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To think this is relatively normal behaviour for children?

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user124765 · 01/10/2021 23:27

Name changed for this, and also posting here for traffic.

I have three children from my marriage that ended a few years back. They are aged 10, 8 and 5. No learning issues with the kids or anything else to note, they are (to my mind) all NT.

The issue is that DP (who is hoping to live with us very soon) seems to take constant issue with their behaviour. This evening the children were upstairs getting ready for bed and I'd asked my 8 year old to have a quick shower before he brushed his teeth etc. We've just moved in to this house in the last few days so everything is quite new and different for the kids. I turned the shower on and checked it was the correct temperature for him before I left the bathroom instructing him to wash his body and not worry about his hair for tonight.
I get downstairs and sit on the sofa next to DP and almost immediately DS shouts 'Mummy!' from upstairs. I get up and head up to see what he needs, but he can't hear my reply to hang on... I'm coming, because of the noise of the shower so continues yelling 'Mummy!' and getting increasingly louder.
Once I've sorted DS out, which takes about 3 minutes, I head back downstairs and take my place back on the sofa. Immediately DP starts having a go at me about 'letting him talk to you like shit'. His tone is quite aggressive actually and I just feel like a bit of support from him rather than a bollocking for lacking as a parent wouldn't go amiss at this stage.

It's almost constant now, whenever we're together as a 'family'. DP's need to micromanage my children and his insistence that they behave badly. I feel like I'm on tenterhooks all the time, waiting for something to kick off and I'm stuck in the middle trying to mediate the drama.
The kids are fine! They are children and full of joy and they do get excited from time to time. They sometimes push boundaries and behave badly...but isn't that normal? I feel like he's trying to turn my kids in to what he believes children should behave like, when as someone who's never had children himself he just doesn't know how kids really are!

Tonight I just lost my shit a bit and told him that I refuse to live my life walking on egg shells and I'm not going to change my parenting to suit him. I choose my children, every time. He said something like 'do you want me to fuck off then?' to which I replied that yes, him going home would probably be for the best right now. He was visibly upset and stormed out slamming the door behind him. He called me a 'fucking prick' under his breath too, which shocked me. That in itself is unforgivable to me I think. I felt sad when he'd gone but also incredibly relieved.

But now what? Do I end this? If I don't then I guess I have to keep him separate from my family, I can't risk him screwing my kids up with his controlling behaviour. Or is it me? 🤷‍♀️ Is he right that my children need pulling up on this behaviour. I just think it's normal...but who knows? Giggling in restaurants, being daft at bedtime when they've been told to settle down, shouting Mummy! over and over until you drop everything and go running. Isn't this all normal?

OP posts:
Ledition · 02/10/2021 00:51

just feel like when we are all together I'm really on edge. Trying to make sure my children are behaving to his standard, not being silly, impolite or ill mannered in any way. When the kids do behave badly I'm already annoyed by having to deal with that.

That's awful on your children, you should NOT be doing that. You're putting a man's demands above their happiness and that's shameful OP. The fact your even considering staying with him says a lot...

HollowTalk · 02/10/2021 00:51

He sounds absolutely horrible. He wants the attention you are giving the children and he's swearing at you when he doesn't get it.

Why on earth are you thinking of living with him, even worse having him move in with your family, when he is like this and you are walking on eggshells?

What do you think a relationship is like? Don't you think the first things you look for in a partner are kindness, a sense of humour and a bit of bloody compassion?

ThreeLittleDots · 02/10/2021 00:57

Urgh, what's the point in still seeing him? Have higher standards! You deserve to not waste your time with someone abusive x

TatianaBis · 02/10/2021 00:58

@ThreeLittleDots

Urgh, what's the point in still seeing him? Have higher standards! You deserve to not waste your time with someone abusive x
Was going to say the same.

Being an arsehole to your kids is just a way of being an arsehole to you.

What’s the point of staying with him?

HoldMeCloserTinyBadger · 02/10/2021 01:00

You couldn’t possibly still be attracted to him when he treats you and your kids like this? Reread everything you have written here. It’s not worth keeping him in your life. He sounds horrible.

EmeraldShamrock · 02/10/2021 01:04

Definitely dump him.
You experienced freedom he'll upset your family and sulk at your DC.

WhereAreMyPants · 02/10/2021 01:04

I wouldn’t carry on seeing him at all, even without the children present. He’ll only try and wangle his way back in again. Plus, while you’re wasting time with him you could miss out on meeting someone better.

OnwardsAndSideways1 · 02/10/2021 01:09

So, you are going to indefinitely keep him away from your kids, for ever, til they are what, left home in 20 years time?

