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To think this is relatively normal behaviour for children?

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user124765 · 01/10/2021 23:27

Name changed for this, and also posting here for traffic.

I have three children from my marriage that ended a few years back. They are aged 10, 8 and 5. No learning issues with the kids or anything else to note, they are (to my mind) all NT.

The issue is that DP (who is hoping to live with us very soon) seems to take constant issue with their behaviour. This evening the children were upstairs getting ready for bed and I'd asked my 8 year old to have a quick shower before he brushed his teeth etc. We've just moved in to this house in the last few days so everything is quite new and different for the kids. I turned the shower on and checked it was the correct temperature for him before I left the bathroom instructing him to wash his body and not worry about his hair for tonight.
I get downstairs and sit on the sofa next to DP and almost immediately DS shouts 'Mummy!' from upstairs. I get up and head up to see what he needs, but he can't hear my reply to hang on... I'm coming, because of the noise of the shower so continues yelling 'Mummy!' and getting increasingly louder.
Once I've sorted DS out, which takes about 3 minutes, I head back downstairs and take my place back on the sofa. Immediately DP starts having a go at me about 'letting him talk to you like shit'. His tone is quite aggressive actually and I just feel like a bit of support from him rather than a bollocking for lacking as a parent wouldn't go amiss at this stage.

It's almost constant now, whenever we're together as a 'family'. DP's need to micromanage my children and his insistence that they behave badly. I feel like I'm on tenterhooks all the time, waiting for something to kick off and I'm stuck in the middle trying to mediate the drama.
The kids are fine! They are children and full of joy and they do get excited from time to time. They sometimes push boundaries and behave badly...but isn't that normal? I feel like he's trying to turn my kids in to what he believes children should behave like, when as someone who's never had children himself he just doesn't know how kids really are!

Tonight I just lost my shit a bit and told him that I refuse to live my life walking on egg shells and I'm not going to change my parenting to suit him. I choose my children, every time. He said something like 'do you want me to fuck off then?' to which I replied that yes, him going home would probably be for the best right now. He was visibly upset and stormed out slamming the door behind him. He called me a 'fucking prick' under his breath too, which shocked me. That in itself is unforgivable to me I think. I felt sad when he'd gone but also incredibly relieved.

But now what? Do I end this? If I don't then I guess I have to keep him separate from my family, I can't risk him screwing my kids up with his controlling behaviour. Or is it me? 🤷‍♀️ Is he right that my children need pulling up on this behaviour. I just think it's normal...but who knows? Giggling in restaurants, being daft at bedtime when they've been told to settle down, shouting Mummy! over and over until you drop everything and go running. Isn't this all normal?

OP posts:
Alicenwonderland · 02/10/2021 00:16

Your instincts are screaming at you, please listen to them. As someone who didn't listen and then spent 8 years trapped in an abusive relationship I regret not listening to my gut, it's never wrong. I had two boys, 5 and 7 at the time, who did have additional needs and he used this against me as a way to control us all. It gets worse, much worse. Once we brought a house and had two children of our own it became much harder to leave.

waybill · 02/10/2021 00:16

Well done you for standing up to him.

SallSall · 02/10/2021 00:16

I am so sorry for you and your kids - please leave him. It will not get better, he has shown you his true nature and it will escalate when he has moved in, or if you get pregnant, or if he is drunk, under pressure.etc please run - get rid of him ASAP. Your children will suffer under his control and he will escalate to you in the long run. please follow your gut - you sound like a wonderful mum

theemperorhasnoclothes · 02/10/2021 00:17

@BSideBaby

Please don't move in with him OP. His behaviour will only get worse.
This. If he's behaving like this now, it will get 100 times worse if you let him move in.
theemperorhasnoclothes · 02/10/2021 00:18

Oh and if my kids didn't yell for me from the bathroom I'd think there was something wrong! Your kids are normal. Your DP is not very nice.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 02/10/2021 00:19

It's good you've had this epiphany before he moved in - try to think of it that way. It was a bit of a trial run and it's revealed you aren't compatible long term. He isn't compatible with your family. A house with kids in should be full of laughing, playing, silliness!

Please don't make them grow up in a home where you and / or them are required to walk on eggshells to keep the peace. It's so damaging for kids and affects them more than you maybe realise. I was one!

