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SIL sending out bday cards ON MY BEHALF!

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TataMamma · 01/10/2021 10:08

I find my brothers long term live in girlfriend hard to handle. She's 10 years younger than me, very extroverted and seems to take control of everything, when I basically want to be left alone.
There's been something that is really irritating me though. When she sends out cards or gifts to family members, she signs them with my and my DDs name on as well as hers and my brothers. This has been irritating me for a while. I'm currently visiting my parents and it was my Dads bday last week. There was a bday card from her, with my name and my DDs name on too. Obviously I sent a card to my Dad from me and my DD, and I've visited this weekend with a present. Last night I said that I was really irritated by the way SIL does this and my mother just replied that that was how she was, and I should just be less irritated. That made it worse, and basically I want to send SIL a sharp email telling her this is not normal or acceptable and she should stop. (There's no point talking to her - she doesn't listen.) Just to be clear, I do not have any sort of reputation for ignoring/forgetting bdays and other events in my family!
AIBU to get so irritated by this? Should I send that email? It's been going on for some time, and I know it will continue if and until I make things very clear to her.

OP posts:
TataMamma · 01/10/2021 15:51

Well I sent the email 3 hours ago now, and I've not had any response. There's no way she won't have read it within minutes, which I think means it has upset her. A big part of me thinks that was inevitable because of who she is, but I don't want to upset her, just for it to stop.

A few people have raised issues re her family background and it is complicated. Her family are Bangladeshi Muslims, and a lot more working class than my own (although her and her siblings have all done very well). She appears to have a large close family, although does have a difficult relationship with her parents, primarily because of religion. She is an avowed Athiest and goes on about this a lot, drinks, has tattoos and if frankly a normal 29 year old. My brother has never met her parents and has only met her sister, to whom she is close, once. Officially her parents don't even know about my brother because he is not Muslim and it would cause a massive family row, although they've been living together for years. She had a cousin who married a Pakistani Muslim and that caused a massive family situation, although the cousin went ahead and all is well now. But anyway, the point is they don't know anything. I appreciate it's a difficult situation, but it does grate on me that she is seemingly taking over so much of my family and even so much of how I bring up my DD, when my brother has not met either of her parents for 2 minutes!

Ultimately none of that is really my business. She's not a bad person, and is very generous and not just with money, but time/effort, whether it's cleaning or making something for someone, but I just find her too much and I do feel she intrudes and takes over when I'm just a quieter but more independent free spirit, and I really can bring up my DD without her constant oversight. I know she irritates my Dad who I am very similar to, and frankly others as well. I often spend time wanting my brother to dump her because I don't really think she is ever going to change.

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Tiredmum100 · 01/10/2021 15:58

Out of interest where (or who with) do her family think she lives, if not with your brother? It would annoy me too, sounds like she's trying to cement in her place in the family to me.

DogsTails · 01/10/2021 16:13

Before I read all your posts, OP, I started to wonder if you’re a single parent! Lo and behold. That’s why she does it. You are not a proper family in your own right (in her eyes) so she’s tagging you along with her and her man (your brother). She would not do it, I bet, if you had a partner/ husband. Cheeky cow.

FancyLampshade · 01/10/2021 16:15

Oh my god, yeah so irritating. Cheeky cow! I’d do as others have suggested. Just short and to the point.

“Hi xxxx,

Just noticed you wrote a card signed on behalf of me and DD. Thanks for the gesture however we’d really appreciate if you didn’t do this in future as we always send a card personally from us. Thanks you fucking weirdo.”

worriedatthemoment · 01/10/2021 16:15

Why send an email why not just actually speak to her

Offmyfence · 01/10/2021 17:06

That's weird

LifeIsTricky · 01/10/2021 17:10

Very annoying and I think you're right to have emailed. However, your last update makes me think she perhaps isn't as ok with being estranged from her family as she makes out. I get the impression she just feels like she doesn't belong anywhere so she's ploughing everything (money, effort) into over compensating with your family. It probably comes from a good place, albeit not quite appropriate. I wish you both all the best and hope you can make amends and get the card signing to stop!

DadDadDad · 01/10/2021 17:18

@worriedatthemoment

Why send an email why not just actually speak to her
Why speak to her when you can send an email?

Of course, it's a judgement, but an email can be a good way to avoid blowing it out of proportion - something short and to the point, that gives the other person a chance to process it without having to react immediately, and maybe avoids getting into an argument.

worriedatthemoment · 01/10/2021 17:23

@DadDadDad I disagree emails and texts can be taken in totally the wrong way.
Just speak and say i have noticed you write out names in cards , we send out own so no need to do anymore , thanks
End of , a email is a kop out

SandAndSea · 01/10/2021 17:24

I'm also wondering if she's overcompensating. Her response to your email will be interesting.

Shellfishblastard · 01/10/2021 17:26

Text her and ask her why she signed your name on her card

DadDadDad · 01/10/2021 17:34

@worriedatthemoment - I actually agree with you that emails can be taken the wrong way.

That's why I said it's a judgement. Sometimes, an email is the way to go (but you do need to take care over how it will be read) if you don't want to engage in a discussion. Sometimes it's a cop-out and you need to give the other person a chance to respond and give respect to their point of view.

I'd say here that the SIL has not previously contacted the OP to ask if it's OK, so why should the OP initiate a discussion about it? There's no discussion really to be had: the OP doesn't want the SIL to do this and can calmly tell her so without making it a big issue in a phone call.

catsandhens · 01/10/2021 17:59

I did wonder before your update if she came from a very matriarchal family and she was making sure she established her place as the matriarch of your generation.

