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AIBU moving away from DP’s DD

236 replies

Dinodoodle · 11/09/2021 13:05

DP has been offered a new job which is an excellent opportunity for him, it’s a really good career move as well as paying an enormous amount more. The problem is that it’s based 300 miles away from DP’s DD. She’s 5, her parents split 3.5 years ago and DP and I have been together for 2.5 years. We have no other children and it’s very unlikely that we ever will.

We currently have DSD 1 night in the week and every other weekend, there’s also ad hoc other nights here and there when her mum has plans. DP and I have discussed how things could work if we were to move and so far the plan would be that he would travel back at least every 4 weeks (he’ll try and arrange it for every 3 though) and have her at his parents thur-mon. They both have bedrooms at theirs and DSD is very used to spending time there. Then she would come to us for the school holidays.

There is no doubt that taking the job will give DP the chance to provide more for his DD. He pays his ex well already (which he absolutely should) but this does mean that we are struggling to move forward with our lives. We private rent and are stuck in a tiny 1 bed flat, I sleep on the sofa when DSD stays and she sleeps in bed with DP. That obviously can’t go on for much longer. Moving will give us all more space, a proper garden, more money for activities, more money we can save for her, in future we’ll be able to buy a house that will eventually go to her and we can give her mum more for her day to day care.

If it comes to it I’m excited to go, I’ve always been a bit nomadic and enjoy adventure.

DP’s ex is going to go spare if/when he brings it up and I understand she has a right to be consulted and pissed off but are we being ridiculous to consider it? She has twice moved over an hour away for new relationships (that ended a short while after) and DP has just had to accept it and put in the extra effort to collect/drop off DD for access. It’s always him putting in the effort because ex doesn’t drive. She is an oddly controlling woman and kicks up a fuss over things that don’t even matter, so heaven knows how she’ll react to this. Example: she’s pregnant and we asked her the due date because we wanted to book a holiday and obviously don’t want to book in the weeks surrounding the birth as we expect to be needed to have DSD while she recovers/bonds in peace etc. Would she tell us? No. Cue incoming barrage about how it’s not our business and she doesn’t need our help etc etc. We’ve guessed and booked anyway but that’ll rear it’s head again.

Nothing is set, he is also in talks for a job much closer but we are genuinely torn. I’d hate to think we’re putting money over time with DSD but this is the real world and if you want things you have to go and get them.

OP posts:
ejhhhhh · 11/09/2021 14:22

I agree with all the people who says he’s a bad father for even considering this. Only a selfish arsehole would go as far as to actually apply for a job 300 miles away from a 5 year old.

Getawaywithit · 11/09/2021 14:22

Then she would come to us for the school holidays

Does mum get a say in this? Because at the moment you’re saying mum can do all the work and we’ll have all the fun times. What about mum getting some fun times too?

Confrontayshunme · 11/09/2021 14:22

I once heard someone on here say "Your child will probably never see the bank statements showing whether you provided for them or not, but they will definitely remember whether they saw your face or not." I think that fits well here.

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 11/09/2021 14:23

@ElspethFlashman

The fact that he is considering this shows that his daughter is merely an option to him.

She is someone he clearly doesn't feel the need to see every week going forward.

What a great Dad. Hmm

Agreed! Makes my stomach turn
ejhhhhh · 11/09/2021 14:24

And I speak as someone with experience of this. It’s what my father did, and I pretty much have no relationship with him. He’s not a particularly nice man, and moving away from his kids was just one example of his regularly selfish attitude and behaviour.

lyntheyresexpeople · 11/09/2021 14:24

A decent father wouldn't move 300 miles away from his child.
Have you honestly convinced yourself 3 days a month is good enough? How long would that last? A few months, then something more important would come up and he doesn't see her for a year.
Neither of you have any regard for his child, she deserves better and it's absolutely appalling you're even considering it.

HalzTangz · 11/09/2021 14:25

@WhatsTheBFD

300 miles is a lot more than 1 hour away.
She didn't say 300 miles was one hour, she just pointed out ex moves where she pleases when she pleases
Rach888 · 11/09/2021 14:25

@DifficultPifcultLemonDifficult actually, this might not be the case at all. My own mum remarried and I was part of a loving family with my wonderful step dad and half brothers. And bonus - I had two Dads, both of whom I love loads.

It’s not all doom and gloom and you can’t assume it will be whilst knowing absolutely nothing about OP’s life or OP’s step daughter’s life.

I am speaking from experience and can honestly say I personally felt or feel no ill effects from my Dad being so far away. My Mum and Dad also have a great, amicable relationship.

Anyway, I’ll let everyone get back to telling the OP what a horrible person she and her partner must be despite the fact they’ve never met them haha!

HeckyPeck · 11/09/2021 14:25

If he doesn't get offered the nearer job, could he not see his DD EOW still at his parents house? Then stay for half the holidays?

There wouldn't be much difference then in terms of seeing him and he could do video calls etc in between.

It sounds like the new job would allow him to potentially save up for uni/deposit costs as well, so better for her in the long run too.

Dinodoodle · 11/09/2021 14:26

@SteakandOnionPie

A job with more money vs seeing your child who isn't very old... is there really a discussion here? He's a rubbish father if he moves 300 miles away from his child visiting once a month, he may as well not bother. A shitty time to even be considering it when a new sibling is on the horizon, she's going to feel like no one wants her.