I didn't realise couples were meant to have a laugh with each other and really enjoy each other's full personalities. Which meant a string of shit and unhealthy relationships, therapy galore and only now in my early 30s am I in a healthy, loving and fun relationship with someone I want to have children with.

Give your kids the gift of a happy home and a happy mum.

Pallisers · 02/10/2021 00:19

come on OP. He has you in tears about how he talks about/treats your children and you know he isn't right. how you describe your children is how I would have described mine at the same ages. kids are demanding/funny/infuriating/annoying/joyful.

Move on. he isn't for you (or anyone imo)

MiddleClassProblem · 02/10/2021 00:20

You’re also spending this thread defending your kids and saying none for him. I think that shows that you are strong enough to end this. You have your priorities right in your heart and your head. You’re able to act before you get in any deeper.

Good luck, you got this.

RAFHercules · 02/10/2021 00:24

It will only get worse. Put your kids first.
I can't imagine how you would even consider staying with him.

BiLuminous · 02/10/2021 00:26

No learning issues with the kids or anything else to note, they are (to my mind) all NT.

I find this comment interesting. Has he suggested something like this to you?

ThisIsJeopardy · 02/10/2021 00:26

They are children and full of joy

And he will kill that joy in them, if you let him move in.

Please don't do it to them. You already know.

user124765 · 02/10/2021 00:26

In my heart I know I have to keep him away from my children and if I continue to see him from now going forward it needs to be whilst the kids are with their Dad.
I'm pretty gutted because I had high hopes for us all, but it seems it just wasn't meant to be. Tonight I've felt such terrible sadness but the relief is overwhelming. To know that tomorrow morning I'll wake up with my children and we can get on with life in our new home without some interloper throwing his weight around.
Thank you all. I'm going to sleep now. He's sent me a few WhatsApp messages this evening saying he wants to talk tomorrow, so I'll lay it all out for him then. x

OP posts:
Lostmarbles2021 · 02/10/2021 00:27

Normal behaviour for sure.

ThisIsJeopardy · 02/10/2021 00:27

Actually, he will kill their joy if you stay at him at all. He needs to go.

KurtWilde · 02/10/2021 00:28

Good for you, OP, you sound like a lovely mum. All the best in your new home!

PerseverancePays · 02/10/2021 00:29

He is showing you what he learned from his father: how to bully. You don’t want to live with a bully and you don’t want your children to learn that. He’s (thankfully) not got children and has absorbed no aptitude for parenting yours.
Being a parent is hard enough without someone at your elbow constantly putting you down. Your children sound healthy and happy and normal and you sound like a terrific mum. Ditch the loser.

ThisIsJeopardy · 02/10/2021 00:29

If you stay in this relationship he will be relentless in wearing you down until he is in your children's home and running your whole life. You're having a difficult conversation with him soon anyway, just do yourself and your kids a favour and end it.

MiddleClassProblem · 02/10/2021 00:31

I don’t understand why you are considering still seeing him. I’m not sure I could be with someone who thought so badly of my DD. It’s got nothing to do with them not seeing him.

And equally, he can damage you too. You really need to take care of yourself too!

Stompythedinosaur · 02/10/2021 00:32

Your dc sound like mine, totally normal for their age.

You can't move in a guy who dislikes your dc.

N4ish · 02/10/2021 00:33

He called you a ‘fucking prick’. You’re 100% right in keeping him away from your kids but you need to look after yourself too. He doesn’t sound like someone who will treat you well.

Merryoldgoat · 02/10/2021 00:35

Why would you still carry on seeing him? I’m genuinely asking as I just can’t understand how his behaviour hasn’t completely turned your stomach. He is basically telling you you’re a rubbish parent and your kids are a problem.

Geppili · 02/10/2021 00:39

Please just dump him.

Mamanyt · 02/10/2021 00:40

Your P is not so D, and is flying several red flags. I'd dump him and move on. You're asking for real, serious issues later on if this man moves in!

RudestLittleMadam · 02/10/2021 00:40

Life is too short for pricks like this. Your children sound like normal and perfectly nice children. Even if they weren’t, their home should be their sanctuary- somewhere they feel safe where they can be themselves and be nurtured. They won’t have that if you let this horrible man move in. He’ll ruin that.

MrsApplepants · 02/10/2021 00:47

Your kids sound lovely and fine. Run far and fast away from this bloke, he’s shown you who he is and it isn’t good.

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