Prince Harry - something bugging me...

[StinkingCold]

Sorry, another Harry thread

Anyway, couple of things have been really bugging me recently...

1. He is getting paid 6 figures to be some advisor of a mental health charity

1. He has had 4 years therapy and is encouraging everyone else to get help like him

Now...here's my gripes!!...

1. What qualifications does he have to earn this salary as a mental health advisor?????? I've worked in mental health over 20 years, have an undergrad, MSc and Doctorate in a mh field, and have lectured on aspects of MH in my field. Despite my qualifications and experience, I would not consider myself qualified for a 6-figure salaried advisory post on mental health. So with zero qualifications or experience, how the hec does Harry think he is qualified to earn a six figure salary advising on the topic????? It just feels so naive and arrogant.

1. Good for you Harry, having 4 years therapy. Now in the real world, there is not 1 single NHS trust in the entire country likely to offer 4 years of therapy, or even 2, or even 1. Very difficult to even access 6 months or 3 months. Even for people who really really need it. I'm talking high risk, or whose functioning is severely impacted by their mental.health. The reality when you "seek help" for you mental health is a massive wait list followed by 6 sessions of guided self help over the phone. If you are really 'lucky' you might also be allowed to attend a short group programme of 6 sessions, maybe 12, probably on zoom. If you miss a couple.of appointments because you didn't get the letter, or phone was broken, or you were simply too unwell to get to your appointments, you'll probably lose the offer of the group or guided self help. If you have endured long and complex, multiple trauma, are self harming frequently, and drinking alot and overdosing - you might get offered 12 or 24 sessions of (probably group, maybe online only) DBT - but only if you really beg and show you are very very keen and won't miss any sessions. For most people, there is simply nothing. Maybe a referral to a charity for 4 sessions of counselling.

What planet are you on Harry. I wish wish wish you would realise how privileged you are to indulge yourself in 4 years of therapy, and that you could recognise your privilege. Wouldn't it be great if you could use you power and privilege to actually change the mental health system (in the UK) and advocate for more availability of therapeutic services, and maybe even donate large sums of cash to making therapy more available and accessible to the masses. I don't want to hear anymore about how therapy changed you, opened your eyes etc... Most of us simply.cant afford to go private, and the NHS is at breaking point and can't offer what is needed

[quote Theythinkitsalloveritisnow]@Why2why are you a member of their PR team or something? Your love for them really does look a teeny bit over the top if you're not being paid for it.[/quote]
I don’t hate them and if this means I “love” them and if my love for them is over the top, imagine what your hate for them must look like.

As to being part of their PR team, that might be a fun gig. Alas I have a much less glamorous job but I’m not complaining.

Where have I referred to them in derogatory terms? I don't like the royal family, I don't like H+M, I don't have to like them and I am allowed to say so. I'm leaving this now because I'm not prepared to waste a Saturday evening arguing about bloody H+M. No doubt you'll say I'm running away but the truth is I simply don't care enough about this to expend more time on it.

[quote Theythinkitsalloveritisnow]@Why2why I don't obsess about them I've just posted a couple of times on a thread about them, you know, kind of what happens on a forum. I think they are very privileged and it would be nice for them to actually acknowledge that. As to what I think they should spend their time doing, I just suggested helping the homelessness problems in LA. That's all. It's you who seems a little obsessed and extremely defensive about people you don't know.[/quote]
I defend those who are abused and bullied just for existing while mixed race, married to a mixed race person and having the audacity to assert their rights to self-determination.

The abuse aimed at them is aimed at all who share similar experiences. I don’t know them but I know you. I see you. Get a life and stop your petty and irrational hatred. Learn to live yourself and others who are normal law-abiding citizens. You’ll be happier for it.

Where have I referred to them in derogatory terms?

You will see I said 'those' that talk about them in derogatory terms.

It's rude to say 'are you a member of their PR team?'
Weak argument.

It happens time and time again on these threads.

@Theythinkitsalloveritisnow For someone who keeps saying they don’t care about H&M and keep finding excuses to not engage with other posters who highlight the flaws in your negative posts, you’re awfully active on this thread…

Aha, but you see Harry is not just brilliant. He's so brilliant and overqualified that he has not 1, but 2 6 figure roles and isn't even required to show up to the office on any regular sort of basis. I heard on the grapevine that him and team also approached a very well known mental health app company that utilizes celebrities to raise its profile. It was just about to be floated for 200 million dollars, as I recall. After all this work by its founders, he walks in with his team at a meeting, spurts off some pseudo business/MH speak and then proposes that they can use his name/face to associate with their product for a % cut of the company value. I don't know the exact starting point, but apparently his final offer of 1% (2 million dollars) was rejected and that eyebrows were raised. If true, I could well believe him having that level of arrogance.

Could you provide a source for that?
How do you know all this?

The 'grapevine' really doesn't cut it for me I'm afraid.

@Hugoslavia. I read that somewhere too. But if he's happy to hustle at a public working engagement to get his wife work with Disney, it's not surprising he has a high view of his own worth.

I read that somewhere too

Where?

