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To think this is relatively normal behaviour for children?

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user124765 · 01/10/2021 23:27

Name changed for this, and also posting here for traffic.

I have three children from my marriage that ended a few years back. They are aged 10, 8 and 5. No learning issues with the kids or anything else to note, they are (to my mind) all NT.

The issue is that DP (who is hoping to live with us very soon) seems to take constant issue with their behaviour. This evening the children were upstairs getting ready for bed and I'd asked my 8 year old to have a quick shower before he brushed his teeth etc. We've just moved in to this house in the last few days so everything is quite new and different for the kids. I turned the shower on and checked it was the correct temperature for him before I left the bathroom instructing him to wash his body and not worry about his hair for tonight.
I get downstairs and sit on the sofa next to DP and almost immediately DS shouts 'Mummy!' from upstairs. I get up and head up to see what he needs, but he can't hear my reply to hang on... I'm coming, because of the noise of the shower so continues yelling 'Mummy!' and getting increasingly louder.
Once I've sorted DS out, which takes about 3 minutes, I head back downstairs and take my place back on the sofa. Immediately DP starts having a go at me about 'letting him talk to you like shit'. His tone is quite aggressive actually and I just feel like a bit of support from him rather than a bollocking for lacking as a parent wouldn't go amiss at this stage.

It's almost constant now, whenever we're together as a 'family'. DP's need to micromanage my children and his insistence that they behave badly. I feel like I'm on tenterhooks all the time, waiting for something to kick off and I'm stuck in the middle trying to mediate the drama.
The kids are fine! They are children and full of joy and they do get excited from time to time. They sometimes push boundaries and behave badly...but isn't that normal? I feel like he's trying to turn my kids in to what he believes children should behave like, when as someone who's never had children himself he just doesn't know how kids really are!

Tonight I just lost my shit a bit and told him that I refuse to live my life walking on egg shells and I'm not going to change my parenting to suit him. I choose my children, every time. He said something like 'do you want me to fuck off then?' to which I replied that yes, him going home would probably be for the best right now. He was visibly upset and stormed out slamming the door behind him. He called me a 'fucking prick' under his breath too, which shocked me. That in itself is unforgivable to me I think. I felt sad when he'd gone but also incredibly relieved.

But now what? Do I end this? If I don't then I guess I have to keep him separate from my family, I can't risk him screwing my kids up with his controlling behaviour. Or is it me? 🤷‍♀️ Is he right that my children need pulling up on this behaviour. I just think it's normal...but who knows? Giggling in restaurants, being daft at bedtime when they've been told to settle down, shouting Mummy! over and over until you drop everything and go running. Isn't this all normal?

OP posts:
Wnikat · 02/10/2021 12:37

Run. For. The. Hills.

zoemum2006 · 02/10/2021 12:38

The problem is him. Even if there was an issue with your kids there are loads of positive ways to discuss it. He becomes quickly aggressive? Just no.

I'm sorry OP, you're right to end it. No one needs to live with aggression.

BelindaCinder · 02/10/2021 12:40

Glad there’s a happy ending! I was starting to think about ‘Fanny and Alexander’
Well done!

DeepaBeesKit · 02/10/2021 12:42

It sounds normal but my friend would describe her kids as you describe yours. However to me they seem feral and lacking boundaries. What she sees as excitement and cheekiness I see as them being utterly unable to hear the word no, ignoring basically all instructions and back chatting her a lot.

AhNowTed · 02/10/2021 12:50

@DeepaBeesKit

It sounds normal but my friend would describe her kids as you describe yours. However to me they seem feral and lacking boundaries. What she sees as excitement and cheekiness I see as them being utterly unable to hear the word no, ignoring basically all instructions and back chatting her a lot.

That's as maybe, but it's not for some mere boyfriend to start throwing his weight around, creating an atmosphere and criticising the children and her parenting. He can fuck off.

GrandmasCat · 02/10/2021 12:50

Op… if he is getting irritated about these things when you don’t live together, it would turn much worse when he is a “ paying member of the household”.

Slow the moving together plans for a bit longer, at least.

SylvanasWindrunner · 02/10/2021 12:56

Well done, OP! Look after yourself Thanks

Sparklfairy · 02/10/2021 12:56

Unfortunately he has reminded me that he has something which belongs to me that I'll be needing today, so he's going to bring it over sometime today. I didn't reply. I know he'll turn up but I'll just get my possessions off him and shut the door in his face.

