Why is Sabina Nessa murder not all over the media?

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Such a tragic killing and sad, truly awful to hear about this murder.

Though I can't understand why, it doesn't get the same media/public attention as Sarah Everard who died in similarly tragic circumstances not long ago.

Both are equally tragic, two young women attacked in similar circumstances - the only difference I can see in these cases is the colour of their skin. Sarah's murder was everywhere - before we knew it was a police officer responsible.

Women had lined the streets in protest to make the country a safer place for women.

I can't help but notice where are these women protesting for Sabina? Or for the Killmarsh murders, or other women of colour?

The media treats women of colour - even to this day - very differently to white women.

It feels like the media are sending a clear message that black lives STILL 'don't matter' quite as much as their white counterparts.

There is white and there is not white enough just an fyi

What is this even supposed to mean?

@Theoldprospector

The report on this case is the second most read U.K. news story in the Guardian today.

And the top story in the racist Daily Mail.

I agree OP

@Eesha

I felt exactly the same Op. It was much lower on the DM yesterday, towards the bottom, then this morning it's at the top.c I only really started thinking about this when Maddeline Mccann went missing and remains a huge news story. Then when those two sisters were murdered reasonably near me, it should have been one of the biggest stories. I just wondered whether people thought they were two black girls out late and somehow 'paid the price for that'. I can imagine if they were white, their names would gave been plastered over the media. I assume this story is not being given much press because she might have known her perpetrator. There's definitely a strong element of race issues here.

Yea the park story was terrible - how can two sisters be murderer in a park and we barely know about the story even until this day? Sad

I can't comment on whether there is more coverage of murders of attractive young white women than older or different ethnicity women, however the two cases you mention were different but ultimately both women were found murdered

Sarah Everard was missing initially , feared kidnapped then found dead after 6 days of appeals and a hunt , and a police officer was arrested. That timeline generated a lot of necessary interest to try help find her as police allowed disclosure of quite a bit of information to help find her.

Sabina Messa was very sadly found dead. The police will only release selected information so not to compromise their investigation, as they aren't appealing to the public to find her but will be appealing for any sightings that can help solve her murder.

It seems to me that the difference in detail and coverage is about the circumstances and stage of investigation. At the point Savibas body was found, her family had right to privacy of shock and starting to grieve quietly at least for few days, whereas Sarah's family would have been wanting as much info out there to help find her at the start.

I've seen news of Sabina's murder all over front page of newspapers at least when I look online and am in a shop.

Both are so tragic , as are other murder of women (or anyone), & it particularly makes me angry that any woman cannot walk safely around after work, college or just out in general.

I've just heard about this on the radio - it was literally their headline news story.
Sarah Everard was missing for a few days before her body was found - also there was suspicion very early on her murderer was a police officer so that made it more of a story i guess.
Also Sarah was murdered at the height of Covid - so the media was probably looking to cover ANY other story ANYTHING for a bit of variety. I know that murders are horrible and tragic for all involved but sadly for the media it's just another story.

I genuinely don't think that has anything to do with the colour of the victims skins.

I think the majority of it is to do with the colour of her skin unfortunately - there is still a lot of subconscious (and conscious) racism in this country

However I believe the Sarah Everard case was in part advertised more because one of her friends was a journalist - so therefore knew how to spread the word and push it while she was missing

I agree with you entirely OP, it's a very sad truth that black and brown women are treated very differently to white women both through life and death. Shukri Abdi's death was absolutely awful yet there was very little coverage of it. Blessing Olusegun also went missing and was then found dead, actually around a similar time to Sarah Everard, but I don't remember seeing or hearing much about that and I would imagine that a lot of the people saying that there isn't an issue with race here probably haven't heard of her either. Unfortunately the list is endless when it comes to situations like this but because there are so many (mostly white) people not impacted by it, it won't be acknowledged as a problem.

@GatoradeMeBitch

It's probably too late at night to try and formulate this thought so I apologize if it comes across badly, not my intention, but in most cases the murderer is usually the same race as the victim, and I wonder if the media want to be careful to not add to negative/hateful stereotypes.

