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To think this is relatively normal behaviour for children?

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user124765 · 01/10/2021 23:27

Name changed for this, and also posting here for traffic.

I have three children from my marriage that ended a few years back. They are aged 10, 8 and 5. No learning issues with the kids or anything else to note, they are (to my mind) all NT.

The issue is that DP (who is hoping to live with us very soon) seems to take constant issue with their behaviour. This evening the children were upstairs getting ready for bed and I'd asked my 8 year old to have a quick shower before he brushed his teeth etc. We've just moved in to this house in the last few days so everything is quite new and different for the kids. I turned the shower on and checked it was the correct temperature for him before I left the bathroom instructing him to wash his body and not worry about his hair for tonight.
I get downstairs and sit on the sofa next to DP and almost immediately DS shouts 'Mummy!' from upstairs. I get up and head up to see what he needs, but he can't hear my reply to hang on... I'm coming, because of the noise of the shower so continues yelling 'Mummy!' and getting increasingly louder.
Once I've sorted DS out, which takes about 3 minutes, I head back downstairs and take my place back on the sofa. Immediately DP starts having a go at me about 'letting him talk to you like shit'. His tone is quite aggressive actually and I just feel like a bit of support from him rather than a bollocking for lacking as a parent wouldn't go amiss at this stage.

It's almost constant now, whenever we're together as a 'family'. DP's need to micromanage my children and his insistence that they behave badly. I feel like I'm on tenterhooks all the time, waiting for something to kick off and I'm stuck in the middle trying to mediate the drama.
The kids are fine! They are children and full of joy and they do get excited from time to time. They sometimes push boundaries and behave badly...but isn't that normal? I feel like he's trying to turn my kids in to what he believes children should behave like, when as someone who's never had children himself he just doesn't know how kids really are!

Tonight I just lost my shit a bit and told him that I refuse to live my life walking on egg shells and I'm not going to change my parenting to suit him. I choose my children, every time. He said something like 'do you want me to fuck off then?' to which I replied that yes, him going home would probably be for the best right now. He was visibly upset and stormed out slamming the door behind him. He called me a 'fucking prick' under his breath too, which shocked me. That in itself is unforgivable to me I think. I felt sad when he'd gone but also incredibly relieved.

But now what? Do I end this? If I don't then I guess I have to keep him separate from my family, I can't risk him screwing my kids up with his controlling behaviour. Or is it me? 🤷‍♀️ Is he right that my children need pulling up on this behaviour. I just think it's normal...but who knows? Giggling in restaurants, being daft at bedtime when they've been told to settle down, shouting Mummy! over and over until you drop everything and go running. Isn't this all normal?

OP posts:
trappedsincesundaymorn · 02/10/2021 11:20

You're well rid of him. If he is acting like a twat towards you and your children now, think how bad it would have been once they hit the "teenage attitude" years.

TableFlowerss · 02/10/2021 11:27

I wouldn’t let him move in!! Your kids doing perfectly fine

DismantledKing · 02/10/2021 11:31

Why don’t people read any updates by the OP before replying? It’s not just this thread either.

Thighdentitycrisis · 02/10/2021 11:35

I didn’t even read past the first couple of paragraphs OP

He is competing for your attention- run a mile

ChargingBuck · 02/10/2021 11:37

But now what? Do I end this? If I don't then I guess I have to keep him separate from my family, I can't risk him screwing my kids up with his controlling behaviour. Or is it me?

Of course it's not you.

And of course you end it.
As you say, you can't risk him screwing up your kids.
You also can't risk him screwing up lovely YOU.

Your soon-to-be-Ex man's mask slipped, because he thought he was well on the way to moving in with you, & started to act like the cock of the walk he thinks he is.

His attitude to your children is exactly the same as his attitude to you - he thinks HE gets to call the shots, HE gets to criticise your parenting ... in short, he thinks he is the boss of you.

You will never engineer a situation where he isn't in a power struggle with you now. Look at how he behaved when you stood up to him. He has just shown you he cannot be trusted, he cannot respect you, & he will get nasty if you refuse to kowtow.

I'd say he's just qualified his way out of your life, wouldn't you?
Keep him gone.

ChargingBuck · 02/10/2021 11:39

insists that I'm parenting all wrong

& he has exactly how many children?
How much parenting experience?
Is he a paediatrician, or child psychologist?

I'd sack him off for the mansplaining alone ...
How fucking DARE he tell you how to parent your own kids?

