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Prince Harry - something bugging me...

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StinkingCold · 24/09/2021 22:30

Sorry, another Harry thread

Anyway, couple of things have been really bugging me recently...

  1. He is getting paid 6 figures to be some advisor of a mental health charity


  1. He has had 4 years therapy and is encouraging everyone else to get help like him


Now...here's my gripes!!...

  1. What qualifications does he have to earn this salary as a mental health advisor?????? I've worked in mental health over 20 years, have an undergrad, MSc and Doctorate in a mh field, and have lectured on aspects of MH in my field. Despite my qualifications and experience, I would not consider myself qualified for a 6-figure salaried advisory post on mental health. So with zero qualifications or experience, how the hec does Harry think he is qualified to earn a six figure salary advising on the topic????? It just feels so naive and arrogant.


  1. Good for you Harry, having 4 years therapy. Now in the real world, there is not 1 single NHS trust in the entire country likely to offer 4 years of therapy, or even 2, or even 1. Very difficult to even access 6 months or 3 months. Even for people who really really need it. I'm talking high risk, or whose functioning is severely impacted by their mental.health. The reality when you "seek help" for you mental health is a massive wait list followed by 6 sessions of guided self help over the phone. If you are really 'lucky' you might also be allowed to attend a short group programme of 6 sessions, maybe 12, probably on zoom. If you miss a couple.of appointments because you didn't get the letter, or phone was broken, or you were simply too unwell to get to your appointments, you'll probably lose the offer of the group or guided self help. If you have endured long and complex, multiple trauma, are self harming frequently, and drinking alot and overdosing - you might get offered 12 or 24 sessions of (probably group, maybe online only) DBT - but only if you really beg and show you are very very keen and won't miss any sessions. For most people, there is simply nothing. Maybe a referral to a charity for 4 sessions of counselling.


What planet are you on Harry. I wish wish wish you would realise how privileged you are to indulge yourself in 4 years of therapy, and that you could recognise your privilege. Wouldn't it be great if you could use you power and privilege to actually change the mental health system (in the UK) and advocate for more availability of therapeutic services, and maybe even donate large sums of cash to making therapy more available and accessible to the masses. I don't want to hear anymore about how therapy changed you, opened your eyes etc... Most of us simply.cant afford to go private, and the NHS is at breaking point and can't offer what is needed
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RJnomore1 · 24/09/2021 22:57
  1. he has lived experience and a name that makes people take notice.

    Do you?

  2. are you arguing he’s wrong that therapy would help?
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Ozanj · 24/09/2021 22:58

He will attract far more in investment / donations / effect more positive change just through being himself than any fully trained up person will ever dream of it. You, at best, might be able to help one person at a time. Harry, through a TV show etc, might be able to help a million. It’s not comparable.

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MichelleScarn · 24/09/2021 22:58

Yanbu op , but he must have done some extensive research as did he not say when Archie was born that he and Megan had no idea how to look for mh support now he's presumably an expert.

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NOTANUM · 24/09/2021 22:58

Agree.
Totally tone deaf.

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Theythinkitsalloveritisnow · 24/09/2021 22:59

@RosesAndHellebores

Not nearly as grating as mental health professionals telling lies and being disingenuous though

Is that aimed at me? Because I'm afraid I have no idea what you're talking about.
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Gilmorehill · 24/09/2021 22:59

He does seem to lack any awareness at how privileged he’s been to have as much support as he needed at the time he needed.

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MrsWhites · 24/09/2021 23:03

I think they really struggle to read the room so to speak.

Just this week for example they encourage people to reduce their carbon footprint whilst travelling around New York in a convoy of 3 4x4’s and turn up at a primary school where 94% of pupils qualify for financial support wearing a $7.5k trouser suit.

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Derbee · 24/09/2021 23:06

In the Oprah interview he said he didn’t ask for help because he was “embarrassed” about her so called mental health problems.

What an ambassador. He’s a disgrace

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DdraigGoch · 24/09/2021 23:10

@JustLyra

He’s as qualified as most other celebrity advisors to big charities.

It’s about his name. Not his qualifications.

This. He's a mascot really.
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Theunamedcat · 24/09/2021 23:12

@RJnomore1

1) he has lived experience and a name that makes people take notice.

Do you?

2) are you arguing he’s wrong that therapy would help?

Yes therapy will help but exactly how do you access it? In America you pay for it so its a rich mans privilege in the UK your lucky to get six sessions on the phone at some point your more likely to get pills thrown at you and left to it but again you have to pay for the pills so its only for people who are too poor to pay or rich enough to pay
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WorraLiberty · 24/09/2021 23:14

@Derbee

In the Oprah interview he said he didn’t ask for help because he was “embarrassed” about her so called mental health problems.

What an ambassador. He’s a disgrace

On the contrary I think he was very honest about that.

