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To think this is relatively normal behaviour for children?

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user124765 · 01/10/2021 23:27

Name changed for this, and also posting here for traffic.

I have three children from my marriage that ended a few years back. They are aged 10, 8 and 5. No learning issues with the kids or anything else to note, they are (to my mind) all NT.

The issue is that DP (who is hoping to live with us very soon) seems to take constant issue with their behaviour. This evening the children were upstairs getting ready for bed and I'd asked my 8 year old to have a quick shower before he brushed his teeth etc. We've just moved in to this house in the last few days so everything is quite new and different for the kids. I turned the shower on and checked it was the correct temperature for him before I left the bathroom instructing him to wash his body and not worry about his hair for tonight.
I get downstairs and sit on the sofa next to DP and almost immediately DS shouts 'Mummy!' from upstairs. I get up and head up to see what he needs, but he can't hear my reply to hang on... I'm coming, because of the noise of the shower so continues yelling 'Mummy!' and getting increasingly louder.
Once I've sorted DS out, which takes about 3 minutes, I head back downstairs and take my place back on the sofa. Immediately DP starts having a go at me about 'letting him talk to you like shit'. His tone is quite aggressive actually and I just feel like a bit of support from him rather than a bollocking for lacking as a parent wouldn't go amiss at this stage.

It's almost constant now, whenever we're together as a 'family'. DP's need to micromanage my children and his insistence that they behave badly. I feel like I'm on tenterhooks all the time, waiting for something to kick off and I'm stuck in the middle trying to mediate the drama.
The kids are fine! They are children and full of joy and they do get excited from time to time. They sometimes push boundaries and behave badly...but isn't that normal? I feel like he's trying to turn my kids in to what he believes children should behave like, when as someone who's never had children himself he just doesn't know how kids really are!

Tonight I just lost my shit a bit and told him that I refuse to live my life walking on egg shells and I'm not going to change my parenting to suit him. I choose my children, every time. He said something like 'do you want me to fuck off then?' to which I replied that yes, him going home would probably be for the best right now. He was visibly upset and stormed out slamming the door behind him. He called me a 'fucking prick' under his breath too, which shocked me. That in itself is unforgivable to me I think. I felt sad when he'd gone but also incredibly relieved.

But now what? Do I end this? If I don't then I guess I have to keep him separate from my family, I can't risk him screwing my kids up with his controlling behaviour. Or is it me? 🤷‍♀️ Is he right that my children need pulling up on this behaviour. I just think it's normal...but who knows? Giggling in restaurants, being daft at bedtime when they've been told to settle down, shouting Mummy! over and over until you drop everything and go running. Isn't this all normal?

OP posts:
titchy · 01/10/2021 23:33

Giggling in restaurants, being daft at bedtime when they've been told to settle down, shouting Mummy! over and over until you drop everything and go running. Isn't this all normal?

It's normal, infuriating, and lovely! Dump the bf and enjoy your dc's exuberance!

negomi90 · 01/10/2021 23:34

Shouting Mummy from the shower until you have attention is completely normal.
In the shower, like on the loo, things feel like emergencies and if he couldn't hear your response to know you're coming then of course he'll keep calling.
If you are happy with your kids, then he shouldn't be coming in and telling you not be. Your kids will know its him and resent him for it.
If he's not happy with your kids then you need to accept that you two aren't compatible and thus need to end it.
And calling someone a fucking prick after an argument is not ok. If he's like this now, he's going to be far worse if he moves in.

SpottyStripyDuvet · 01/10/2021 23:34

Your instincts are right it is absolutely normal! He obviously doesn't get it (assuming that he doesn't have his own) so he either needs to get it very quickly or get rid. Clearly the children are your priority.

SharpLily · 01/10/2021 23:36

It all sounds pretty normal but unless someone who knows you all can confirm then it's hard for strangers to say. However I can't see this working out with him unless he's prepared to accept that as he has no experience of parenting then he doesn't have a clue what he's on about. Sorry. On the other hand, if other people also think your children are a problem then he may have a point.

Megan2018 · 01/10/2021 23:37

Your kids sound lovely, ditch the awful man. Your kids do not need that sort of toxicity in their lives, it won’t end well.

