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To think this is relatively normal behaviour for children?

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user124765 · 01/10/2021 23:27

Name changed for this, and also posting here for traffic.

I have three children from my marriage that ended a few years back. They are aged 10, 8 and 5. No learning issues with the kids or anything else to note, they are (to my mind) all NT.

The issue is that DP (who is hoping to live with us very soon) seems to take constant issue with their behaviour. This evening the children were upstairs getting ready for bed and I'd asked my 8 year old to have a quick shower before he brushed his teeth etc. We've just moved in to this house in the last few days so everything is quite new and different for the kids. I turned the shower on and checked it was the correct temperature for him before I left the bathroom instructing him to wash his body and not worry about his hair for tonight.
I get downstairs and sit on the sofa next to DP and almost immediately DS shouts 'Mummy!' from upstairs. I get up and head up to see what he needs, but he can't hear my reply to hang on... I'm coming, because of the noise of the shower so continues yelling 'Mummy!' and getting increasingly louder.
Once I've sorted DS out, which takes about 3 minutes, I head back downstairs and take my place back on the sofa. Immediately DP starts having a go at me about 'letting him talk to you like shit'. His tone is quite aggressive actually and I just feel like a bit of support from him rather than a bollocking for lacking as a parent wouldn't go amiss at this stage.

It's almost constant now, whenever we're together as a 'family'. DP's need to micromanage my children and his insistence that they behave badly. I feel like I'm on tenterhooks all the time, waiting for something to kick off and I'm stuck in the middle trying to mediate the drama.
The kids are fine! They are children and full of joy and they do get excited from time to time. They sometimes push boundaries and behave badly...but isn't that normal? I feel like he's trying to turn my kids in to what he believes children should behave like, when as someone who's never had children himself he just doesn't know how kids really are!

Tonight I just lost my shit a bit and told him that I refuse to live my life walking on egg shells and I'm not going to change my parenting to suit him. I choose my children, every time. He said something like 'do you want me to fuck off then?' to which I replied that yes, him going home would probably be for the best right now. He was visibly upset and stormed out slamming the door behind him. He called me a 'fucking prick' under his breath too, which shocked me. That in itself is unforgivable to me I think. I felt sad when he'd gone but also incredibly relieved.

But now what? Do I end this? If I don't then I guess I have to keep him separate from my family, I can't risk him screwing my kids up with his controlling behaviour. Or is it me? 🤷‍♀️ Is he right that my children need pulling up on this behaviour. I just think it's normal...but who knows? Giggling in restaurants, being daft at bedtime when they've been told to settle down, shouting Mummy! over and over until you drop everything and go running. Isn't this all normal?

OP posts:
TonTonMacoute · 02/10/2021 09:45

I'm sorry OP, the relationship obviously had a lot of positives if he was about to move in with you, but I think you have definitely done the right thing.

💐

DarkDarkNight · 02/10/2021 09:46

Glad that you have ended it.

Your children are entitled to behave like children. Him living with you as a family would be a recipe for disaster and would just get worse as they get older.

Orla1970 · 02/10/2021 09:46

Well done for ending it OP. You and your children deserve better than this. If he moved in I think his behaviour would escalate in quite a sinister way and you and your children would be miserable. You sound a great mum and your kids sound like they have a great relationship with you. Good luck x

me4real · 02/10/2021 09:52

Well done @user124765 xx

Coconuttts · 02/10/2021 09:52

Your kids are normal! Also, if he reacts like this now, God help him when the teenage years kick in! Put him in his place and let him go now - you deserve someone who will be a partner.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 02/10/2021 09:54

Well done for ending it OP. I was in this situation as a teen with my stepdad and I wish my mum had put me first like you have done. It's one of the reasons I myself will never move a partner into my home.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 02/10/2021 09:55

I didn't even finish reading your post. I got as far as him "micromanaging your kids" and was irate straight off. Then I read the rest AngryShock

Yes, you do need him to fuck off. Especially if HE is going to talk to you like that, after taking issue with the way your kids talk to you (normal, by the sounds of it).
Get rid of him.
He doesn't like your kids, he will be a bad stepfather and you should choose them over him permanently.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 02/10/2021 09:58

OK, I've read your updates now - I hope he takes you at your word but I expect he'll turn up tomorrow wanting to Have That Talk anyway.

I hope you stay strong and say that you're done with him.

Wren77 · 02/10/2021 09:58

Well done OP - I only read your first post and came straight to the end hoping for this outcome. He sounded absolutely awful!

BraveGoldie · 02/10/2021 09:59

Well done for ending it OP.