Lots of people find MH embarrassing, let's not pretend that they don't.

Plenty of ambassadors will rinse and repeat the 'Get help immediately' and 'reach out' message and I'm not saying that doesn't help, but perhaps his honesty in this case got through to some people.
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wellards · 24/09/2021 23:14

How is it any different to all the other slebs & royals who work with charities.

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CharityDingle · 24/09/2021 23:15

@rocklamp

He doesn't really have the intellect to be qualified to do anything other than something very simple and rudimentary. He also lacks the moral compass and necessary work ethic. He won't know the difference between mental illness and emotional wellbeing. It's all about da feelz to him and that's as far as his thinking can take him.

Sums him up perfectly, imo.
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Jellycatspyjamas · 24/09/2021 23:16

I think people are being unfair to Harry, it must be difficult to be cut off financially by your dad before you're even 40

He’s hardly needing to access food banks, unlike many people who’s mental health prevents them from engaging in work or education, and who will never get the kind of good quality, long term therapy they need.

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wellards · 24/09/2021 23:17

Just this week for example they encourage people to reduce their carbon footprint whilst travelling around New York in a convoy of 3 4x4’s and turn up at a primary school where 94% of pupils qualify for financial support wearing a $7.5k trouser suit.

How is this different to other Royals? I also don't understand the point. If Kate or Meghan wear a Primark dress are we going to forget they are multi millionaires?

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Warmduscher · 24/09/2021 23:17

@RJnomore1

1) he has lived experience and a name that makes people take notice.

Do you?

2) are you arguing he’s wrong that therapy would help?

“Lived experience” of what exactly?

If you mean he’s had poor mental health himself, that doesn’t make him in any way qualified to advocate for other people with mh problems, nor even to understand how the difficulties that normal people have accessing the support they need very frequently exacerbates their mental health problems, and that is unlikely to get better any time soon.
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wellards · 24/09/2021 23:18

I don't understand why people care so much, no-one forces you to read about them.

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Plumtree391 · 24/09/2021 23:19

Charming.

I've had psychotherapy which lasted for a very long time and I paid for it, so do most people as the NHS only offer eight sessions and there is a waiting list. There are many psychotherapy practices who accept people who cannot pay or can pay just a little.

Mental health services and charities need non clinical staff who have had mental health problems and can speak about them. It's very helpful to hear 'testimony' from others who've been in the same boat and found ways to cope. Prince Harry is equipped for this role, not only because of his own experiences but his mother's and his wife's.

It's quite outrageous for Harry to be accused of not having a moral compass.

He lives in America - in California - where it is more common to talk about mental health problems and personal struggles. Prince Harry speaking out about such things is good, it shows that no amount of money or privilege (which I do resent anybody from having), makes anyone immune from such things, it is a great leveller.

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BiteyCatII · 24/09/2021 23:20

YANBU the lack of awareness both he and Meghan show is quite amazing. There’s Haz unable to enable his suicidal wife to get help, acting as some sort of an advisor for a MH charity while Meghan is off to a school in Harlem where 94% of the pupils are on free school meals, hugging the kids and reading them her book ‘The Bench‘. No matter that a good proportion of the kids are from single parent families as long as she gets an opportunity to Merch her crap book. The pair of them, are hypocritical and seem self-absorbed and entitled.

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Sarahlou63 · 24/09/2021 23:22

@MrsWhites

I think they really struggle to read the room so to speak.

Just this week for example they encourage people to reduce their carbon footprint whilst travelling around New York in a convoy of 3 4x4’s and turn up at a primary school where 94% of pupils qualify for financial support wearing a $7.5k trouser suit.

Almost a direct quote from the Daily Mail. Well done you!
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wellards · 24/09/2021 23:23

The pair of them, are hypocritical and seem self-absorbed and entitled.

Anyone would think they were Royals!

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StaplesCorner · 24/09/2021 23:23

What charity though? Has Op gone to bed? Can they come back and say what charity is paying him a 6 figure sum?

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LocalHobo · 24/09/2021 23:25

I think people are being unfair to Harry, it must be difficult to be cut off financially by your dad before you're even 40

He has inherited from Diana plus around £7 million from the Queen Mother so I'm sure he can manage.
I think Harry believes he has valid opinions to be heard regarding mental health. I'm not sure he is correct.

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willrufford · 24/09/2021 23:25

I blame The Firm, they should have let him get a career after they made him leave the Army. Similarly Andrew.
They let Anne & Edward build lives outside The Firm. They are so far from the Throne it didn't matter.
No I don't know how to solve the security and safety problem if he stayed in UK.

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Mummyoflittledragon · 24/09/2021 23:25

@Ozanj
How could Harry help millions from a tv show? I am trying to think how and keep in visualising David Miscavige or an American tv preacher.

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