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Unvacinated nanny

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Roxyoc · 29/09/2021 10:13

Hello - We took out baby out of nursery spend ages trying to find a nanny instead. We have found somebody recommended by a colleague however she is not vacincated for Covid for personal reasons. Our baby is 10 months old, we are both double vacinated however I am still uneasy about this. My husband thinks its fine but I'm keen to know what other Mums think.

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ejhhhhh · 29/09/2021 21:37

I wouldn’t employ her, no.

mcmooberry · 29/09/2021 21:39

Wouldn't have occurred to me to ask.

JustLyra · 29/09/2021 21:39

Totally depends what the personal reasons are. If it's because she's had bad reactions to vaccines in the past that's very different to 'doesn't want a 5G chip'.

I would want to discuss the isolation issue though - that could be a major problem if you rely on her for childcare for work and she still has to isolate if she's a contact.

lunar1 · 29/09/2021 21:42

I wouldn't employ her, too much potential for repeated isolations.

Rosebel · 29/09/2021 21:50

I think I'd be okay with it. Bit different but I know at least one member of staff at my son's nursery isn't vaccinated. Obviously it's different as you would be employing her.
If you're not happy about it then I'd look for someone else.

VaccineSticker · 29/09/2021 21:55

No from me too

LabiaMinoraPissusFlapus · 29/09/2021 21:57

Those of you who are so concerned about the nanny posing a risk to the baby with regards to transmitting Covid, I assume you are all supporting your babies' immune systems by full term breastfeeding.

Talktalkchat · 29/09/2021 21:59

@LabiaMinoraPissusFlapus

Those of you who are so concerned about the nanny posing a risk to the baby with regards to transmitting Covid, I assume you are all supporting your babies' immune systems by full term breastfeeding.

and also staying away from everyone because even vaccinated can get covid

Nietzschethehiker · 29/09/2021 22:00

I wouldn't but for specifically these two reasons. If they catch Covid as others have said the downtime will be longer.

The other is that if it is in anyway anti vaxx related I wouldn't trust their judgement. I wouldn't be concerned about them passing their views to the baby ...because well baby.

However I don't have a high opinion of the conspiracy theorists group ability to risk assess. So that would be a problem. Conspiracy theorists as a group have repeatedly shown an ability to understand and interpret data rationally so that indicates that I can't trust their perspective where a medical issue for my child might come up in an emergency. Anyone can believe what they like and choose what they will but I would not trust anyone and everyone to take care of my children because not everyone is appropriate to do that.

If however you are able absorb any time off if they contract Covid in terms of alternate childcare and if the lack if vaccination is definitely for a non anti vaxx/ conspiracy theory reason (there are many people who have legitimate reasons and I dont have a single issue with them) then I would be fine.

ThePoint678 · 29/09/2021 22:07

@Stormyseasallround

A hard no from me. I’d have no desire to have loons like that in my home, much less near my children.

This

Talktalkchat · 29/09/2021 22:08

Thing is…. You all weren’t getting flu vaccines for the past how many years….

ilovesooty · 29/09/2021 22:14

@Talktalkchat

Thing is…. You all weren’t getting flu vaccines for the past how many years….

I've been getting flu vaccines every year since 2006.

I wouldn't want to employ someone in my house who I'd found out had chosen to be unvaccinated.

nanbread · 29/09/2021 22:15

@Babdoc

As well as frequent absences for contacts, if she actually got Covid she would be ill for longer than a vaccinated person, and might then have long Covid and be off for 18 months. Hiring a vaccinated nanny reduces all these risks of having to potentially cover multiple absences.

Yeah this. A reliable nanny is worth a lot

nanbread · 29/09/2021 22:18

@doublemonkey

People who've been vaccinated are just as lilkey to get Covid as those who haven't.

Actually they're not. I think by a factor of 2, last time I saw the stats.

People who've been vaccinated also don't have to isolate if they come into contact, and also are more likely to transmit a lower viral load making it less likely to pass it on.

NoEffingWay · 29/09/2021 22:22

It would be a no from me, because of the increased risk of catching covid and passing it to your family-the vaccine is not 100% against catching covid, but an unvaccinated person has zero protection.

She would end up isolating or going off sick if she caught it, and that would be a pain in the rear.

If it was me, I would cite your reason for not employing her to be 'personal choice'.

I detest anti-vaxxers, ill educated and irresponsible. Not who I would want looking after my children.

willstarttomorrow · 29/09/2021 22:23

I have a colleague who cannot be vaccinated due to severe allergies. We are frontline (although not nhs) so we were vaccinated quite early on. My issue with people who can receive the vaccine, but choose not to, is their mindset being incredibly selfish. It is the same when parents refused the MMR, herd immunity is a thing and it keeps people like my colleague safe and when I worked in paediatric oncology some very vulnerable children.

I totally support that it is an individual's choice, however choices have consequences. Yes the vaccinated still can get covid but they are less likely to be hospitalised. Also the 'viral spread ' is meant to be much reduced. Also viruses mutate- so it is within everyone's interests to try and control covid as much as possible.

Finally, even if within a group who statistically will not get very unwell, the pandemic has been bigger than the individual. I have not seen my vulnerable mother for nearly 2 years because I cannot travel. Children's schooling and childhoods have been disrupted beyond repair for some and many businesses have been destroyed, etc.

So unless the nanny has a medical reason for not being vaccinated, no way would I personally would want to employ her.

Charles11 · 29/09/2021 22:23

I wonder how many people who’ve already had covid and vaccinated get covid compared to vaccinated and never had covid?

Fallagain · 29/09/2021 22:26

@Talktalkchat keeping a child away from people would not be good for their immune systems.

NoEffingWay · 29/09/2021 22:27

@Charles11 I am triple vaccinated and have never had covid despite working in frontline healthcare all the way through.

The vaccine has changed everything, the covid wards have gone back to their normal care of non-covid patients. There is a sense of relief in the nursing profession that the worst is behind us.

Fallagain · 29/09/2021 22:27

@Talktalkchat

It’s the vaccinated passing it around

The vaccine isn’t live and it’s not even all of the virus.

byvirtue · 29/09/2021 22:57

A year ago nobody was vaccinated. Now people are actively discriminating against those who haven’t been vaccinated. I presume you will also be asking her whether she has children or is planning to get pregnant in the next year??

NumberTheory · 29/09/2021 23:01

I think it's a negative when you assess her against other candidates. How much of one is questionable. I don't think it's a total deal breaker unless her personal reasons are something like a belief in covid conspiracy theories. But I would be more reluctant to hire her if only because of the increased likelihood of her needing significant time off sick.

ilovesooty · 29/09/2021 23:05

@byvirtue

A year ago there weren't any vaccines.

Now there are, the picture has changed.

The rest of your post is nonsense.

Chelyanne · 29/09/2021 23:09

You'll be needing a full health record next

Ireolu · 29/09/2021 23:10

For me don't care what she decides for herself. But unvaccinated means potentially more likely to pass it on? The onward impact would give me pause. We have been told vaccination reduces that risk. I personally would not hire.

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