Prince Harry - something bugging me...

[StinkingCold]

Sorry, another Harry thread

Anyway, couple of things have been really bugging me recently...

1. He is getting paid 6 figures to be some advisor of a mental health charity

1. He has had 4 years therapy and is encouraging everyone else to get help like him

Now...here's my gripes!!...

1. What qualifications does he have to earn this salary as a mental health advisor?????? I've worked in mental health over 20 years, have an undergrad, MSc and Doctorate in a mh field, and have lectured on aspects of MH in my field. Despite my qualifications and experience, I would not consider myself qualified for a 6-figure salaried advisory post on mental health. So with zero qualifications or experience, how the hec does Harry think he is qualified to earn a six figure salary advising on the topic????? It just feels so naive and arrogant.

1. Good for you Harry, having 4 years therapy. Now in the real world, there is not 1 single NHS trust in the entire country likely to offer 4 years of therapy, or even 2, or even 1. Very difficult to even access 6 months or 3 months. Even for people who really really need it. I'm talking high risk, or whose functioning is severely impacted by their mental.health. The reality when you "seek help" for you mental health is a massive wait list followed by 6 sessions of guided self help over the phone. If you are really 'lucky' you might also be allowed to attend a short group programme of 6 sessions, maybe 12, probably on zoom. If you miss a couple.of appointments because you didn't get the letter, or phone was broken, or you were simply too unwell to get to your appointments, you'll probably lose the offer of the group or guided self help. If you have endured long and complex, multiple trauma, are self harming frequently, and drinking alot and overdosing - you might get offered 12 or 24 sessions of (probably group, maybe online only) DBT - but only if you really beg and show you are very very keen and won't miss any sessions. For most people, there is simply nothing. Maybe a referral to a charity for 4 sessions of counselling.

What planet are you on Harry. I wish wish wish you would realise how privileged you are to indulge yourself in 4 years of therapy, and that you could recognise your privilege. Wouldn't it be great if you could use you power and privilege to actually change the mental health system (in the UK) and advocate for more availability of therapeutic services, and maybe even donate large sums of cash to making therapy more available and accessible to the masses. I don't want to hear anymore about how therapy changed you, opened your eyes etc... Most of us simply.cant afford to go private, and the NHS is at breaking point and can't offer what is needed

How can he advise any charity on anything though? He’s clueless! What he is qualified to talk about?

Oh don't be ridiculous.

You say he's clueless, the CEO and management of the company are obviously clueless too then.
For employing him in the first place.

How can he advise any charity on anything though? He’s clueless! What he is qualified to talk about?

Ask the board of management who appointed him, it’s their money. Presumably the see value in having him on board even if you don’t.

@Washeduponthebeach

How can he advise any charity on anything though? He’s clueless! What he is qualified to talk about?

Just to repeat again, the OP is wrong. He hasn't been appointed as an advisor to a charity. He has been appointed to a role as Chief Impact Officer (not a job title I've come across before) with a business.

They’re using his name to raise their profile. That doesn’t mean they think he has any expertise to being.

Bring

They’re using his name to raise their profile. That doesn’t mean they think he has any expertise to being.

Sure, so why are you asking the question?

No course not

No expertise, completely useless in fact. What were this $2billion company thinking????

In a press release, BetterUP CEO and co-founder Alexi Robichaux applauded Prince Harry's previous work in founding the Invictus Games, a competition for injured service personnel and veterans that promotes sport as a tool for physical and psychological recovery, and Sentebale, which offers mental health and wellbeing support to children and young people affected by HIV in Lesotho and Botswana

It’s not a Harry’s job to fund the NHS…
Also, How do you know he hasn’t secretly donated or raised money for the nhs? Harry isn’t a working royal..probs due to all the hate he got from the UK. You lot moaned about him getting tax payer money. Now he’s working and getting his own money - you’re complaining. Harry and megs are now celebs and many celebs are ambassadors for charity and get paid for it.

Also I think the charity is being business minded and employed Harry as it would draw in more buzz and more donations.

I know you don’t like it OP, but respectfully get a grip and move on with your life.

Well said, Babochan.

What Harry and Meghan are doing, or trying to do, is no different to many other wealthy and high profile people. If it makes some people think and campaign for change, it is commendable.

Both have always had well developed social consciences which is something that drew them together. They have also given up extremely successful and promising careers, his in the army and hers, acting. It takes time to re-establish yourself in another area. Harry has also given up much more since his marriage and first baby.

Let's give them encouragement rather than criticism, they're still feeling their way.

@Babochan88

It’s not a Harry’s job to fund the NHS… Also, How do you know he hasn’t secretly donated or raised money for the nhs? Harry isn’t a working royal..probs due to all the hate he got from the UK. You lot moaned about him getting tax payer money. Now he’s working and getting his own money - you’re complaining. Harry and megs are now celebs and many celebs are ambassadors for charity and get paid for it.

Also I think the charity is being business minded and employed Harry as it would draw in more buzz and more donations.

I know you don’t like it OP, but respectfully get a grip and move on with your life.

This.

There has been a lot of (deliberate?) misinformation on this thread, from OP and other posters (interesting that OP hasn’t returned), and it’s typical of the approach people take to H&M - twist the facts to suit a certain narrative.

