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To think this is relatively normal behaviour for children?

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user124765 · 01/10/2021 23:27

Name changed for this, and also posting here for traffic.

I have three children from my marriage that ended a few years back. They are aged 10, 8 and 5. No learning issues with the kids or anything else to note, they are (to my mind) all NT.

The issue is that DP (who is hoping to live with us very soon) seems to take constant issue with their behaviour. This evening the children were upstairs getting ready for bed and I'd asked my 8 year old to have a quick shower before he brushed his teeth etc. We've just moved in to this house in the last few days so everything is quite new and different for the kids. I turned the shower on and checked it was the correct temperature for him before I left the bathroom instructing him to wash his body and not worry about his hair for tonight.
I get downstairs and sit on the sofa next to DP and almost immediately DS shouts 'Mummy!' from upstairs. I get up and head up to see what he needs, but he can't hear my reply to hang on... I'm coming, because of the noise of the shower so continues yelling 'Mummy!' and getting increasingly louder.
Once I've sorted DS out, which takes about 3 minutes, I head back downstairs and take my place back on the sofa. Immediately DP starts having a go at me about 'letting him talk to you like shit'. His tone is quite aggressive actually and I just feel like a bit of support from him rather than a bollocking for lacking as a parent wouldn't go amiss at this stage.

It's almost constant now, whenever we're together as a 'family'. DP's need to micromanage my children and his insistence that they behave badly. I feel like I'm on tenterhooks all the time, waiting for something to kick off and I'm stuck in the middle trying to mediate the drama.
The kids are fine! They are children and full of joy and they do get excited from time to time. They sometimes push boundaries and behave badly...but isn't that normal? I feel like he's trying to turn my kids in to what he believes children should behave like, when as someone who's never had children himself he just doesn't know how kids really are!

Tonight I just lost my shit a bit and told him that I refuse to live my life walking on egg shells and I'm not going to change my parenting to suit him. I choose my children, every time. He said something like 'do you want me to fuck off then?' to which I replied that yes, him going home would probably be for the best right now. He was visibly upset and stormed out slamming the door behind him. He called me a 'fucking prick' under his breath too, which shocked me. That in itself is unforgivable to me I think. I felt sad when he'd gone but also incredibly relieved.

But now what? Do I end this? If I don't then I guess I have to keep him separate from my family, I can't risk him screwing my kids up with his controlling behaviour. Or is it me? 🤷‍♀️ Is he right that my children need pulling up on this behaviour. I just think it's normal...but who knows? Giggling in restaurants, being daft at bedtime when they've been told to settle down, shouting Mummy! over and over until you drop everything and go running. Isn't this all normal?

OP posts:
MissJeanBrodiesprime · 02/10/2021 16:48

Well done op for standing up for who you are and what you believe and not allowing yourself to be pushed around by what sounds like a truly awful man. Best wishes for a happy future with your lovely and normal children!

Skysblue · 02/10/2021 16:50

I would definitely end it. He has no understanding of, or empathy towards, children and sounds like he’d make a horrible stepdad, so this relationship has no future. I also really worry for you about how he is trying to control YOU and make it adults vs children instead of respecting what sounds like a healthy and close relationship between you and your children. Plus swearing at you like that is a massive red flag. You don’t want to live with a man who has that little control over his temper or qho thinks that’s an acceptable way to behav.

Please end this. If you let him move in, I guarantee that his behaviour towards both you and the children will get much much worse.

ShoppingBasket · 02/10/2021 16:51

"DP's need to micromanage my children and his insistence that they behave badly. I feel like I'm on tenterhooks all the time, waiting for something to kick off and I'm stuck in the middle trying to mediate the drama."

"If I don't then I guess I have to keep him separate from my family, I can't risk him screwing my kids up with his controlling behaviour."

I think you have answered your own question with the 2 points above.

Keepitonthedownlow · 02/10/2021 16:51

Well done, you've shown a great example to your children of having self respect and boundaries. When they're older they'll appreciate your actions all the more.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 02/10/2021 16:58

@user124765

Well that was awful. He twisted everything around to make it my fault and accused me of being a bad mother, amongst other things. I didn't say a lot, other than to just repeat that I know the truth and that it's over, nothing to discuss. I'm not going to lie though, I'm absolutely gutted that he ripped my parenting to shreds like that.
Try and look on it as a positive - he proved to you at that moment that he is a despicable piece of work who wanted to destroy you and your children. So there's no doubt to be had - it was absolutely the right thing to trust your instincts and get rid, block him on everything and write him off as somebody who wasn't good enough for you.

I think that you will feel better in the morning when you've had some sleep and you wake up knowing that he won't be glowering in a corner of the your sofa, waiting for his first opportunity of the day to attack your babies.

Disfordarkchocolate · 02/10/2021 17:02

He's just annoyed you managed to dump him first @user124765.

