Prince Harry - something bugging me...

[StinkingCold]

Sorry, another Harry thread

Anyway, couple of things have been really bugging me recently...

1. He is getting paid 6 figures to be some advisor of a mental health charity

1. He has had 4 years therapy and is encouraging everyone else to get help like him

Now...here's my gripes!!...

1. What qualifications does he have to earn this salary as a mental health advisor?????? I've worked in mental health over 20 years, have an undergrad, MSc and Doctorate in a mh field, and have lectured on aspects of MH in my field. Despite my qualifications and experience, I would not consider myself qualified for a 6-figure salaried advisory post on mental health. So with zero qualifications or experience, how the hec does Harry think he is qualified to earn a six figure salary advising on the topic????? It just feels so naive and arrogant.

1. Good for you Harry, having 4 years therapy. Now in the real world, there is not 1 single NHS trust in the entire country likely to offer 4 years of therapy, or even 2, or even 1. Very difficult to even access 6 months or 3 months. Even for people who really really need it. I'm talking high risk, or whose functioning is severely impacted by their mental.health. The reality when you "seek help" for you mental health is a massive wait list followed by 6 sessions of guided self help over the phone. If you are really 'lucky' you might also be allowed to attend a short group programme of 6 sessions, maybe 12, probably on zoom. If you miss a couple.of appointments because you didn't get the letter, or phone was broken, or you were simply too unwell to get to your appointments, you'll probably lose the offer of the group or guided self help. If you have endured long and complex, multiple trauma, are self harming frequently, and drinking alot and overdosing - you might get offered 12 or 24 sessions of (probably group, maybe online only) DBT - but only if you really beg and show you are very very keen and won't miss any sessions. For most people, there is simply nothing. Maybe a referral to a charity for 4 sessions of counselling.

What planet are you on Harry. I wish wish wish you would realise how privileged you are to indulge yourself in 4 years of therapy, and that you could recognise your privilege. Wouldn't it be great if you could use you power and privilege to actually change the mental health system (in the UK) and advocate for more availability of therapeutic services, and maybe even donate large sums of cash to making therapy more available and accessible to the masses. I don't want to hear anymore about how therapy changed you, opened your eyes etc... Most of us simply.cant afford to go private, and the NHS is at breaking point and can't offer what is needed

I think hes going to go back to the RF. He's in training for the position of court jester. He's already got the juggling down pat.

[quote UrbanRambler]@JustLyra I stand corrected, I just googled it and found that you are correct, M is indeed a princess, technically speaking. She seems to have displayed signs of princess syndrome for much of her life, so marrying a prince was no doubt very appealing to her.[/quote]
That’s why all the people calling for the removal of the Sussex title should be careful what they wish for.

Without that they’d be Prince and Princess Henry, similar to Prince and Princess Michael of Kent, and “Princess Henry” would last five minutes before the press swapped to Princess Meghan.

Sorry but why would any of that bug you? What does it even have to do with you?

*that she’s a princess technically I mean.

I don’t have an opinion on her manner before marrying Harry as I know nothing about her.

I was expecting him to focus on his work in South Africa and continue where his mum left off, its something that he has always been spoken passionately about. I didn't think he'd jump into the celebrity lifestyle and pimp himself around Silicon Valley - I find that somewhat jarring (and disappointing).

Yes, I used to have a lot of respect for him, but the way his life has turned out is incredibly disappointing. Just another celebrity wannabe spouting a lot of hot air.

In the same vein you could question what actual qualifications Kate Middleton has to want to "change the way we think about early years" and live the life of someone who is "paid 6 figures" which she effectively is with the "compensation" she receives. I do wonder what a professional could have come up with after so many years of research.

The answer is the same for Harry and Kate. The difference is that Kate was lauded by most on here. Hypocrisy much.

ALL members of the Royal Family are overpaid figureheads and, for most members, the charities they do represent get very little press attention. How many people can really name, of the top of their heads, 10 charities supported by Princess Anne - "the hardest working Royal"? If we moan about Harry then we need to be equally moaning about all other members of the Royal Family.

When he was interviews by Bryony Gordon in 2017, Harry said he had been in therapy for three years (since 2014).

Now, in 2021, he rewrites history to say he has only been in therapy for four years, since he met Meghan.

It is strange.

@Washeduponthebeach

He’s got enough money to train in any field he wants to. He could join the Army in the US and get a desk job.