White men are really the only demographic in existence who can run around murdering and whatever else and it only reflects on them personally. In literally every other group the person will be held up as making everyone in their demographic look bad, and "see, this is why they can't be trusted/shouldn't have rights", so it becomes a more loaded issue.

Sorry if that sounded bollocks. But I agree that women of colour need as much representation in the media as white women, and as much assistance.

This is such a good point. I try to make this point to people IRL and they do not understand what I'm trying to say. I understand your point completely

@GCAcademic

More obfuscation from you. The poster made a general point. No one has said Sarah Everard was privileged.

I am giving up now. You are wilfully seeing what you want to see. You clearly think the same about me. Best to agree to disagree.

I would say the same too, that you are wilfully seeing what you want to see.

Sure, will agree to disagree.

I’d also like to point out that while I typed sabina’s name in incorrectly, I corrected it myself immediately as soon as I realised my error.
I did not require direction from anyone to do so and I apologize if my misspelling offended anyone.

Some people just don’t let the truth get in the way of a good bullshit made up narrative that they push.

Argh I mispelt her name- I meant Sabina Nessa nor Sabina Messa - small screen

So sad and she was only five minutes from home as well.

It is scary that women can't be safe just walking home :(
We live in a wicked world.

@TheFairPrincess

I don't know why people are pearl clutching so hard right now, is it guilt/defensiveness?

This is an absolutely well known social phenomenon with decades of evidence behind it.

I am a white woman, there are lots of connotations to that which I am aware of. People seem to be personally offended by this OP which is very strange. You are not the victim here. Literal murder victims are.

Completely agree. It is strange that the even just the smallest mention of potential race issues can invoke anger in some people.

Well it's not strange, it's likely defensiveness as you mention.

And I do take on board some posters saying IABu because the circumstances were different those are fair arguments too.

Since reading some of the other comments I still feel there is missing white woman syndrome going on - I don't necessarily feel that's the only reason for less coverage there are other factors too.

But this is most certainly one of them, the factors are not mutually exclusive.

Some murders just attract more attention than others. People get murdered every day, if every single one was headline news then all other news would be squeezed out. There isn't enough time or space to make every murder a priority.

I'd hazard a guess that the Everard murder got more coverage because the main suspect was a policeman. Whether that or another reason, some murders interest the public more than others. Even the OP couldn't be bothered to get the victim's name right in her title, and that's someone claims to care about this - you couldn't make it up!

Some people just don’t let the truth get in the way of a good bullshit made up narrative that they push.

Some people will do anything to keep the status quo. Is the Office for National Statistics bullshit too?

An old friend of mine was murdered by her partner very recently. White, British, wealthy ‘middle class’ family. One paragraph in the local newspaper and same on BBC news online.
Newsworthy stories seem to be ‘goes missing, can’t find body for a few days, stranger murder.’
Thousands of people black & white are murdered every year and very few hit the headlines.

OP, can you please request MNHQ correct your thread title?

You can see lots of posters on here have not read the news and are getting the victim’s name wrong due to the thread title.

It would be respectful to do so.

@nyktipolos fair point you raise. I agree with many of your points actually.

Male violence is for another thread maybe I will start that one.

I've just heard about this on the radio - it was literally their headline news story

Yes, today. Five days after she was found. It’s been bottom story news until last night.

To the people saying Sabina was Black are wrong. She’s not black. She’s Bangladeshi!!

When advocating for racism, at least get the victim’s ethnicities or even racial group correct!

Mshedgehog that is not true in London. It has never been at the bottom of the news. It's been headline news.

Yes, today. Five days after she was found. It’s been bottom story news until last night.

I saw it on the front page of the BBC news site a few days ago.

@Booknooks

Interesting how some people refer to anyone who isn't white as black. Also it's possible to discuss the bias without referencing SE specifically, why not just say the coverage white women get?

I apologise for this - I'm fully aware Sabina is Asian not black. I posted Black Lives Matter in the OP because I was trying to say non-white lives and should have put that instead of black lives.

She is clearly Asian not black but you see the point I'm making. When looking at the media the treatment is different to non white people.

As others point out, also poor, unattractive. Old people. I agree it's not just race based but in this particular case as they are both young and pretty I haven't highlighted those points.