Prince Harry - something bugging me...

[StinkingCold]

Sorry, another Harry thread

Anyway, couple of things have been really bugging me recently...

1. He is getting paid 6 figures to be some advisor of a mental health charity

1. He has had 4 years therapy and is encouraging everyone else to get help like him

Now...here's my gripes!!...

1. What qualifications does he have to earn this salary as a mental health advisor?????? I've worked in mental health over 20 years, have an undergrad, MSc and Doctorate in a mh field, and have lectured on aspects of MH in my field. Despite my qualifications and experience, I would not consider myself qualified for a 6-figure salaried advisory post on mental health. So with zero qualifications or experience, how the hec does Harry think he is qualified to earn a six figure salary advising on the topic????? It just feels so naive and arrogant.

1. Good for you Harry, having 4 years therapy. Now in the real world, there is not 1 single NHS trust in the entire country likely to offer 4 years of therapy, or even 2, or even 1. Very difficult to even access 6 months or 3 months. Even for people who really really need it. I'm talking high risk, or whose functioning is severely impacted by their mental.health. The reality when you "seek help" for you mental health is a massive wait list followed by 6 sessions of guided self help over the phone. If you are really 'lucky' you might also be allowed to attend a short group programme of 6 sessions, maybe 12, probably on zoom. If you miss a couple.of appointments because you didn't get the letter, or phone was broken, or you were simply too unwell to get to your appointments, you'll probably lose the offer of the group or guided self help. If you have endured long and complex, multiple trauma, are self harming frequently, and drinking alot and overdosing - you might get offered 12 or 24 sessions of (probably group, maybe online only) DBT - but only if you really beg and show you are very very keen and won't miss any sessions. For most people, there is simply nothing. Maybe a referral to a charity for 4 sessions of counselling.

What planet are you on Harry. I wish wish wish you would realise how privileged you are to indulge yourself in 4 years of therapy, and that you could recognise your privilege. Wouldn't it be great if you could use you power and privilege to actually change the mental health system (in the UK) and advocate for more availability of therapeutic services, and maybe even donate large sums of cash to making therapy more available and accessible to the masses. I don't want to hear anymore about how therapy changed you, opened your eyes etc... Most of us simply.cant afford to go private, and the NHS is at breaking point and can't offer what is needed

@Roussette

He simply does not do the job

You know that from insider information?

No. I'm saying the job he is said to do is a full time (more than!) job and I just don't see any evidence to suggest he is breaking his back to get to work at 8am-6pm plus over time etc. 4 weeks annual leave a year.

Maybe it's just not being reported. I could be wrong. But I don't see it.

He simply does not do the job.

His job title, description, duties and expectations will be totally different than hers.

These people aren’t stupid. They didn’t hire Harry in the expectation he’d be doing 60 hour weeks. The hired him for totally different reasons.

I’m honestly not sure why that’s so difficult to grasp.

I just don't see any evidence to suggest he is breaking his back to get to work at 8am-6pm plus over time etc. 4 weeks annual leave a year.

We’ll put in a call to his line manager then.

It's not hard to grasp. They just need to call these celebrity jobs something else. I find it insulting to the people who actually do these roles who've earned the titles.

Undoubtedly he brings much to the table, but in a brand/corporate ambassador capacity or spokesperson or whatever

I find it insulting to the people who actually do these roles who've earned the titles.

Chief impact officer is not a professional designation or even a widely held job title. It can mean literally anything the company want it to mean.

No, you're right it's a relatively new title but it does have fairly defined responsibilities. It's a C level exec role. Think, 10+ hour days and hefty responsibility.

We really don’t know that for sure. I bet Charles is still giving them money.

We do know that for sure. In the Oprah interview, Harry said that Charles cut him off last June. This was confirmed by a spokesman for Charles. Since Charles publishes his accounts, I think we can be confident that they are telling the truth.

It's a C level exec role. Think, 10+ hour days and hefty responsibility.

Have you seen his contract? Of course you haven’t.

There are lots of watered down C roles these days. They’re 10 a penny. No they aren’t all crucial to the running of the business and demanding long hours.

The only people who have any clue if Harry is doing the job he’s been hired for are those in the company. And honestly, being so invested in whether a person you’ve never met and whose job description you have no sight of is delivering, is at best totally pointless and at worst a bit weird.

I'm saying the job he is said to do is a full time (more than!) job and I just don't see any evidence to suggest he is breaking his back to get to work at 8am-6pm plus over time etc. 4 weeks annual leave a year

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Well... if they don't want him them, they'll soon tell him won't they?!

I find it insulting to the people who actually do these roles who've earned the titles

I think you are well on the way to a written complaint to Better Up... go for it.

@TheKeatingFive I just gave my opinion. I don't care that much but you kept quoting me and making comments about my comments so I was following up on those.

It doesn't really matter does it.

I don't care that much

That’s not really what’s coming across, but ok let’s run with it.

The only people to take this up with are Better Up. But I’m sure they’ll figure out themselves if it’s not working.

To me... criticising him for earning money is absolute desperation to find something to criticise him about!
Just ridiculous.

I’m just not sure what people expected/wanted from him. Did they think he was going to get a realtors licence? A job in payroll? Settle in New Jersey?

Literally no one he knows lives like that.

@TheKeatingFive

I’m just not sure what people expected/wanted from him. Did they think he was going to get a realtors licence? A job in payroll? Settle in New Jersey?

Literally no one he knows lives like that.

They want him to suffer in some way and wish to heap scorn on anything he does. Because jacking in the royal life is seen by many as an act of rank disloyalty and ingratitude towards the country and dereliction of duty.

Yep. And nasty Meghan stole our prince, how dare she

Nice that Americans have embraced H&M as their very own Royal Family.

H&M have conquered America as HRH E2 could never do.

Hats off to Meghan and her Prince, they have certainly landed on their feet and I hope America enjoys them and enjoys bankrolling them too.

I hope America enjoys them and enjoys bankrolling them too.

Why so snide? It’s not like the tax payer is stumping up cash. If private business want to pay them for their services, surely that’s their affair?

I agree, nobody else's business. I do think Harry will suffer somewhat because he loves his family and friends over here and there were many things with which he was enthusiastically involved.

It's my wish that he and Meghan, with their children, will come here regularly in the future. I dunno if they will listen to me though .

I have no problem with Harry earning money working for BetterUp. This thread has frustrated me though, as it’s peppered with inaccuracies!

@TheKeatingFive yes exactly

King and Queen of America

@Snog. Honestly, I don’t think the average American pays them much attention at all. I’m British currently living in the US and I don’t know anyone who has any interest in them. I have limited interest, because I’m British, but none of my American friends appear to! Possibly they have some fans in LA because they’ve chosen to live there.

My american friends are soooo into them

Admittedly, I only have half a dozen but they love them. And feel that our loss is their gain.

@Roussette

My american friends are soooo into them

Admittedly, I only have half a dozen but they love them. And feel that our loss is their gain.

But why?

@VladmirsPoutine

If he’d married a Kate he’d be getting plenty of sympathy.

Precisely. If he'd married a Kate2.0 and still pursued charitable mental health work and indeed even stepped back from the RF he'd be getting showered with praise. His choice of Meghan has really irked a lot of people.

I don't think it's the stepping back that irks people, it's the stepping back from the RF to plough their own furrow yet still using the RF's name to promote themselves. In the North West, maybe other places too, it's calling wanting to have the cake and the h'penny.