Yes, a prince of the UK should retrain so he can work in the US military. That makes complete sense!

Harry would (and does) get a hammering no matter what he does or says.
If he was flogging watches or nespresso capsules à la George Clooney (who can't be short of a few quid) people would a field day!!!
He's not doing any harm and he might do some good.
I'm sure he's not short of "brand ambassador" offers

@BoredZelda

I’m always curious what job people think he should do

Everyone claims he was supposed to run off and stand on his own two feet, but he has been criticised for every single thing he has done to try and earn money. Did people really expect him to get a job in Tesco? Although even then I’m sure he would criticised for taking a job from some poor soul who needs it.

I agree with this. If he can support himself and his family it's none of our business really and I'm far from a fan of him and Meghan.

Very very well said @StinkingCold - I completely agree.

Sorry but why would any of that bug you? What does it even have to do with you?

I find this strange too. The sense of ownership some people feel over him and his choices

Is it the mental ‘deal’ they feel they have with the Royal
family I wonder? The Royals get all the riches and palaces but in return they’re public property? Hmm.

@VeryBerry22

When he was interviews by Bryony Gordon in 2017, Harry said he had been in therapy for three years (since 2014).

Now, in 2021, he rewrites history to say he has only been in therapy for four years, since he met Meghan.

It is strange.

No, when he was interviewed by Bryony Gordon he said he had sought counselling. Therapy wasn't mentioned.

Reports of what he said this year vary - this was a speech at an event in Miami where the press weren't present, so they got their information third hand. The Daily Mail says he said he was in counselling up to 2017 when Meghan persuaded him to seek therapy. On the other hand, Cosmopolitan claims he said he had 7 years of therapy whilst the Sun claims he said he had 3 years of therapy. So I'm not clear that he has rewritten history. This looks more likely to be the press failing to accurately report what he actually said.

I wonder if his job at BetterUp is to qualify him for a work visa (as a spokesperson??) because I very much doubt the job is about him offering any type of counselling.

His high profile will attract media so he’s getting paid a lot for that. He’s mega rich so can definitely afford to pay for therapy.

@TheKeatingFive

Sorry but why would any of that bug you? What does it even have to do with you?

I find this strange too. The sense of ownership some people feel over him and his choices

Is it the mental ‘deal’ they feel they have with the Royal
family I wonder? The Royals get all the riches and palaces but in return they’re public property? Hmm.

Exactly.

Analysed in the cold light of day, this desperate obsession with these two people is sad and pathetic.

Harry and Meghan are not British public property. They have left yet those who hate them the most are those who obsess the most over their every move. Dissecting everything thing they do, wear, eat and God knows what else.

It can’t possibly add anything to their lives other that give them heart trouble every time Harry and Meghan move forward with their lives. So much time is spent theorising, wondering, speculating. So much nonsense.

Maya Angelou’s poem “Still I Rise” is so apt.

Since H+M have decided to live in LA, I think a really good thing for them to get involved in would be trying to improve the terrible homelessness problems there. I would have a lot more respect for them if they got stuck into that and did something that actuallly helps local people in living desperate circumstances. One of the things I find deeply unpleasant is their constant playing the victim while living in a mansion in a city with horrendous homelessness problems.

@StinkingCold

Sorry, another Harry thread

Anyway, couple of things have been really bugging me recently...

1. He is getting paid 6 figures to be some advisor of a mental health charity

1. He has had 4 years therapy and is encouraging everyone else to get help like him

Now...here's my gripes!!...

1. What qualifications does he have to earn this salary as a mental health advisor?????? I've worked in mental health over 20 years, have an undergrad, MSc and Doctorate in a mh field, and have lectured on aspects of MH in my field. Despite my qualifications and experience, I would not consider myself qualified for a 6-figure salaried advisory post on mental health. So with zero qualifications or experience, how the hec does Harry think he is qualified to earn a six figure salary advising on the topic????? It just feels so naive and arrogant.

