To despise those that voted for Brexit when I’m doing my weekly shop

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So little stock on the shelves. Makes the weekly shop a complete nightmare as you just cannot meal plan anymore.

I didn’t vote for this absolute shit storm.

@Viviennemary

Yes a few things are out of stock. I'm sure we'll cope. Goodness knows what folk like you would do if you ever had to suffer real hardship.

That is the most rousing defence of Brexit I have ever read. "I'm sure we'll cope".

Brava!

I'm in South Yorkshire and definitely noticing some shortages! Lots of signs up everywhere announcing shortages too!

My husband works in supply chain/logistics and he's having a really rough time at work at the mo trying to navigate it all.

I also hate brexit!

@Elephantsparade

I think its unreasonable. I hold a huge resentment that there was a vote at all, the way the vote structured, and against both the remain and leave campaigns. But voters not so much.

THIS is an exceptionally wise post - thank you @Elephantsparade

It is those who were in charge of the whole profiteering shitshow that should be despised, not folk who voted Brexit sold to them on a pack of lies

@Booknooks

Sod that. So as long as we aren't starving to death it's all fine?

We have been spolt in this country though though an abundance of brands and food that's cheaper than a lot of places- mainly through the exploitation of cheap labour. Now those that accepted the cheap labour because it was better than back home have left, the supply chain is having to actually consider paying people a fair wage, and making jobs more desirable which they should have seen coming. No one is going to come near to starving, there just won't necessarily be as wide of a selection of stuff. A return to seasonal produce would be better for the environment as well, and the air miles some foods needlessly clock due to ridiculous arrangements is a disgrace. Carrots from abroad, why? Sending partially processed food abroad to be finished off and then returned and packaged for sale here, make it make sense. Hopefully it gives supermarkets the chance to reevaluate what they're doing, and for consumers to realise you don't need 20 brands of digestives- just a range of price points.

The most (only) sensible comment on this thread so far.

@Notthemessiah

It is awful to think how companies are going to have to pay British lorry drivers a decent wage rather than bringing in cheap East European ones to undercut them. Their poor profit margins.

well said.

OP the people you should be despising is the politicians of all colours who for decades have dealt with labour shortages by importing people from abroad instead of training our school leavers.

To qualify as a lorry driver in the UK involves ££££ and years of training. So much cheaper to bring in somebody from abroad who hasn't had the same level of training and is dangerous on the roads. When foreign lorry drivers first appeared on UK roads in the 90s we had daily accidents in Kent caused by them, some of them fatal.

We live in a rural area but our nearest supermarket, a Tesco, is at a junction on a major Scottish motorway. Every time we go in it now, the shelves have more and more gaps.

Prior to Brexit, I used to buy clothes online from retailers in the EU but I daren't do that now in case it takes months to arrive or I get slapped with an import tax bill!

Marks and Spencers have advised customers in the Republic of Ireland that they will not be offering a food order service this Christmas due to expected food supply chain issues.

It's difficult as I think wages should rise for lorry drivers & hospitality staff. Far too many people have been working for a pittance but that will mean stuff is more expensive.

Wonder will that be extended to the UK.

I've never heard anything so disgusting and utterly entitled in my life.
I've just been to Lidl and done a big weekly possibly 2 weekly shop for £22. I bought everything I needed all of the basics.
So a few shelves were empty but Im not sleeping on the street or starving like so many people in the world.

Other European countries are having similar problems.

This is obviously anecdotal, but I live on the continent, in a border region, so most weeks I shop in 3 different countries. No shortages anywhere. Some of the photos my friends from UK have been sending are shocking, like the last years of Soviet Union.

I'm with you OP. Our shelves were not too bad until recently but now it's got steadily worse.

I really got angry and cursed leave voters yesterday when I had to visit 4 different petrol stations to fill the car up.

@ilovesooty

And I will hate Johnson, Farage, Gove and the other lying Brexiteer politicians until the day I die.

Oh and Cameron too, for causing this mess.

There's plenty here.
I think its lorry drivers and covid rather than brexit.

@Maireas

It must be regional, there are no problems where I live (Yorkshire). Yesterday Tesco and M&S were very well stocked - almost pre Christmas level. No shortages. Maybe certain shops have better supply chains?

