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To think the royal family are a bloody embarrassment

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MariaAngustias · 12/09/2021 09:53

Just that - why are we paying for this bunch when we could be spending the money on essential services? Let the Queen continue then after her just get rid of the whole bloody lot of them. We have and alleged paedo, a whinging multi millionaire in his 30's moaning constantly, an allegedly corrupt heir to the throne meeting dodgy russians for money....... just go, enough. Seriously - this is all Jeremy Kyle for poshos.

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DismantledKing · 12/09/2021 13:07

The royal family bring in precovid £19 BILLION a year and they only cost £82.4 million in 2020. £69 million of that was on official duties.

Do you have a source for that?

FuckPilledLatteplus · 12/09/2021 13:08

You’ll always get the morons that think we NEED them because tourists like visiting palaces. Versailles has more visitors per year than Buckingham palace.

FeministTrust · 12/09/2021 13:08

@Jaysmith71 she was legally a child. Everyone has to obey the laws of the country they live in, not the laws of the country they were born in.
I was born in a country where there is no trespass law. That does not mean I can freely trespass in England and expect not to be prosecuted.

She says she was trafficked, that Prince Andrew knew this, and he still had sex with her. Morally and legally that is rape.

There is lots of minimising on this thread. Prince Andrew is accused of raping a child.

IcedPurple · 12/09/2021 13:10

@Jaysmith71

I think "Queen" is an official title that can be part of a style, eg, the present Queen has chosen to style herself Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom, despite some Scottish objections.

Cam may be known as Princess Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall (and Rothesay) or The Princess Consort, but to call herself queen when she aint Queen would be a tad perverse.

She's not 'Princess Camilla' just as Diana was never 'Princess Diana' because only birth princesses can have that style. Technically she is Princess of Wales but chooses not to use that title.

In the sexist royal and aristocratic system, women by default take the female version of their husband's titles. So if Charles is king, then wouldn't his wife automatically be queen, even if she chooses not to use the style?

Livingtothefull · 12/09/2021 13:10

'the unsubstantiated word of some woman'. Nice. Do you refer to all rape complainants in such a dismissive way?

We can't know for sure whether Andrew is guilty of the allegations; but his actions in evading rather than facing them do not make him look good. Why isn't he fighting to clear his name as we would expect if he was innocent?

And the rest of the family in shielding him don't look any better; but then this is a family who had other offenders and paedophiles as close friends (eg Jimmy Savile - I must say Prince Charles has got off very lightly in avoiding scrutiny of his own friendships with JS and others).

I just don't believe they were ignorant of the offences; even Prince George's school friends are vetted before they can play with him.

perfectasalways · 12/09/2021 13:10

Don't personally want to pay for them but it's such a shit show and it's like a soap opera. Anyway, what else would they fill the newspapers up with?

ponyexpress22 · 12/09/2021 13:11

The royal family bring in precovid £19 BILLION a year and they only cost £82.4 million in 2020. £69 million of that was on official duties.
Oh please, that is an unbelievable statement and not true 😂

SquirryTheSquirrel · 12/09/2021 13:12

@Jaysmith71

I think "Queen" is an official title that can be part of a style, eg, the present Queen has chosen to style herself Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom, despite some Scottish objections.

Cam may be known as Princess Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall (and Rothesay) or The Princess Consort, but to call herself queen when she aint Queen would be a tad perverse.

She can't call herself Queen now, obviously, but when Charles becomes King she will be entitled to call herself Queen. Whether she and Charles will choose for her to do that is another matter, but she'll be entitled to adopt the style of Queen - as have most wives of Kings in the past.
IcedPurple · 12/09/2021 13:12

The royal family bring in precovid £19 BILLION a year and they only cost £82.4 million in 2020. £69 million of that was on official duties.

These figures don't include security costs, which run into tens if not hundreds of millions annually, and are 100% funded by the taxpayer.

Abhannmor · 12/09/2021 13:12

@Jaysmith71

it's the best real life soap opera ever.

Keeping Up With The Saxe-Coburg and Gotha Von Battenburgs would be a sure-fire hit on Netflix.

Up Yours, Harry.

Guelph. That is the actual surname of the Hanover dynasty. Sometimes written Guelf or Welf. The other fol de rol is their title rather than name.
Blossomtoes · 12/09/2021 13:12

@FeministTrust, in this country she was over the age of consent. That was, of course, not the case in NY State but she wasn’t a child. She was 17 - she could legally marry here and in some US states.

SquirryTheSquirrel · 12/09/2021 13:14

Cam may be known as Princess Camilla

It would have to be Princess Charles or Princess of Wales because she isn't a Princess in her own right. Diana was never officially 'Princess Diana' - she was '(HRH) Diana, Princess of Wales' and then the same without the HRH once divorced..

