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To think this is relatively normal behaviour for children?

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user124765 · 01/10/2021 23:27

Name changed for this, and also posting here for traffic.

I have three children from my marriage that ended a few years back. They are aged 10, 8 and 5. No learning issues with the kids or anything else to note, they are (to my mind) all NT.

The issue is that DP (who is hoping to live with us very soon) seems to take constant issue with their behaviour. This evening the children were upstairs getting ready for bed and I'd asked my 8 year old to have a quick shower before he brushed his teeth etc. We've just moved in to this house in the last few days so everything is quite new and different for the kids. I turned the shower on and checked it was the correct temperature for him before I left the bathroom instructing him to wash his body and not worry about his hair for tonight.
I get downstairs and sit on the sofa next to DP and almost immediately DS shouts 'Mummy!' from upstairs. I get up and head up to see what he needs, but he can't hear my reply to hang on... I'm coming, because of the noise of the shower so continues yelling 'Mummy!' and getting increasingly louder.
Once I've sorted DS out, which takes about 3 minutes, I head back downstairs and take my place back on the sofa. Immediately DP starts having a go at me about 'letting him talk to you like shit'. His tone is quite aggressive actually and I just feel like a bit of support from him rather than a bollocking for lacking as a parent wouldn't go amiss at this stage.

It's almost constant now, whenever we're together as a 'family'. DP's need to micromanage my children and his insistence that they behave badly. I feel like I'm on tenterhooks all the time, waiting for something to kick off and I'm stuck in the middle trying to mediate the drama.
The kids are fine! They are children and full of joy and they do get excited from time to time. They sometimes push boundaries and behave badly...but isn't that normal? I feel like he's trying to turn my kids in to what he believes children should behave like, when as someone who's never had children himself he just doesn't know how kids really are!

Tonight I just lost my shit a bit and told him that I refuse to live my life walking on egg shells and I'm not going to change my parenting to suit him. I choose my children, every time. He said something like 'do you want me to fuck off then?' to which I replied that yes, him going home would probably be for the best right now. He was visibly upset and stormed out slamming the door behind him. He called me a 'fucking prick' under his breath too, which shocked me. That in itself is unforgivable to me I think. I felt sad when he'd gone but also incredibly relieved.

But now what? Do I end this? If I don't then I guess I have to keep him separate from my family, I can't risk him screwing my kids up with his controlling behaviour. Or is it me? 🤷‍♀️ Is he right that my children need pulling up on this behaviour. I just think it's normal...but who knows? Giggling in restaurants, being daft at bedtime when they've been told to settle down, shouting Mummy! over and over until you drop everything and go running. Isn't this all normal?

OP posts:
TrueGrit54 · 02/10/2021 15:44

Also, if he has/had a key change the locks for peace of mind.

Firetimeagain · 02/10/2021 15:45

user124765 No. You are not a bad mother. I can tell that from what you've written here alone. Even just the shower thing, you put your child first.

It is far better to err on the side of "too relaxed" (provided they're not hurting other kids but why would they if they are happy?) than too strict.

He is hurting OP; his pride is hurt too. He was bullied by his parent and so he is lashing out.

You have done the right thing. It's sad but it would only get worse.

Wrt your earlier post when you explained to your kids that he wouldn't be coming back, I think their reaction was just a response to change. It will take them no time at all to get used to him not being there.

Wish you happiness in your new home, kids' school and so on, and congratulations on having one less stress in your life.

Tempusfudgeit · 02/10/2021 15:46

My mother overlooked my stepfather 's issues and I'm still mentally damaged by it 40 years later. Thank God your children won't be forced to share their safe place with an unpleasant man. Onwards, OP.

ClemDanFango · 02/10/2021 15:48

His continued cunt behaviour just confirms you’ve done the right thing. He knows NOTHING about children or being a parent so his opinion is completely ignorant and not worth the breath he wasted on it. You’ve done the right thing OP. He’s lashing out because he’s been dumped and in the process shown his true colours. Block the bastard.

YukoandHiro · 02/10/2021 15:50

It's totally normal... it doesn't sound like he's ready for family life at all. I think you need to have a serious chat with him about his expectations. Maybe this isn't for him after all - better to know now rather than having an upsetting split for the kids to deal with months or years after moving in

Nillynally · 02/10/2021 15:53

My mum married a man who would shout at us to stop messing around if we were giggling or having fun. It wasn't a pleasant way to grow up. Tell him to eff off and not bother coming back

Weirdlynormal · 02/10/2021 15:53

Well done OP. I wish more people would put their kids above their new partners. He sounds controlling and a bit of a twat to boot, but it must still have been hard.

Beautiful3 · 02/10/2021 15:57

Don't listen to him, he's twisting it around because he's deflecting. He finds it easier to blame you rather than admit he was being mean to your children. You are a wonderful and protective mother, your actions prove this.