I can see from your point of view why you'd like it, more money, bigger house and daughter out the picture, win win.

“Daughter out of the picture”

Total bollocks

I try incredibly hard with his daughter, I’ve been in her life for half of it and I love her. I spend my money and time on her, we play, I cuddle her when she cries and I enforce boundaries when she’s playing up. I have gone out of my way to make her feel welcome and happy in our house because it is her home too.
We have a really good relationship that I have to carefully navigate by knowing I’m not her mum but that I also need to help care for and protect her. It’s hard.

I am open to opinions but I won’t be treated like a wicked stepmother.

OP posts:
AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 11/09/2021 14:28

@Rach888

Do you have children? Could you leave your five year old and live 300 miles away?

Planty13 · 11/09/2021 14:29

That’s extremely far to move away from your five year old child. Far too far.

Clymene · 11/09/2021 14:31

I’d hate to think we’re putting money over time with DSD

That's exactly what you're doing.

DifficultPifcultLemonDifficult · 11/09/2021 14:31

[quote Rach888]@DifficultPifcultLemonDifficult actually, this might not be the case at all. My own mum remarried and I was part of a loving family with my wonderful step dad and half brothers. And bonus - I had two Dads, both of whom I love loads.

It’s not all doom and gloom and you can’t assume it will be whilst knowing absolutely nothing about OP’s life or OP’s step daughter’s life.

I am speaking from experience and can honestly say I personally felt or feel no ill effects from my Dad being so far away. My Mum and Dad also have a great, amicable relationship.

Anyway, I’ll let everyone get back to telling the OP what a horrible person she and her partner must be despite the fact they’ve never met them haha![/quote]
You felt no ill effects because your Mum made all the sacrifices for your sake and obviously didn't complain to you about it.

Absolute misogyny

So bloody true.

CloseYourEyesAndSee · 11/09/2021 14:32

Only an utterly shit dad would do this
I can't believe he's even considering it. I can't believe he applied!

bobblebeebob · 11/09/2021 14:33

I know somebody who did this. Ok not 300 miles, but a good 3 hour drive away. It worked but this person spent a significant amount of time on the road and away from home too. Your partner will have to book hotels to see daughter for weekends in her own town sometimes so that she is not in the car for hours every Friday and Sunday . My friends child is now an adult with no resentment at all because her father went Above and beyond to be there and make it work. If you don't go on to have kids of your own, it'll be easier to manage. You have to accept that you will spend a lot of time apart or travelling together

FiddlefigOnTheRoof · 11/09/2021 14:34

My dh spent every summer abroad with his father, barely saw him in term time. He is very close to him. It can be done.

Rach888 · 11/09/2021 14:34

@AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken yes I do and I don’t think I could leave her. But I am not the OP. I am still with my child’s father. I don’t need to take a higher paying job. Our circumstances are completely different. What an irrelevant question haha. Why have you taken such a dislike to anybody else’s opinion on this matter?

Newkitchen123 · 11/09/2021 14:34

@rach888 I've no idea whether they still do this but it would be mum having to take her to the airport every other weekend or whatever. Not sure about you but I certainly don't have time for an airport run on a Friday and a Sunday every other weekend. That's assuming there are convenient flight times. And then there's all the faff of the pandemic

WallaceinAnderland · 11/09/2021 14:34

Why is he even applying for jobs 300 miles from his daughter. He can't move that far away, it's really not doable OP.

MayorGoodwaysChicken · 11/09/2021 14:35

Yeah…that’s a shit thing to do. You can justify it to yourself all you like but it’s a shit thing for a parent to even consider. Tell yourself it’s all about providing more for her if thats what helps you, but it’s utter bollocks. No decent parent would consider what he’s proposing. If the ex is difficult about contact, why hasn’t he fought for 50/50 in court?

Pebbledashery · 11/09/2021 14:36

I think yabu, I get he wants to provide etc, but these are the golden years which he'll never get back and the fact he's prioritising that over his daughter really is quite sad. I moved over 100 miles away from my ex and its 2 hours in a car, I expect 300 miles will be close to 5 hours each way. It'll also impact your relationship too that he'll continually be absent.

JudgeJ · 11/09/2021 14:37

@Stompythedinosaur

Abandoning your dc is a shitty thing to do. He is prioritising his wellbeing over hers.
The mother sounds to be using the child as a weapon against her father, what's the betting if the holiday happens to coincide with her baby's birth and her ex isn't around to have his daughter she will be bad-mouthing him.
Suzi888 · 11/09/2021 14:37

I think you should go.
You’ve said the mother has moved in the past, what if she does this again. Your DP isn’t moving for a new relationship, it’s a new job, more money. She can’t sleep in his bed forever in any case, can she?
Is there any possibility DSD could live with you?

Rach888 · 11/09/2021 14:37

@DifficultPifcultLemonDifficult My Mum told him to go if he wanted to. She loved being a mother. She remarried and had more children. She had support for my step dad and all of our family. She had a well paid job and independence. Why must every Mother be a feeble, weak, ‘oh poor woman being left’ character?

You are assuming an awful lot in your posts but know nothing of what you speak about haha.