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To think this is relatively normal behaviour for children?

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user124765 · 01/10/2021 23:27

Name changed for this, and also posting here for traffic.

I have three children from my marriage that ended a few years back. They are aged 10, 8 and 5. No learning issues with the kids or anything else to note, they are (to my mind) all NT.

The issue is that DP (who is hoping to live with us very soon) seems to take constant issue with their behaviour. This evening the children were upstairs getting ready for bed and I'd asked my 8 year old to have a quick shower before he brushed his teeth etc. We've just moved in to this house in the last few days so everything is quite new and different for the kids. I turned the shower on and checked it was the correct temperature for him before I left the bathroom instructing him to wash his body and not worry about his hair for tonight.
I get downstairs and sit on the sofa next to DP and almost immediately DS shouts 'Mummy!' from upstairs. I get up and head up to see what he needs, but he can't hear my reply to hang on... I'm coming, because of the noise of the shower so continues yelling 'Mummy!' and getting increasingly louder.
Once I've sorted DS out, which takes about 3 minutes, I head back downstairs and take my place back on the sofa. Immediately DP starts having a go at me about 'letting him talk to you like shit'. His tone is quite aggressive actually and I just feel like a bit of support from him rather than a bollocking for lacking as a parent wouldn't go amiss at this stage.

It's almost constant now, whenever we're together as a 'family'. DP's need to micromanage my children and his insistence that they behave badly. I feel like I'm on tenterhooks all the time, waiting for something to kick off and I'm stuck in the middle trying to mediate the drama.
The kids are fine! They are children and full of joy and they do get excited from time to time. They sometimes push boundaries and behave badly...but isn't that normal? I feel like he's trying to turn my kids in to what he believes children should behave like, when as someone who's never had children himself he just doesn't know how kids really are!

Tonight I just lost my shit a bit and told him that I refuse to live my life walking on egg shells and I'm not going to change my parenting to suit him. I choose my children, every time. He said something like 'do you want me to fuck off then?' to which I replied that yes, him going home would probably be for the best right now. He was visibly upset and stormed out slamming the door behind him. He called me a 'fucking prick' under his breath too, which shocked me. That in itself is unforgivable to me I think. I felt sad when he'd gone but also incredibly relieved.

But now what? Do I end this? If I don't then I guess I have to keep him separate from my family, I can't risk him screwing my kids up with his controlling behaviour. Or is it me? 🤷‍♀️ Is he right that my children need pulling up on this behaviour. I just think it's normal...but who knows? Giggling in restaurants, being daft at bedtime when they've been told to settle down, shouting Mummy! over and over until you drop everything and go running. Isn't this all normal?

OP posts:
Riada · 02/10/2021 09:02

Good call, OP. I watched someone I know marry someone who was similar with her slightly older children, and it all fall apart in excruciating ways over years, breaking her heart and, worse, ending up with a lot of MH professional involvement for her children.

Bananarama21 · 02/10/2021 09:02

Hes sounds a like bully and it will get worse. Ditch him completely you can't keep him separate that's not realistic and he will worm his way in.

Lalliella · 02/10/2021 09:02

@user124765

Anyway...I can't sleep. I picked up my phone and I have another message on WhatsApp from him. Curiosity got the better of me and I read it, the gist of it being that he loves me and hopes we can work things out. I replied 'I love you too, but I love me and my kids so much more. It's over, no need to contact me again'. Sad
Well done OP for choosing your kids’ happiness. Please don’t let him worm his way back in by saying he’ll change. He won’t.
RahRahRa · 02/10/2021 09:03

Yes I’d LTB. This sounds like the beginnings of abusive behaviour.

Feetupteashot · 02/10/2021 09:05

What a knobber! Get rid

AllthingsSummer · 02/10/2021 09:08

Please leave him before it gets worse. Honestly, this is just the beginning.

My ex partner took objection to my 3 year old child and it became really unpleasant. In the end, and I’m not necessarily saying this will happen, it became an abusive, coercive relationship culminating in a nasty period of stalking. He even contacted my parents and sent them awful hate letters.
Never again would I let anyone into my child’s safe space, their home, like that, especially someone disapproving right from the start. This is him on his “best behaviour”. ..

SunsetCastle · 02/10/2021 09:10

Well done OP Flowers Your children sound lovely and normal. My ex used to get on everyone's case like that, and he is their father! He got ditched too! He thought children should be seen but not heard.
Good luck going forward and you did the right thing!