Now though I am inclined to think its a combination of feeling a loss of her family and so cementing her place firmly in yours and not seeing you as a 'real' family. My mother was like this when I was single, despite the fact I left home as soon as I could she would go on about how I didnt understand how hard it was to run a house etc, blindly ignoring the fact I had my own house. Because of course unless you have a husband you aren't really a family.

Its an annoying attitude so I hope your email does the trick

QueenBee52 · 01/10/2021 18:03

Glad you emailed...

whilst everyone is tiptoe'ing around her feeling and trying to keep the peace.. she's stomping all over everyone's boundaries and sensibilities ...

She needs told to back the hell off... and if she's offended then tough shit 🌸

HyacynthBucket · 01/10/2021 19:44

On reflection OP, I think when it comes to her sending you a card from your babyDD, that could just be her being kind and quite thoughtful.
The other thing of signing on your behalf may be generously motivated even if it does not come across that way - she could be wanting to share her expensive gifts to your parents with you - its financially generous and she may just want to share with you. All this could be a cultural issue (families sharing stuff), but maybe not.
Sorry this may not be helpful, just musing it over. Hope you manage to sort it out with her.

QueenBee52 · 01/10/2021 22:08

its weird as fuck ... who the hell does that

douliket · 01/10/2021 22:32

Okay signing your name is odd but it's also odd that you are emailing your sis in law.
Why not text or WhatsApp. Why so angry? Yes irritated but you sound so angry.
Do you think you could reign your anger in a little and Just genuinely ask her why she does this and then just tell her that it weirds you out when u see your name on someone's card that you knew nothing about,just tell her it makes you feel that the recipient of the card would think you had put in no effort and left it all to her.
Simples!!!
And I'm sorry but you have a baby , how wonderfully thoughtful of her to write u a card from your baby telling you that you are a great mother.

LeaveYourHatOn · 02/10/2021 09:34

@douliket
And I'm sorry but you have a baby , how wonderfully thoughtful of her to write u a card from your baby telling you that you are a great mother.

No it’s really not wonderfully thoughtful, it’s overstepping the mark and weird as fuck.

billy1966 · 02/10/2021 09:43

@QueenBee52

Glad you emailed...

whilst everyone is tiptoe'ing around her feeling and trying to keep the peace.. she's stomping all over everyone's boundaries and sensibilities ...

She needs told to back the hell off... and if she's offended then tough shit 🌸

I agree with this.

It does sound that she doesn't think you are a real family and is assuming a mothering figure towards you.Hmm

Personally I wouldn't worry about her feelings.

She needs to back off and butt out.

If she tries to impose herself in your parenting again with your daughtet, YOU need to take offence and tell her firmly to mind her own business.

Perhaps you can ask her when are we meeting your family?
What are their address so I can start sending them cards!

She needs putting in her place, firmly.🙄

TataMamma · 02/10/2021 10:18

Well I had a response last night. She was sweet and polite and has agreed to stop. She said that she does do these things for her family, although of course people also send their own cards - apparently it's a sign of "unity". Also, apparently my mother told her she liked receiving "whole family" cards. I'm sure my DM did say that, although less sure if it's true, particularly as they are not really whole family cards - I mean I didn't even know about them! Also, although I do find it weird and controlling, it is at least a general thing rather than specifically because of my situation as a lone parent, which was a big part of what had been bugging me.

I actually was less bothered by the cards sent to me "from" my daughter. They were twee and not to my taste but I could just chuck them. My email did not mention these at all, only the cards to others purportedly being "from" me and DD, which did annoy me, but she has asked about this too, and I think I'll ask her to stop. If nothing else to say otherwise feels bad when they are quite expensive and she apparently has plans to do so on my bday and Christmas as well as mothers day! I do accept this was a very kind and thoughtful thing - just not my cup of tea - and it was really the things from me to others that I was getting irritated by.

To those that commented on the use of email...there's a mixture of reasons. I don't use What's App and have never texted or phoned her. I don't really want to develop that kind of relationship, not least because I imagine it might be quite intense. She's not a bad person, just someone I have nothing at all in common with, and whilst I don't want to start a family war, I also don't want to spend masses of time with her. That would mean only raising it when I met with her, and I'm just not sure I'd be able to. Via email I could keep it sweet and light. I just wouldn't be able to do it "light" in person; I think my strength of feeling and offence would come through and she'd get upset and you can never be sure what might be said in the end. With email I can take my time and think and for me it's better in all the circumstances, although in an ideal world this would be something maybe you could talk about.

Anyway, was relieved by the general consensus that people would find this annoying, and enjoyed some of the suggestions - particularly sending her family rubbish presents and saying they were from her! - but ultimately I just want it to stop with no bad feelings running forward, and it looks like that has been achieved.

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LaBellina · 02/10/2021 10:20

Hopefully it’s solved now!
Well done.

Pl242 · 02/10/2021 10:37

Well done op

Cherrysoup · 02/10/2021 10:59

I just find it undermining, embarrassing, controlling.

I hope you mentioned this in your email. As for over the top presents and mothers’ day, I’d ask her to stop , it really isn’t appropriate for her to take over occasions and send cards on your behalf when you don’t adhere to that idea. Extra strange! She shouldn’t be buying so many expensive items for your dd. It’s like she thinks you’re unable to afford to look after her (or maybe just bonkers generous). Either way, I understand why you get annoyed.

WombatChocolate · 02/10/2021 11:45

Glad it’s sorted and so amicably.
Hopefully this communication will also help her think first, about any other rather odd or over-the-top actions which might occur to her, before she goes ahead. She’s getting a sense of who you are and what you like, and sounds quite thick-skinned and able to hear this info without taking offence (rightly so) - so that’s good.

Mummyoflittledragon · 02/10/2021 12:03

That’s a very positive end to your dilemma.