How was the tone of his message? The 'he's going to bring it over today' if it was done in a kind of dismissive, 'telling' you what's happening way would annoy me. I hope he doesn't think he can steamroll his way back into your good books.

tiggerwhocamefortea · 02/10/2021 12:58

@DeepaBeesKit

It sounds normal but my friend would describe her kids as you describe yours. However to me they seem feral and lacking boundaries. What she sees as excitement and cheekiness I see as them being utterly unable to hear the word no, ignoring basically all instructions and back chatting her a lot.

I agree

It's a lot a DP moving in with 3 kids - yelling "mummy" over and over to an outsider would probably sound aggressive

I find mums always get really sensitive on MN about anyone daring to question either their parenting or their kids especially from a "step" parent / partner they have introduced so the chap is on a hiding to nothing here

SnapCackleFlop · 02/10/2021 13:06

I think you sound really brave and seem like a great mum. Your children are lucky to have you. 💐🍰☕️Xx

dottiedodah · 02/10/2021 13:11

TBH I think this will not work out .He doesnt have DC does he? Blended families may work if DP has DC of his own .In this case he doesnt and it will only get worse .It sounds like DP wants you to sit on the Sofa with him like a young childfree couple .This wont go well as they get older , I would look for someone more mature .

dottiedodah · 02/10/2021 13:31

Well done for ending it OP.Thing is most RL take lots of work even without DC .If you had lived together it would have impacted greatly on your happiness as a family . Sending hugs you have done the right thing OP

goldfinchfan · 02/10/2021 13:34

Please do not let him move in.
My DD married a man like this and we are still living with the effect he had on her DD from a diff father and she is now in her twenties.

He is controlling and won't change now. he will make you and your kids miserable.

SuperCaliFragalistic · 02/10/2021 13:38

Well done OP and frankly your children's behaviour isn't the issue here. Even if they were feral and badly behaved you are clearly happy with how they are and his views are irrelevant. Him being aggressive and demanding about your parenting is a massive NO from me. Enjoy your life with your DC, they'll grow up too soon and you'll have decades to meet new men and enjoy your single life.

goldfinchfan · 02/10/2021 13:40

Sorry I didn't read the thread before responding.
Am happy for you ending the relationship.
WELL DONE YOU

kitcat15 · 02/10/2021 13:44

I don't think you need anyone on MN to tell you what to do....you know

oakleydo · 02/10/2021 13:46

Wow! Brave and decisive. Well done: I couldn't have been that strong. You have to trust your instincts

avocadotofu · 02/10/2021 13:48

You've definitely done the right thing OP! It's so lovely to read that you've put your lovely children first!

GabriellaMontez · 02/10/2021 13:49

Well done. You've dodged a bullet. Lucky children.

Sorry, some poster always has to come on and put the boot in on one of these threads. Ignore.

TartanJumper · 02/10/2021 13:50

It's normal.
Don't let him move in with you, these issues will only get worse if he is there 24/7.

TartanJumper · 02/10/2021 13:51

Sorry didn't see there were more pages (idiot!)
Well done OP! Your children will thank you for it.

LuaDipa · 02/10/2021 13:53

You have made the right decision, please don’t let him worm his way back in.

BoredZelda · 02/10/2021 13:54

Glad you’ve seen sense.

It really doesn’t matter whether your children are actually well behaved or not. They could be the devil incarnate. If you are raising your children I’m a way you think is fine, then no partner can just come on the scene and have a go at you for how you are raising them.

mathanxiety · 02/10/2021 13:56

Unfortunately he has reminded me that he has something which belongs to me that I'll be needing today, so he's going to bring it over sometime today. I didn't reply. I know he'll turn up but I'll just get my possessions off him and shut the door in his face.

I may be too late to post this, but can you meet him for the handover in a neutral place (local McDonalds, etc) or have a friend come to your home to stand beside you and tell him 'Goodbye now' when you get your item back?

He wants to change your mind. Don't let him.

Ontheblink · 02/10/2021 14:13

Your sounds like a normal, loving home with absolutely normal behaviour from children of that age. He, however sounds like a selfish prick who will eventually end up destroying your relationship with your children and subsequently their self-esteem. Please get rid of him.