Be realistic OP, you won't be able to do that and even if you could, you wouldn't be able to turn to him and talk about your kids because you know he thinks you are a shit parent and they don't respect you.

Perhaps you still love him and so that's what's making you cling on when all the signs are on the wall he's not the right person, but it's quite painful to see. It is up to you though, but I wouldn't have thought it would create a happy home if your boyfriend has to be kept away from your children, how on earth would you explain that to the 10 year old?

SeaToSki · 02/10/2021 01:12

You said his father was a bully. It sounds like he internalised that behavior and is now repeating it in his ‘parenting’. It takes a lot of strong will and openess to remove that kind of conditioning. Do you think he recognises it in himself and wants to change?

RantyAunty · 02/10/2021 01:16

He's horrible. You know he is.

There's no reason to meet with him and talk. None at all.
Tell him it's over.

hangrylady · 02/10/2021 01:21

Get rid. Immediately.

AdviceOnLife · 02/10/2021 01:24

Op I hope you are fast asleep and resting.

But I just wanted to say Firstly your dc sound perfectly fine. They have personality and have good spirits. That is good and happy children.

Secondly the only person who treated you like shit was him calling you a "fucking prick" That's just uncalled for.

I hope tomorrow isn't to stressful for you. Flowers

chipsandgin · 02/10/2021 01:28

Absolutely get rid. I grew up with a stepfather who was childfree by choice - my Mum liked the attention but he really didn’t like or understand kids, it’s a horrible environment to grow up in. You owe them more than that OP, the fact you are questioning his behaviour already makes you a better Mum than mine.

user124765 · 02/10/2021 01:43

@Ledition

just feel like when we are all together I'm really on edge. Trying to make sure my children are behaving to his standard, not being silly, impolite or ill mannered in any way. When the kids do behave badly I'm already annoyed by having to deal with that.

That's awful on your children, you should NOT be doing that. You're putting a man's demands above their happiness and that's shameful OP. The fact your even considering staying with him says a lot...

I'm really not putting his needs and demands above my family's. That's such an unhelpful comment and feels like you're really sticking the boot in whilst I'm down. I have nothing to be ashamed about.
OP posts:
user124765 · 02/10/2021 01:46

Anyway...I can't sleep. I picked up my phone and I have another message on WhatsApp from him. Curiosity got the better of me and I read it, the gist of it being that he loves me and hopes we can work things out. I replied 'I love you too, but I love me and my kids so much more. It's over, no need to contact me again'. Sad

OP posts:
1forAll74 · 02/10/2021 01:47

He is not a suitable man to come in to your home, and life by the sound of things, He won't change his views about children and their behaviour, if he has never had any children.

ThisIsJeopardy · 02/10/2021 01:48

Ledition may have struck a nerve OP, but I think you need to read this sentence again: The fact you're even considering staying with him says a lot.

He does not like your children and isn't particularly nice to them or nice about them. Why isn't that enough to disqualify him from being your 'DP'? You sound like a loving mother. Shouldn't it be enough, then?

ThisIsJeopardy · 02/10/2021 01:49

Just read your latest update. Well done OP. Stay strong. Flowers

pumpkinpie01 · 02/10/2021 01:54

Was just about to post saying this will never work and he must not move in then I read your last post . Well done. Pls do not relent and take him back - he will not change . You will be stuck in the middle , he will suck the joy out of your lives . Stay strong

MuthaFunka61 · 02/10/2021 02:02

Another well done,keep your resolve and remember you've got Mn's support.

Hope you get some rest

pompomsgalore · 02/10/2021 02:10

It's a big brave move OP but you've done the right thing. Their childhood is fleeting and now you can have the freedom to enjoy it your way without a misery hanging on and curbing your fun.

Can you plan a fun weekend now with the kids and lots of treats for you all?

SammyScrounge · 02/10/2021 02:11

He's obviously not used to children and/or doesn:like them very much. I don,:t think a walking on eggshell house is what you want for your family.

blueshoes · 02/10/2021 02:16

OP, what you said is spot on. I love me and my kids so much more.

Your children thank you. It hurts now but I think you know it is the right decision.

Bombaloorina · 02/10/2021 02:19

I am so relieved that you will not be moving this man into your home, and your children’s lives.

Do you also know what? In the ~20 odd years we’ve known each other, DH has never called me a ‘fucking prick’, or even used the word ‘fuck’ in relation to me, even once.

That is so incredibly disrespectful.

You are so much better off without this sub-standard specimen.

Most men are better than that.

MrsTerryPratchett · 02/10/2021 02:25

I'm so sorry. That's disappointing but you put you first. And that's actually important. He was killing your joy in your kids. And regardless of whether it hurt them, it hurt you.

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