RosieLemonade · 02/10/2021 09:10

I cannot put into words the trauma of my mum moving in a man like this when I was 13. Home went from sanctuary to a prison. I went from never ever being told off to being scared to breath incase I got a bollocking. Honestly me and my sister were such good girls. Little homebodies who wouldn't ever say boo to a goose. At 30 I am still a little shell woman terrified of doing or saying the wrong thing. I'm so scared of EVERYONE incase they tell me off or get angry with me.

mycatisannoying · 02/10/2021 09:12

End it. It's never going to get better. I'll never live with a man while my kids are at home, as they come first. Kids should never have to pay the price for their parent's life choices.
Good luck x

WellLarDeDar · 02/10/2021 09:13

Get rid of him! If not for you then for your kids!

catsareme14 · 02/10/2021 09:17

@RosieLemonade
Your sadness & pain still show in your post Thanks

HikingforScenery · 02/10/2021 09:18

Your children could actually be be giving badly, as presumably he’s the only one who spends enough time with you in the same house so would notice.
It’s your choice how you want to parent them and if he’s making you feel like you’re walking on eggshells, that’s unacceptable.
You do what you need to do to protect yourself children and you. Good luck OP

sausagepastapot · 02/10/2021 09:19

He sounds like an absolute douche bag. Get away from him.

worriedatthemoment · 02/10/2021 09:22

Well its nit going to work if you have different ideas in bringing up children
Its hard to tell if your kids behaviour is ok from the small snippets
I know some people who think their kids behaviour is fine but others avoid them because ithey are actually not behaved at all
That said they are your kids and your choice how to parent them

Rainsunrainsun · 02/10/2021 09:24

You sound like a great mum.
Don’t listed to anyone giving you a hard time. You realised their was a problem and acted appropriately putting your children first.

Honestly if he was like this now it was only going to escalate. Sadly if he had a bullying father that maybe the model of parenting he has internalised. You don’t want that put on your lovely children.

If you really think he is otherwise a kind and loving person who is compatible with you then you could suggest his negative childhood experiences are something he works through in therapy or with professional help (not having him around your children while he does this). It could make a big difference

MisterMeaner · 02/10/2021 09:25

I cried a little tear of relief when I read your last update. Well done, sticking up for your family. Your children are precious blessings and they are so lucky to have you as their Mum.

CiderJolly · 02/10/2021 09:27

You are doing the right thing. Please don’t waste your life seeing him away from your kids either- he isn’t good enough for your kids and he isn’t good enough for you.

I bet your children will be so relieved to hear of the change of plan too.

worriedatthemoment · 02/10/2021 09:28

Also if you don't enjoy your time together when with the kids and he doesn't live with you then this will be your life 24/7 and your kids
Wether you parent right or wrong or perfect if you and your children are hoary with it then whoever you meet needs to slot in with that , yes maybe discuss certain issues but not dictate only you and them change

tempester28 · 02/10/2021 09:29

Unfortunately, you said you felt relieved when he left so I think that says it all and you should end it.

Feelslikealot · 02/10/2021 09:33

Good for you op. Any relationship where you feel relief at the idea of ending it, is not a relationship you need to be in.

jajabanks · 02/10/2021 09:33

Don't let him move in. Having lived with a step parent like this, you will regret it with the relationship you will go on to have when your children get older.
I was the quietest, shyest probably most boring child (think jigsaws and quilling) and yet step dad thought I was not a well behaved child, would say stuff that I'd done (lies) and wasn't even allowed to sit certain ways as not lady like. So I lived in my bedroom and left as soon as I could. Obviously it was an awful house hold to live in. I believe he has since admitted that actually compared to other children he knew I wasn't bad! My mum put him before me and we don't have a good relationship at all now.

jajabanks · 02/10/2021 09:34

I'm guessing he doesn't have kids? My step parent didn't

TracyLords · 02/10/2021 09:37

Please let him go. Your kids deserve so much better. And we’ll done for recognising it in advance instead of forcing your kids into living with a horrible stepdad

TakeMe2Insanity · 02/10/2021 09:41

Well done OP on getting rid of him. Here’s to a lovely future 💐

HermioneAndRoger · 02/10/2021 09:41

Read OP's update - she has ended it.

Well done, OP. You've done the right thing Flowers