I’m in Yorkshire, it massively depends on your luck when you happen to go. Yesterday, no toothpaste (or very limited choice), today full shelves but not much fruit. Half of one aisle of freezers is totally empty.

Yes, I do blame people who voted for Brexit. They were warned and they fell for it, because they’d rather listen to Farage and read the Sun than listen to people who know what they’re talking about.

I despise those who brought us to Brexit, with their lies and their lack of a plan.

"Also the government is supposed to work for the people, democracy is diluated if those in power further away from the people are making decisions that effects those who they represent. This absolutely infuriates me ! "

Not sure how that is working out on all the people on minimum wage, zero hours. NHS, public sector all on no or pitiful pay rises while inflation's rising and we have the highest tax burden ever in this country.

Did the distance to Westminster come into it for northern Ireland when Boris plonked a border down the Irish sea, or Scotland who overwhelmingly voted remain buT are now out of the EU anyway. I guess you might be right though; I suppose no one in Westminster is lining their pockets and spaffing billions to their mates...

@Ilovegreentomatoes

Oh dear op how will you cope? You sound like a spoilt entitled brat. And the word despise coming from a remainer about randoms they don't even know doesn't surprise me some of the vile abuse they aimed at leave voters were disgusting and proved how discriminatory they were against a group that dared to have a different view point from them.

So true.

@trama is prepared to brand 52% of the voting population (of all demographics, who she has never met) as racist. And yet doesn't see her own prejudice & utter hypocrisy.

Well my shelves have not been short of anything

And Brexit is not the only reason, as anyone with any common sense is aware

Covid has been a massive issue as well, but guess it’s just easier to jump on the I hate Brexiteers bandwagon that actually understand what’s happened

I despise Brexit, but I don't despise those who voted for Brexit as many of them were manipulated and didn't really know what they were voting for. Saying that to them annoys them very much!

@HambletonSquare

It is awful to think how companies are going to have to pay British lorry drivers a decent wage rather than bringing in cheap East European ones to undercut them. Their poor profit margins

Nope, your profit margins - food prices will rise to cover the cost of more expensive drivers.

Yes, empty shelves here too. Leader of the council talked of so many less hospitality staff ( just when they were needed), lack of care workers and school support staff. The knock on is, yes wages will rise, however for the council, to meet rising wages to attract care and school workers from the business sector, taxes will have to rise.

All out of your pocket too @Notthemessiah

I don't have any profit margins, but if paying British workers costs a bit more and prices rise because of it, then so be it - a price I'm willing to pay.

Also don't forget that the extra money will stay here and be spent in the UK economy rather than being taken back home to Poland, Romania or wherever.

We don't 'need' hospitality staff and maybe they'll have to pay care workers or support staff a decent wage if they want people to do those jobs.

And yes, we will have to pay the actual cost for these things, rather than bringing in cheap, more easily exploitable labour from outside the UK (as long as the government hold's its nerve).

Maybe you don't care though, as long as it's cheap @HambletonSquare?

@Shehasadiamondinthesky

I've never heard anything so disgusting and utterly entitled in my life. I've just been to Lidl and done a big weekly possibly 2 weekly shop for £22. I bought everything I needed all of the basics. So a few shelves were empty but Im not sleeping on the street or starving like so many people in the world.

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Another good article link on the shortage. (Non-British source)

www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/9/3/why-are-there-food-shortages-in-the-uk

@Chloemol

Well my shelves have not been short of anything

And Brexit is not the only reason, as anyone with any common sense is aware

Covid has been a massive issue as well, but guess it’s just easier to jump on the I hate Brexiteers bandwagon that actually understand what’s happened

There is Covid all around the world though so it's not the explanation.

I don't mind being despised by random internet forum users, I think of it as amusement. I'm sorry young Henrietta won't have her Salmon sandwiches and sparkling Evian for a little while longer, I am however pleased to see the changing uplift in wages to the people who are trusted to deliver that salmon and water to the supermarkets; who have been taken for granted for long enough, hopefully it's the start of change for a lot of vocations that have relied on cheap imported labour for too long. Yes I know increased drivers wages (and the rest) has to come from somewhere, but you can't sit there complaining about how you want people (and the lowest) fairly paid while simultaneously wanting to pay bottom of the barrel prices for what you consume, yes I know it could come from the bottom line profits instead of consumers, but even I'm not that much of a lunatic to ever believe that will happen widespread.