SalmonEile · 01/10/2021 23:40

Let him go
Let him gooooooo

He doesn’t make you happy and it won’t get better

LifeIsEverchanging · 01/10/2021 23:40

Put your kids first.

lynntheyresexpeople · 01/10/2021 23:40

He sounds awful. Get rid! Your kids sound lovely, happy children like they should be! All totally normal behaviour.

KurtWilde · 01/10/2021 23:40

Of course it's normal, and honestly I'd say get out of this relationship while you can. I had exactly the same with my exh toward my DC/parenting and it just got worse.

Bogeyes · 01/10/2021 23:41

Your kids come first. You know what you need to do!

throttlebottom · 01/10/2021 23:41

This is not going to get better is it? Why would you want to be with someone who is so controlling? Listen hard to that inner feeling of relief when he left.

BiLuminous · 01/10/2021 23:42

You've known your children from before they were born, he hasn't. If you don't take exception to your child's tone then it's not for him to nitpick at. I could understand if it was a real problem to have genuine concern over but these things all seem minor.

And yes it is normal. Annoying and normal kid stuff. My children are 9,6 and 5 so similar ages and they make a racket together. It sounds like he doesn't know/understand children very well or what it's like to have them. Either he has to be willing to listen, learn and get on board with the same parenting style as you or he has to go. It seems he thinks of parenting quite differently to you.

DismantledKing · 01/10/2021 23:42

It’s be awful if he moves in. He’ll bully your children.

ThirdElephant · 01/10/2021 23:43

I wonder if he resents your children's demands on your attention?

Either way, your instinct is correct- let him go.

PinkSyCo · 01/10/2021 23:45

Why have you agreed to let this man move in with you? Please do not do that. Put your kids first, and if you must continue to see this man, do so out of the house.

fourandnomore · 01/10/2021 23:46

All totally normal and things that my husband and I will roll our eyes at but laugh about later and say oh aren’t they lovely - these little things that kids do and the way they need us for things is all part of the joy - you don’t need to live your life on eggshells and your kids will pick up on it, please don’t stay with this man.

Ledition · 01/10/2021 23:46

But now what? Do I end this?

Yes you absolutely do, unless you want to ruin your future relationship with your children? Calling you a "fucking prick" is appalling in and of itself TBH. There's nothing more irritating than someone with no children pontificating about how they "should" behave - it's always some Victorian notion of children being seen and not heard Confused

If you're already walking on egg shells this absolutely won't work long term. He should never, ever try to control and micromanage your DC, they will end up hating him (rightly so) and resenting you (rightly so too if you let it happen). You and your DC deserve better. Flowers

Kite22 · 01/10/2021 23:47

Of course it is normal - well, except for the bit where you have any expectation of sitting down to relax on the sofa before they are all tucked up.

Even if there were an issue (and it certainly doesn't sound like it) , him speaking to me like that would be the end.

violetbunny · 01/10/2021 23:48

If it's this bad now, it's only going to get much worse when he moves in. I would end it. How awful for your kids. He is a controlling bully, and undermining you.

MrsLeclerc · 01/10/2021 23:48

@titchy

Giggling in restaurants, being daft at bedtime when they've been told to settle down, shouting Mummy! over and over until you drop everything and go running. Isn't this all normal?

It's normal, infuriating, and lovely! Dump the bf and enjoy your dc's exuberance!

^This. Happy, silly and exuberant kids are wonderful.

If he can’t see that, appreciate the family you are and want to be a part of it, he’s not the one for you.

Changechangychange · 01/10/2021 23:48

Get rid. Your children sound lovely.

Ledition · 01/10/2021 23:49

Oh and to answer your original question - yes what you're describing is absolutely normal kid behaviour. Well it sounds like every other child I have and I know anyway, and I'm acquainted with a lot of them!

MaeD · 01/10/2021 23:49

Sounds pretty normal to me. You’re right in that you can’t let this man continue to be around your children as he will only get worse. Why would you even want to stay with someone who is rude and aggressive anyway, even if you did keep him away from them?

It’ll never work, please don’t let him move in, imagine what he’d be like to them and you if he lived with you.

TheWayTheLightFalls · 01/10/2021 23:49

Does he have kids, out of interest?

I’d be ending things, I’m sorry to say.

PickAChew · 01/10/2021 23:50

Your p resents them and their normal for kids behaviour. This will not get better.