RosieLeaLovesTea · 02/10/2021 17:03

End it, end it, end it.
Don’t look back.
Thank god he did not move in. You would have been constantly refereeing the arguments and the constant criticism of their behaviour. He is not cut out to be step dad. You would never have any peace and always in the middle.

pictish · 02/10/2021 17:09

What the fuck would he know? Seriously…on what authority does he have parenting all sewn up? None, that’s what.
Ignore him…he’s sour because he wanted to be your favourite and most important baby.

MiddleClassProblem · 02/10/2021 17:11

@user124765

Well that was awful. He twisted everything around to make it my fault and accused me of being a bad mother, amongst other things. I didn't say a lot, other than to just repeat that I know the truth and that it's over, nothing to discuss. I'm not going to lie though, I'm absolutely gutted that he ripped my parenting to shreds like that.
Well, now I hope you know he’s not just bad for your kids but you too.
TumtumTree · 02/10/2021 17:22

Hope you're ok OP Brew

youvegottenminuteslynn · 02/10/2021 17:24

What a fucking prick he is.

You're not a bad mum - case in point, you put them first by dumping an arsehole who makes them feel unable to be themselves! That's good parenting.

Try to think of his behaviour today as positive in a way - it's proof you've absolutely done the right thing and great it happened before he moved in.

Watch a fun movie with the kids tonight and really enjoy them, watch them be silly and crazy and totally themselves and relish in the fact they are fun, happy kids. You did that.

Jennifer11 · 02/10/2021 17:29

I definitely think you've done the right thing. You felt relieved when he left and that says it all.

BiLuminous · 02/10/2021 17:45

So sorry he said those things to you OP. I'm not surprised sadly. I'm glad he's showing you his true colours whilst on his way out rather than when you let him move in.

Well done. You are not a bad parent, he is just a hurt man trying to hurt you. This break up was for the children, how does that make you a bad one?

Hugs x

Elllbell · 02/10/2021 17:48

You sound like a wonderful mum. He's literally just throwing his toys out the pram and has shown you his true colours.

Jux · 02/10/2021 17:59

Well done! Even if you'd managed to keep him away from the children (and you wouldn't have been able to, he wouldn't have let you) he'd have affected their lives through affecting yours.

You've done a brave brave thing, very hard to do. It was the right thing. You are now free to meet a man who is right, instead of being stuck with one who is most definitely wrong.

He had a bullying father who fucked up his kids, and he is a bullying son who would have fucked up your kids.

Budapestdreams · 02/10/2021 18:00

You're an excellent mum. You put your children first and are teaching them great boundaries and self respect.

Great job!

pompomsgalore · 02/10/2021 18:09

Well you've proven what a great mum you are just in this thread.

Lots of us have asked here...does he have kids himself? We are all assuming no.

HermioneAndRoger · 02/10/2021 18:13

@user124765

Well that was awful. He twisted everything around to make it my fault and accused me of being a bad mother, amongst other things. I didn't say a lot, other than to just repeat that I know the truth and that it's over, nothing to discuss. I'm not going to lie though, I'm absolutely gutted that he ripped my parenting to shreds like that.
He's showed you his true colours and you have had a lucky escape. I know that you feel awful right now but remember that he will never now be able to make your children feel like that because you acted decisively and in their best interests. You sound like a terrific mum.
GrandmasCat · 02/10/2021 18:13

Interesting that he didn’t try to get a resolution, find a middle point or offering to adapt himself a bit.

Bullet well dodged OP, if that is the way he behaves when he wants you back, the biggest the distance the better.

Well done, it will hurt for a while but, things happen for a reason. He would have been less help than hindrance.

StrongLegs · 02/10/2021 18:14

I think you did the right thing to send him away. He doesn't sounds as though he was going to fit in in your extremely lovely and healthy family. Well done. I think you should break up with him completely now.

Feelslikealot · 02/10/2021 18:14

Don't feel bad about what he said. A) he's proven he ain't got a fucking clue about parenting or children and b) he was upset you'd broken up with him. People say stupid things when they're upset. Lucky escape.

Dolphinnoises · 02/10/2021 18:26

Bloody well done - you are an awesome mother. Some of the saddest threads on here start just like yours and end with the OP insulting posters, self-gaslighting and sticking her head in the sand. Your children will have happier lives because of the decisions you have taken today.

isadoradancing123 · 02/10/2021 18:27

No way would i let him move in with my children, he will make their lives a misery

Winecrispschocolatecats · 02/10/2021 18:57

I'm so sorry that things didn't work out as you'd hoped, but so relieved and proud of you for recognising the red flags and taking action to protect your family. I spent my childhood walking on eggshells and it's a horrible, exhausting way to live - if you felt like that even before he'd moved in, imagine how much worse it would have been a few months down the line.

It sounds like you're a fantastic parent with 3 wonderfully lively, engaged, totally normal kids. It also sounds as if you've dodged a bullet, however tough it feels on you all now. Hugs.

billy1966 · 02/10/2021 19:41

Well now you know the truth.

When you feel sad, think of the damage scum like him could have done to your children.

He was not a good man to have around your children.

Be thankful you found out.Flowers

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