The question of whether your kids are normal is a distraction. I am sure they are. But the point is even if your kids had behavioural problems, how would 'the right' man deal with that? With compassion and caring for the kids, and respect and support for you. Perhaps some gentle coaching if you were open to that... or perhaps by stepping up and taking over all the housework and maintenance so you were less exhausted and could focus more on the kids.

This guy's behaviour towards you was awful and he obviously sees the kids as an inconvenience.... and that could never be happy.

Well done for ending it. You and the kids deserve so much better.

And better really is out there. My DP is incredibly wonderful with my DD. He is from a different culture that is much stricter with kids, but he hasn't once imposed his style and judged or disrespected me or intervened with my parenting. He appreciates my DD for who she is. He has respectfully expressed some of his surprise at how I do things, and also expressed that he is seeing the benefits if it and learning from it....I have sometimes asked him for advice which he has gently given and I have been totally free to take it or not. And he has kids (one of them SEN)! The arrogance of a guy with no kids thinking he gets to disrespect your parenting!!!

DP engages sincerely and warmly with my DD, and I know she feels her life is way better with him in it and loves him (after four years). She won't hesitate to reach out to him for help. She literally did cartwheels when I asked her how she would feel about him moving in. I think your kids probably wouldn't feel that.

There is better out there and you and the kids deserve that! Stick to your decision- I am sure it's the right one.

Lockeddownagain · 02/10/2021 09:59

That's sounds scary. My daughter I 8 and shouts for me from the minute she wakes till she goes to sleep. It's just normal yours partner's behaviour is far from normal I know what one I would be changing

user124765 · 02/10/2021 10:01

Morning all. In the end I slept ok and woke up to my eldest bringing me a cup of coffee in bed. She asked me where xxxxx is and I told her to go downstairs and grab her brother and sister.

Kids are funny things, aren't they? I told them that he's not coming back because I can see that he's making our household an unhappy one. Cue lots of tears...'but I want him here' type remarks etc. I said 'does he make you feel afraid to be yourself sometimes? Like you might get in trouble and you have to behave differently?' They all said a firm yes. So why would they want him around? Very strange.

He replied to my message telling him that there's no need for us to be in touch anymore. Unfortunately he has reminded me that he has something which belongs to me that I'll be needing today, so he's going to bring it over sometime today. I didn't reply. I know he'll turn up but I'll just get my possessions off him and shut the door in his face.

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Hm2020 · 02/10/2021 10:01

Please ditch him sounds completely normal your children sound lovely he sounds like a dick they are very young still… I’m fuming just reading this

FlyingWhistle · 02/10/2021 10:03

He slammed a door and called you a prick.

He sounds like a toaster.

FlyingWhistle · 02/10/2021 10:03

TOSSER

Not a toaster, I like toasters

GrandmaSteglitszch · 02/10/2021 10:04

Well done for dumping him.

He has no business talking to you like that even if your children were badly behaved.

A relationship where he can't be around your kids because of his behaviour would not be great.

CallHimMrRaider · 02/10/2021 10:07

Well done for ending it Hermione. I grew up in a household like this with a twat of a stepfather and ultimately my mum chose him over us kids. Did untold damage long term to all of us.

PickAChew · 02/10/2021 10:07

Glad you step outside to take back your possession and don't let him in.

GrandmaSteglitszch · 02/10/2021 10:08

The kids want to hang on to the good parts of having him around and don't see how badly it could affect them, in the long run.

Stay strong for them.

PickAChew · 02/10/2021 10:08

Lost a chunk there! Glad you ditched him

Mulhollandmagoo · 02/10/2021 10:09

Ah, so so he thinks children should be seen and not heard??? We have generations of adults who are conflict averse people pleasers who struggle with their mental health who were brought up on this logic! I can't help but think there might be a connection!

Your childrens behaviours sounds absolutely normal, and you shouldn't be on eggshells or being called names in your own home! If he moves in it will become increasingly worse for you, and and them as he will be around all the time, you all deserve better.

And of course your son shouted in the shower...its impossible to hear anything when you're in the shower!

Foxtailstump · 02/10/2021 10:13

Well done OP. You’ve made the right choice. Don’t let him worm his way back in.

Whirlywooo · 02/10/2021 10:14

You have absolutely done the right thing. It's normal that your DC might still want him there/to see him there because it's just what they're used to.
You have protected your children, and yourself, from long term emotional abuse. You only have to read the huge amounts of posts on here about partners' emotional abuse to see the damage it does.

It was never going to get better, he was never going to suddenly change and be all sweetness and light.

I regularly give myself a pat on the back for getting rid of my pathetic ex, knowing that I protected my kids from his awfulness. You should too.

3scape · 02/10/2021 10:16

He sounds unsuited to sharing his living arrangements and accomodating the needs of others.

Summersnake · 02/10/2021 10:19

All normal
Dump the prick