Why single out Harry - every royal speaks out as if they are an authority on things. All they get is a short briefing - then the are off 'sharing their wisdom' and we keep them in lavish circumstances for it.

All the bleating in the world is not going to change how these things work. If whoever is paying him didn't think he was worth it then they wouldn't pay him. It has fuck all to do with what mental health qualifications he has. The naivety is astounding. No bloody wonder we get called peasants!

[quote Porridgealert]@Hugoslavia. I read that somewhere too. But if he's happy to hustle at a public working engagement to get his wife work with Disney, it's not surprising he has a high view of his own worth.[/quote]
Clearly others agree he is worth a lot. So far the evidence points in that direction rather than the opposite.

Good that he has a healthy sense of his importance. You should take a leaf out of his book because that would stop you from wasting your time hating someone you don’t know.

Have a healthy sense of your worth and stop consuming your life with negativity. Love yourself more.

@TheKeatingFive. I dont remember. It was a company exec that released the info on them. It was a tech company that was being floated but I can't remember in what area they worked. I`m pretty sure he originally asked for 5% but beat himself down to 1%. 🤣 Google it. I read it online so it's out there somewhere.

Completely agree, OP

@Why2why I'm not sure they do all think he's worth a lot. That tech company didn't. The charity that refused to pay for their helicopter didn't.

Hey, it's my time to waste. Who made you the guardian of what can be said or not said? Did MN give you a badge or something? I haven't said anything hateful about him because I don't hate him. I was sorry when he left the UK because I thought he and Meghan were a great addition. But it's become clear since that neither of them had the strength of character for the position. Not everyone is cut out for the role, no shame in that, so they're best off gone for their own sakes. But he does give me a laugh. The last set of pictures of him shrunk and peering over her shoulder were priceless.

If you feel there's negativity on here, why don't you give yourself a break from trying to patrol other people's posts. You won't change their mind and you can't stop them posting what they want. I feel you're getting yourself all upset. Why not have a little chuckle at him. It'll cheer you up no end.

[quote Porridgealert]@Why2why I'm not sure they do all think he's worth a lot. That tech company didn't. The charity that refused to pay for their helicopter didn't.

Hey, it's my time to waste. Who made you the guardian of what can be said or not said? Did MN give you a badge or something? I haven't said anything hateful about him because I don't hate him. I was sorry when he left the UK because I thought he and Meghan were a great addition. But it's become clear since that neither of them had the strength of character for the position. Not everyone is cut out for the role, no shame in that, so they're best off gone for their own sakes. But he does give me a laugh. The last set of pictures of him shrunk and peering over her shoulder were priceless.

If you feel there's negativity on here, why don't you give yourself a break from trying to patrol other people's posts. You won't change their mind and you can't stop them posting what they want. I feel you're getting yourself all upset. Why not have a little chuckle at him. It'll cheer you up no end.[/quote]
What are you talking about?

@Roussette

Why do posters do this? Call them part of their PR team, a shill, a bot or whatever?

It's a discussion forum and a different opinion to yours @Theythinkitsalloveritisnow.

Weird.

Those that don't talk about Harry or Meghan in horrible derogatory terms don't ask posters that do, if they are part of the royal PR team, so why do this?
It means you don't have an answer as far as I'm concerned.

@Why2why great post of yours at 19.50

No, they don’t ask if they’re part of the PR team, but they infer that all posters who ‘hate’ H and M are bots or multiple name changers Etc etc. Reference the awful hateful behaviour towards them on other threads. Etc etc. It cuts both ways.

@Why2why. Oh OK. Why don't you just say you don't want to respond. Or just ignore my post. Implying that you don't understand my English is just rude. But it tells me a lot about you.

Actually, @Why2why, I apologise and I withdraw my comment above ^. I can see you don't want to engage and its none of my business why. I have a right to post what I want and so it would be hypocritical for me to criticise you for posting what you want. So lets both of us post on.

I think Harry wouldn't be aware enough of his lack of knowledge and abilities. I think I'd call out the organisation, not him.

@Autumngoldleaf

Oh goodness, the" family" washed up, that devoured his mother... Forced him to walk behind her coffin like chucking him as bait for the wolves howling because Tony Blair said they must do something? That family... Wow to be honest I'd say his therapy has worked and he's been able to stand up too and break away from arguably the most rotten fucked up slimy family in the world that happens to be the most powerful!!

I'd tend to agree. I think Jarry has seen the light!

Harry*

@Washeduponthebeach

Not once in the years I've been in and off these threads have I ever ever seen those who are anti H&M called a 'bot'. Never.
Me..I've been called that endlessly along with many other ridiculous terms.

Name changers..yes if course because it's true. Not everyone of course but it has been prolific in the past

I think your mental health would improve if you did not invest so much thought into Harry's life.

Work on your own life. Exercise, meditation, mindfulness, connecting with nature, cognitive behavioural therapy and antidepressants are all options.

@JustLyra

He’s as qualified as most other celebrity advisors to big charities.

It’s about his name. Not his qualifications.

Most celebrity advisors/ambassadors aren't paid.