbuscloud · 02/10/2021 22:45

Kids are funny things, aren't they? I told them that he's not coming back because I can see that he's making our household an unhappy one. Cue lots of tears...'but I want him here' type remarks etc. I said 'does he make you feel afraid to be yourself sometimes? Like you might get in trouble and you have to behave differently?' They all said a firm yes. So why would they want him around? Very strange.

Probably because they felt that’s what you wanted. And they didn’t feel that they could tell you that is not what they wanted.

user124765 · 02/10/2021 23:04

I'm so upset that I can't catch my breath for crying. This evening he has sent me the most horrible message telling me what a shitty mum I am. I've blocked him on everything now...no idea why I didn't do that to begin with. I'm just absolutely livid that he's said these things to me. I can't stop crying. I know I'm not the best mum but I'm not the worst! His message made me feel like shit.

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youvegottenminuteslynn · 02/10/2021 23:09

Oh my love thank god you didn't move him in - that shows you're a good mum!

He's a pathetic man child lashing out because he didn't get his way. Aka an absolute cunt. With a bullying streak.

He's saying that about you being a bad mum precisely because he knows your kids are your priority so he's trying to hit you where it hurts. That's how nasty he is.

Let yourself have a proper wallow and a good cry this weekend then try to focus on the absolute relief this prick is out of your life now Thanks

user124765 · 02/10/2021 23:09

And the worst thing is that I'm sitting on the sofa snivelling and crying and my 10 year old comes downstairs. She should be asleep ages ago. She says 'why are you crying mummy' and I just let the flood gates open. She sat on my knee whilst I sobbed and told her why I'm broken. Maybe I am the worst after all. She's just a baby and shouldn't have to comfort her mother.

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DerAlteMann · 02/10/2021 23:10

Kids are normal. Your DP isn't. You choose.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 02/10/2021 23:11

I think I would go along the line of:

"Sometimes grown ups get really sad when they split up, even when it's definitely the right decision like this time. But you don't need to worry because I will be fine and everyone gets sad sometimes, but we'll have a lovely day all together tomorrow so don't worry. Big hugs and bedtime now."

Or similar. Bless you, sorry he's been such a shit Thanks

71HourAhmed · 02/10/2021 23:12

You're a good mum. The fact that you've stood up for your children shows that. He's angry because you didn't choose him and now he's lashing out to try to hurt you as much as he thinks he's hurting. Please don't listen to him. You deserve so much better.

nimbuscloud · 02/10/2021 23:15

He’s a fucking bastard.

billy1966 · 02/10/2021 23:15

Keep those messages.

Even the very slightest feeling of a threatening tone, ring 101 and tell them where he lives and works.

Softens the cough of bullys like him.

OP, you actually shouldn't be surprised by his behaviour at all.

He wasn't pleasant about your children and was making them uneasy in their home, it really shouldn't be that big a surprise to you that such a man is a nasty piece of work.

He had already shown who he is.

I hope you will reflect on this and think about when you first ignored your gut re his behaviour.

Learn from this, and just be glad you finally did right by your kids and got rid of him.

Flowers
billy1966 · 02/10/2021 23:19

@youvegottenminuteslynn

I think I would go along the line of:

"Sometimes grown ups get really sad when they split up, even when it's definitely the right decision like this time. But you don't need to worry because I will be fine and everyone gets sad sometimes, but we'll have a lovely day all together tomorrow so don't worry. Big hugs and bedtime now."

Or similar. Bless you, sorry he's been such a shit Thanks

Definitely explain that you will feel better tomorrow.

You all deserve better than him.
Flowers