1. Good for you Harry, having 4 years therapy. Now in the real world, there is not 1 single NHS trust in the entire country likely to offer 4 years of therapy, or even 2, or even 1. Very difficult to even access 6 months or 3 months. Even for people who really really need it. I'm talking high risk, or whose functioning is severely impacted by their mental.health. The reality when you "seek help" for you mental health is a massive wait list followed by 6 sessions of guided self help over the phone. If you are really 'lucky' you might also be allowed to attend a short group programme of 6 sessions, maybe 12, probably on zoom. If you miss a couple.of appointments because you didn't get the letter, or phone was broken, or you were simply too unwell to get to your appointments, you'll probably lose the offer of the group or guided self help. If you have endured long and complex, multiple trauma, are self harming frequently, and drinking alot and overdosing - you might get offered 12 or 24 sessions of (probably group, maybe online only) DBT - but only if you really beg and show you are very very keen and won't miss any sessions. For most people, there is simply nothing. Maybe a referral to a charity for 4 sessions of counselling.

What planet are you on Harry. I wish wish wish you would realise how privileged you are to indulge yourself in 4 years of therapy, and that you could recognise your privilege. Wouldn't it be great if you could use you power and privilege to actually change the mental health system (in the UK) and advocate for more availability of therapeutic services, and maybe even donate large sums of cash to making therapy more available and accessible to the masses. I don't want to hear anymore about how therapy changed you, opened your eyes etc... Most of us simply.cant afford to go private, and the NHS is at breaking point and can't offer what is needed

Well his pregnant wife wanted to kill herself and when her mum died brutally in a car accident someone stood there taking photos of her before he later had to walk behind her coffin in front of the world's media at the ago of, what was it, 9? The racist abuse of his little family continues to be sickening, too.

Just leave the guy alone, think what you want to think in private, but why just add to the deafening mob?

@HelpMeFindAName

In the same vein you could question what actual qualifications Kate Middleton has to want to "change the way we think about early years" and live the life of someone who is "paid 6 figures" which she effectively is with the "compensation" she receives. I do wonder what a professional could have come up with after so many years of research.

The answer is the same for Harry and Kate. The difference is that Kate was lauded by most on here. Hypocrisy much.

ALL members of the Royal Family are overpaid figureheads and, for most members, the charities they do represent get very little press attention. How many people can really name, of the top of their heads, 10 charities supported by Princess Anne - "the hardest working Royal"? If we moan about Harry then we need to be equally moaning about all other members of the Royal Family.

This.

@Theythinkitsalloveritisnow

Since H+M have decided to live in LA, I think a really good thing for them to get involved in would be trying to improve the terrible homelessness problems there. I would have a lot more respect for them if they got stuck into that and did something that actuallly helps local people in living desperate circumstances. One of the things I find deeply unpleasant is their constant playing the victim while living in a mansion in a city with horrendous homelessness problems.

Can you give examples of them CONSTANTLY playing the victim? Do you count calling out racism playing victim? Do you call raising awareness of mental health experience playing the victim? And why should you decide what charitable work they do? Should they base their decision on pleasing someone who does not like them and never will like them?

Why don’t you obsess over people who do the things you like and respect? Spend your time on those who inspire you and leave these two people alone. Do you not have anything positive to focus on in your life?

Enjoy your life and shed the negativity.

Meghan is looking brilliant by the way and the two are having huge positive impact and with key world leaders too. Well done to them. I always love a success story especially when so many haters are wishing them ill. Leaving the UK was clearly a very good decision. They are probably thanking their haters for making all of this possible. . They clearly use negativity as positive fuel

@emuloc the double standard and hypocrisy are so embarrassing. I feel ashamed for these people who beat their chest in anger when Harry and Meghan do something they praise Kate and William for.

The behaviour is so stupid.

@Why2why I don't obsess about them I've just posted a couple of times on a thread about them, you know, kind of what happens on a forum. I think they are very privileged and it would be nice for them to actually acknowledge that. As to what I think they should spend their time doing, I just suggested helping the homelessness problems in LA. That's all. It's you who seems a little obsessed and extremely defensive about people you don't know.

@Why2why are you a member of their PR team or something? Your love for them really does look a teeny bit over the top if you're not being paid for it.

I would have a lot more respect for them if...

No you wouldn't. Parroting right wing media talking points makes it pretty obvious you would criticise anything they did or didn't do. It's embarrassing.

Why do posters do this? Call them part of their PR team, a shill, a bot or whatever?

It's a discussion forum and a different opinion to yours @Theythinkitsalloveritisnow.

Weird.

Those that don't talk about Harry or Meghan in horrible derogatory terms don't ask posters that do, if they are part of the royal PR team, so why do this?
It means you don't have an answer as far as I'm concerned.

@Why2why great post of yours at 19.50