Realyorkshiretea · 12/09/2021 13:15

@TatianaBis

I don't actually care whether William and Kate do a great job or not. How hard is it to shake hands with people anyway?
This.

And a hereditary monarchy is ludicrously outdated and unjust however well you can cut a ribbon.

lazylinguist · 12/09/2021 13:15

We don't pay for them, realistically. They bring in more money in tourism etc than they'll ever cost us.

Their having existed brings in tourist money, but I doubt that people would stop coming to look at the historic buildings etc associated with the royal family if we ditched the monarchy. I'm pretty sure Versailles, for example, does alright for visitors! Our history doesn't vanish if we no longer have a king or queen.

FeministTrust · 12/09/2021 13:16

@Blossomtoes Everyone has to follow age of consent laws in the country they are in. In some countries the age of consent is 13 years old. You can't rape a child in Britain though who is 13 and say, its okay the age of consent where I come from is 13, not 16.
Legally she is a child in NY, so the allegation is that he raped a child trafficking victim.
People don't want to acknowledge that because they want to minimise the accusation. This is a very serious accusation.

OhDearMuriel · 12/09/2021 13:17

The only ones in my opinion that are a bloody embarrassment are Meghan, Harry and Andrew.

FeministTrust · 12/09/2021 13:18

Meghan and Harry are not accused of raping a child trafficking victim. Whatever you think of them, their behaviour is not in the same ball park as Prince Andrew.

MissMaple82 · 12/09/2021 13:19

I think you read the media a bit too much. Stop moaning, nobody's family is perfect

Blossomtoes · 12/09/2021 13:20

I know it’s a serious allegation. That doesn’t alter the fact that in this country, where one of the alleged offences took place, she was not legally a child. You can say she was until you run out of breath but it still wouldn’t be true.

Jaysmith71 · 12/09/2021 13:20

@Jaysmith71 she was legally a child. Everyone has to obey the laws of the country they live in, not the laws of the country they were born in.

No.

Everyone has to obey the laws of the country where they are. Roberts-Giuffre alleges she was assaulted in the UK, where the age of consent is 16, in the BVI, where UK Law would also apply, and in New York, where I don't know the law.

SecretSpAD · 12/09/2021 13:21

@Comedycook

The very upper class are similar to the underclass in the sense that they both have nothing to lose and can behave appallingly...morals of alleycats.

The respectable working class and middle classes behave themselves. This is why they're lucky to have found Kate

How rude! My very upper class family do not have the morals of an alley cat at all.

We're more like fat, fluffy cats that like to spend the day lounging on velvet cushions.

However, we earned our money fairly and dont sponge off the taxpayer like the royals. So vive la republique! 🇫🇷

FeministTrust · 12/09/2021 13:22

@Blossomtoes one of the alleged offences happened in NY state where legally she is a child.
Anyway I doubt Prince Andrew will ever be questioned properly about the allegations never mind appear in court. The Queen will continue to shelter him. The Royal Family are above the law.

Jaysmith71 · 12/09/2021 13:22

Cam will likely be officially styled Camilla the Princess Consort. She may also be called lots of things. The French persist to this day in referring to the late Princess of Wales as Lady Deeeee.

chaosrabbitland · 12/09/2021 13:24

[quote FeministTrust]@Jaysmith71 she was legally a child. Everyone has to obey the laws of the country they live in, not the laws of the country they were born in.
I was born in a country where there is no trespass law. That does not mean I can freely trespass in England and expect not to be prosecuted.

She says she was trafficked, that Prince Andrew knew this, and he still had sex with her. Morally and legally that is rape.

There is lots of minimising on this thread. Prince Andrew is accused of raping a child.[/quote]
i cant help wondering how he was supposed to know , prince andrew doesnt strike me as telepathic , so unless she told him or she has proof someone else told him and he still went ahead and had sex with her then how in theory was he supposed to know she was there against her will ? he might have very well surmised that she was a highly paid prostitute like many of the other women present .
this is my issue with this whole thing really , its clear he met her , probably did sleep with her , but its only her word against his that he knew she was trafficked and went ahead anyway , personally i think there should be more proof than just her say so .
it is obviously sleazy his whole involvment ,but she was 17 over the age of consent , and i should think he thought she was consenting . she needs to be coming up with proof that he knew she wasnt

FeministTrust · 12/09/2021 13:25

@Jaysmith71 I have said numerous times, in NY the law is that she is a child. So the allegation is that Prince Andrew legally raped a child trafficking victim.

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