This is a business in the US. It isn’t a charity and has nothing whatsoever to do with the NHS, yet many posters here have manipulated the facts to complain about it being a charity (wrong) and complain about the NHS (which has nothing to do with Harry).

@GrolliffetheDragon

Agree with you and felt the same about the Duke & Duchess of Cambridge breaking down stigma and encouraging people to get help. What help? Do they have any idea what it's like to try and access NHS mental health services? And I'm not having a go at the NHS, generally staff are doing their damned best in very difficult circumstances, often to the detriment of their own physical and mental well-being.

One of my patients this week was a MH nurse who lost a patient through suicide recently because they were unable to access the help,that this patient needed. The nurse had worked in MH for 30 years and said they had never seen so many patients suffering and struggling for so long and being so unable to get them the help they needed.

The nurse themselves is now burnt out. Depressed. Anxious. In need to MH support themselves which I can refer them to.....but the waiting list where they are is 2 years. So I signed them off for a month or stress....a sticking plaster on a festering wound. During that month their colleagues will take on their workload and this nurse will return feeling guilty to a workplace even more stretched and strained.

Royals have no fucking idea. A tiny bit of the money that is wasted on those parasites could invest in MH services and save fucking lives.

@Autumngoldleaf

Oh goodness, the" family" washed up, that devoured his mother... Forced him to walk behind her coffin like chucking him as bait for the wolves howling because Tony Blair said they must do something? That family... Wow to be honest I'd say his therapy has worked and he's been able to stand up too and break away from arguably the most rotten fucked up slimy family in the world that happens to be the most powerful!!

Another of my patients....sexually abused by her father and then thrown out of home and onto the streets by her mother who said she was lying. Lived on the streets for years and repeatedly raped and assaulted. Addicted to heroin and forced to work as a prostitute to pay for her drugs by 20. Now 45 and, after several abusive relationships, managed to get off the streets and off the drugs and now living in a grotty house share with people half her age.

What help can I offer her? Fuck all.

@HelpMeFindAName

In the same vein you could question what actual qualifications Kate Middleton has to want to "change the way we think about early years" and live the life of someone who is "paid 6 figures" which she effectively is with the "compensation" she receives. I do wonder what a professional could have come up with after so many years of research.

The answer is the same for Harry and Kate. The difference is that Kate was lauded by most on here. Hypocrisy much.

ALL members of the Royal Family are overpaid figureheads and, for most members, the charities they do represent get very little press attention. How many people can really name, of the top of their heads, 10 charities supported by Princess Anne - "the hardest working Royal"? If we moan about Harry then we need to be equally moaning about all other members of the Royal Family.

I am. They are all a bunch of parasites that this country would be better without.

I am. They are all a bunch of parasites that this country would be better without.

Harry and Meghan receive no taxpayers money at all. Not a single penny.

@StripeyBadger

He doesn’t need any qualifications. Just his royal connections as they garner media coverage and that’s what the charity wants.

That's all he has to offer to any person or organisation wanting to be connected with him. Unfortunately for him because of his behaviour his name will become less and less bankable, he is fast becoming a joke,

Unfortunately for him because of his behaviour his name will become less and less bankable, he is fast becoming a joke,

I know many people want this to be the case, but I don’t see much evidence this is what’s happening on the ground.

A joke to you

Not to others.

Sorry to disappoint

@prh47bridge

I am. They are all a bunch of parasites that this country would be better without.

Harry and Meghan receive no taxpayers money at all. Not a single penny.

We really don’t know that for sure. I bet Charles is still giving them money.

I bet Charles is still giving them money

That's the way rumours start on here. Next minute that'll be quoted as fact

I've worked for several charities with Royal patrons. I can guarantee that the royals do not get paid for their patronage, and also that the royals enable themselves to be 'used' in order to raise funds e.g. appearing at gala events, meeting major donors, putting their name to campaigns. They are very aware that their time = cash for the causes they patronise. Harry isn't being paid by a charity. He and his brother and Kate have done more than any other public figures I know to destigmatise mental health through their campaigning. I'm no royalist or particular fan of Harry's but it's wrong to put blame on him for the poor state of mental health provision in the UK.

This reminds me of the whole Molly-Mae off love island securing a massive role at an online clothes brand. Can't remember which. No qualifications or experience, it's a job (and salary) for someone with a related degree and 10 years plus industry experience.

I just wish they'd come out and say they've made them the face of the company or whatever rather than giving them a pretend job for publicity that they're clearly not doing.

I have a friend who works in a very senior role within a large national charity and earns 90k a year. She puts in 8am-6pm ABSOLUTE minimum daily plus commute time. And has 20 years experience in industry.

He simply does not do the job.

I bet Charles is still giving them money.

Perhaps he is, but he has ample personal wealth also, so where it’s coming from won’t be possible to track down. Also as Harry’s father he can support him if he wants to, like any parent.

If you have issues with Royals and public money, the ones to focus on are those officially getting Sovereign Grant and Duchy payments.

He simply does not do the job

You know that from insider information?

Are you saying Harry is working full time then Rousette? Really?