Alicenwonderland · 02/10/2021 11:43

Well done OP!! You are an amazingly strong woman and fantastic mum! Regarding the kids crying, mine were the same whenever my ex and I had a break. They'd say they missed him and wanted him back. Now they're older they said they worried we wouldn't be able to afford the house without him and also he was good at I.T which I'm not! Be prepared that he may try and get you back, making promises to change. It'll be BS, mine always did that and each time he'd be worse, not better.

ChargingBuck · 02/10/2021 11:46

Ha ha ha OP, congratulations.

And especially well done for not sugar-coating it to the kids.
That was a great lesson for your little coffee-bringer & her siblings :) xx

KurtWilde · 02/10/2021 11:51

You did well being so open and honest with your DC, OP. I hope all goes smoothly when he drops your possessions off.

Jenufer · 02/10/2021 11:53

@Merryoldgoat

But now what? Do I end this?

Fuck yes.

It's a yes from me, too.
Chloemol · 02/10/2021 12:01

It’s normal, he is not

Don’t move in with him

Dolphinnoises · 02/10/2021 12:04

You’ve taught your kids a great lesson about how much they mean to you, and to value themselves. Don’t let him worm his way back in

Snowisfallinghere · 02/10/2021 12:05

My parents divorced when I was 6 and between then and age 10 my mum had a couple of boyfriends before settling down with my stepdad. I would have been absolutely devastated if she chose a man who behaved like this. I mean, having an arsehole/unkind stepdad figure in your life as a child is not just disappointing, but a life-changing, childhood-ruining level of devastation.

magictoadstool · 02/10/2021 12:07

You are amazing! I wish my mum had been like you when I was younger - maybe we’d actually speak now Grinit escalated to the point where he kicked me out - and that’s always what these men are going for, they want you all to themselves to do what they want with.

Top marks to you, and I hope you and your brood enjoy your new home!

Ireolu · 02/10/2021 12:09

Well done for telling him to go. What a grump!

Crikeycroc · 02/10/2021 12:12

You are definitely doing the right thing. It would be impossible for a man with such an outlook to change so drastically that he wouldn’t harm your children in the long term.

Reading your OP, I kept thinking you should take your ‘D’P’s advice and stop letting him talk to you like shit!

Tal45 · 02/10/2021 12:13

Other people's kids always seem much more annoying than your own. You have to be pretty special, tolerant and patient to take on someone elses IMO. I don't think I could do it now and it really doesn't sound like he can. I think it would be better to end this now.

MaeD · 02/10/2021 12:13

I think children can find change hard. Sounds like you’ve had some nice times with him and they probably do like aspects of him. But it’s interesting they saw what you were saying and they do feel they can’t be themselves around him. Right now they are having to make an adjustment from his presence and thinking he’d move in, just like you are so they are bound to have mixed feelings, I doubt the mixed feelings will last for long though.

3luckystars · 02/10/2021 12:13

Well done. It must be hard when you previously liked him, but as soon as he said anything negative about your children, it was a simple decision then. Simple but not easy.
Well done on putting your children first. Look after yourself x

Notaroadrunner · 02/10/2021 12:14

Well done - I love that you told him you love yourself and your dc more than him - that is what kids need. You and they will get past this and your home will be a much happier environment for you all from now on.

Lovemusic33 · 02/10/2021 12:15

Well done for ditching him OP and telling the kids why.

After all the stuff in the media about men being abusive towards women and people asking “how can I make sure my sons don’t abuse”, this is the best example at what parents should be doing. Showing them that is in way expectable to allow a man to make you feel uncomfortable in your own home, that your kids come first.

AhNowTed · 02/10/2021 12:32

Well done OP.

God is there no end to these pricks throwing their weight around.

EmotionalSupportBear · 02/10/2021 12:32

you metioned he had a bully for a father in one of your posts.

Do you think he's trying to parent your kids how he was parented? Might be a case that if he was raised by a bully who believed kids should be seen and not heard that he believes the same where your kids are concerned.

Either way, you're better off rid of him because those kind of people rarely soften/come around. I had similar issues with my ex, i'm a much more gentle parent, but my kids know where my boundaries are and my expectations.. but i did a lot of parenting to appease my ex's expectations, rather than my own.

We're a lot happier without him.

Viviennemary · 02/10/2021 12:32

This is never going to work. Its hopless. Kids are a pain at times. Thats normal.

aSofaNearYou · 02/10/2021 12:36

@3luckystars

Well done. It must be hard when you previously liked him, but as soon as he said anything negative about your children, it was a simple decision then. Simple but not easy. Well done on putting your children first. Look after yourself x
"As soon as he said anything negative about your children"? That's way too harsh and unrealistic.
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