Thinkingthinking · 02/10/2021 15:59

OMG LTB, I was your child once and my mother had a horrible gaslighter boyfriend who thought it was unacceptable I should behave like a child - things like waking up at 7am on Christmas Day aged 6 Sad You and your children deserve better.

autummvibes · 02/10/2021 16:00

I've come to this late but bloody well done. Odcourse he's been personal to your parenting, he's on the defensive. Good parents put their children first. This is exactly what you have done. Thank you. So many people choose a shit life for their kids. It's refreshing to see someone do the right thing by them.

I can guarantee he won't go away quietly now. You'll recieve some beautiful messages to try and pull you back in. When it doesn't work he'll turn nasty again.

Just remember don't be fooled. Your kids come first every single time. No matter what he promises now he's shown you what you'll be subjecting them to if you allow him back in for "one more chance". Never give him the chance to screw with you. You've got this.

EspressoDoubleShot · 02/10/2021 16:04

He’s actually showed you who he is,in anger people are truthful. It just falls out of them. He’s tried to control you and your kids. In anger he’s revealed true feelings

Indoctro · 02/10/2021 16:05

Does he have kids.?

As people who don't I find sometimes think kids should behave like adults and when they are being kids it irritates them , that's fine it can be annoying but you need to be tolerant of kids

I don't think he is suited to playing step dad to 3 kids personally

You guys are better off a part for all of your happiness

Whatabambam · 02/10/2021 16:07

You sound bloody lovely OP and strong and instinctual. You absolutely did the right thing. Wishing you the best of everything and a decent man who adds joy to your life

MrsIsobelCrawley · 02/10/2021 16:15

I know you feel gutted at the moment but, in years to come, you will look on this as a very lucky escape.

Whatamesssss · 02/10/2021 16:16

Of course you're a bad mother and the worst parent in the whole world, any other explanation would mean he has to take responsibility for his own behaviour.

Thank god you found out before you moved in together.

Flowers
MzHz · 02/10/2021 16:16

You’re not a bad mother @user124765, that’s him projecting because he’s shown himself to be a poor father figure, damaged and damaging.

Your eldest brought you a cuppa. You’ve raised a child to be kind and caring right there.

Please pay no attention on what this now ex has said. He’s talking about himself, not you

FWBNC · 02/10/2021 16:22

@user124765

I'm sorry you're upset & the kids are upset, but it's definitely better (in the long run) got all of you. Your kids are too young to understand a) how much you're already protecting them from him & b) hiw this would get worse if he moved him/how badly that would affect them.

Look at today, he had no respect for you saying you didn't want him there. Other arrangements could have been made re the items.

Despite being sad YOU felt relief that you & the kids could 'be yourselves' that tells you an awful lot!

Let the kids be a bit sad, if they still are, but don't let that make you feel like you've done the wrong thing, you haven't!

For a man that says he loves you, he treats you like shit. A man that wants to make it work, doesn't slate your parenting!

Enjoy your FREEDOM!!

What are you & the kids going to do tonight & tomorrow?

How about something they'd love & he would have hated? Like indoor camping in the lounge, movies, snacks & no 'bedtime' tonight & something fun tomorrow? Are you renting or have you bought the house? Can you paint one of the kids rooms? If not make some 'autumn art' together. Anything really, just something fun together?! Painting empty packing boxes.

MaeD · 02/10/2021 16:23

What an immature nasty fuckwit. He’s really tried to hit you where it hurts hasn’t be? You’re extremely well rid and good that he’s been stupid enough to let out such a nasty streak today. Don’t let him dent your confidence, he sounds jealous of your kids to me and resentful of them taking up your energy. Trying to twist it around and make it your fault plus telling you you’re a bad mother is a low blow. You’ve had a lucky escape and so have your kids.

FuckingFabulous · 02/10/2021 16:29

It's infuriating when someone who knows fuck all about something tries to tell you how you're doing it wrong. You'd have had that from dawn til dusk if he'd moved in. Your kids have dodged a massive bastard bullet and so have you. Well done. Do not go back on it

KurtWilde · 02/10/2021 16:30

I'm so sorry OP, I've been on the receiving end of that with exh constantly questioning my parenting of my older DC - who aren't his. I knew the truth though. He's trying to hit you where it hurts. Absolutely beyond horrible.

Dentistlakes · 02/10/2021 16:35

Unfortunately it sounds as if he’s not suited to family life. Your kids are behaving like kids. If i were you I would end it now. He isn’t going to improve and you run the risk of harming your children if he sticks around.

longtompot · 02/10/2021 16:37

As awful as that was I'm glad he still showed you who he was to the very end. Keep that in mind when you waver. Reread the pp who wished they had left before they did, and know you have done the right thing at the right time Flowers Wine

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 02/10/2021 16:39

You're the furthest thing from a bad mother, what you are is resistant to his manipulation and bullying. He's put time and effort into training you to put him first and you have recognised him for the parasite that he is. He's furious and saying the most hurtful thing he can think of, but in fact your thoughts and actions show that you are a great mum.

RowanAlong · 02/10/2021 16:45

I’d run! Your kids are fine! Don’t let him in to undermine you and make you doubt yourself.

Thesummeriwas16 · 02/10/2021 16:46

Just had to come on and say well done! I grew up with a verbally abusive stepfather and it really has scarred me for life. Well done for putting your children first you brilliant mum! xx

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