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AIBU moving away from DP’s DD

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Dinodoodle · 11/09/2021 13:05

DP has been offered a new job which is an excellent opportunity for him, it’s a really good career move as well as paying an enormous amount more. The problem is that it’s based 300 miles away from DP’s DD. She’s 5, her parents split 3.5 years ago and DP and I have been together for 2.5 years. We have no other children and it’s very unlikely that we ever will.

We currently have DSD 1 night in the week and every other weekend, there’s also ad hoc other nights here and there when her mum has plans. DP and I have discussed how things could work if we were to move and so far the plan would be that he would travel back at least every 4 weeks (he’ll try and arrange it for every 3 though) and have her at his parents thur-mon. They both have bedrooms at theirs and DSD is very used to spending time there. Then she would come to us for the school holidays.

There is no doubt that taking the job will give DP the chance to provide more for his DD. He pays his ex well already (which he absolutely should) but this does mean that we are struggling to move forward with our lives. We private rent and are stuck in a tiny 1 bed flat, I sleep on the sofa when DSD stays and she sleeps in bed with DP. That obviously can’t go on for much longer. Moving will give us all more space, a proper garden, more money for activities, more money we can save for her, in future we’ll be able to buy a house that will eventually go to her and we can give her mum more for her day to day care.

If it comes to it I’m excited to go, I’ve always been a bit nomadic and enjoy adventure.

DP’s ex is going to go spare if/when he brings it up and I understand she has a right to be consulted and pissed off but are we being ridiculous to consider it? She has twice moved over an hour away for new relationships (that ended a short while after) and DP has just had to accept it and put in the extra effort to collect/drop off DD for access. It’s always him putting in the effort because ex doesn’t drive. She is an oddly controlling woman and kicks up a fuss over things that don’t even matter, so heaven knows how she’ll react to this. Example: she’s pregnant and we asked her the due date because we wanted to book a holiday and obviously don’t want to book in the weeks surrounding the birth as we expect to be needed to have DSD while she recovers/bonds in peace etc. Would she tell us? No. Cue incoming barrage about how it’s not our business and she doesn’t need our help etc etc. We’ve guessed and booked anyway but that’ll rear it’s head again.

Nothing is set, he is also in talks for a job much closer but we are genuinely torn. I’d hate to think we’re putting money over time with DSD but this is the real world and if you want things you have to go and get them.

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CanofCant · 11/09/2021 14:04

Fucking hell, you are both being very unreasonable to even think this. It will no doubt ruin his relationship his daughter. I've seen the same happen with my husband and his father, and with my mother and grandmother, they never really forgave their parents for moving away and effectively abandoning them.

Rach888 · 11/09/2021 14:05

I see absolutely no problem with this. My Dad moved to another park of the UK for work when my parents split up when I was 4. I flew to him/he flew to me every half term and I went over for a few weeks every summer. We spoke on the phone all the time. I have a great relationship with him and don’t feel this was selfish or awful on his part - it’s life! The flying taught me independence, I made friends over there from his neighbourhood, we did lots together when I visited so it felt like a fun holiday.

Please don’t think this will hold their relationship back in any way. It will only hold it back if her mother let’s it.

Gimlisaxe · 11/09/2021 14:05

Shitty thing to do.

In the long run to give an example from my life, We live a 10 minute car ride from DSS (13) and we are lucky if we see him every couple of weeks, he has his own plans, wants to see his friends, DP has to book a time slot, so while at 5 its going to be easy to see her, once she gets older, she is not going to want to spend time with you, especially not during the holidays, depending on what sort of a teenager she becomes, she might just want to sleep or she might be out with friends, she is not going to want to travel 300 miles away and while I am talking maybe 5-8 years time, she will also remember that her dad wasn't there

Mumdiva99 · 11/09/2021 14:06

How will he sort out being at sports day, nativity, parents evening? How will you resolve the fact its a friends birthday parties on 3 different Saturdays in the month. Or that mum has caught a sickness bug and could really do with child being looked after by Dad for a few days etc etc....sorry but this isn't about you two buying a house, it's about parenting a child.

Newkitchen123 · 11/09/2021 14:07

@rach888 you flew by yourself age 4?

SteakandOnionPie · 11/09/2021 14:08

A job with more money vs seeing your child who isn't very old... is there really a discussion here? He's a rubbish father if he moves 300 miles away from his child visiting once a month, he may as well not bother. A shitty time to even be considering it when a new sibling is on the horizon, she's going to feel like no one wants her.

I can see from your point of view why you'd like it, more money, bigger house and daughter out the picture, win win.

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 11/09/2021 14:09

I’d never move 500 miles away from my five year old. I can’t imagine a parent actually choosing to do that. It genuinely blows my mind.

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 11/09/2021 14:11

It will only hold it back if her mother let’s it.

Interesting.

What if the mum decides she wants a new life with her partner, without the child, 300 miles away?

Rach888 · 11/09/2021 14:12

@Newkitchen123 yes I did, as an ‘unaccompanied minor’, I got a sticker and everything ha. I don’t know if they still do this now (this was in the mid-late nineties). An air steward would stay with me for my whole journey and take me to my Dad waiting at the other side. I knew many kids who did similar.

HarrisonStickle · 11/09/2021 14:14

I think this is a bad idea.

You may think travelling to see her every three weeks is doable. However, motorway hold ups, illness, other plans, tiredness, etc will pretty soon mean that that is stretched to once a month.

And that once a month may clash with something else in either her life, her mother's life or your life, so it'll then be once every 5 or 6 weeks.

And then....

That is a long way to travel, it's a five hour journey!

And like many others on the thread have said, his daughter is five, she needs him to be around. By all means move, but an hour away at most so that your partner is on hand for her.

Lizardtongue · 11/09/2021 14:15

Pls dont that poor baby girl needs her father

FuckingFlumps · 11/09/2021 14:15

I don’t know if they still do this now

You have to be at least 5 to fly by yourself in the UK to my knowledge. Although I'd think especially given the past few years very few people would think it a sensible idea for a child as young as 5 to get on a plane by themselves.

CatJumperTwat · 11/09/2021 14:15

That poor little girl. A good father wouldn't even be considering this.

Another woman who needs to raise her standards when it comes to men.

Nataliefrances123 · 11/09/2021 14:16

@Rach888

I see absolutely no problem with this. My Dad moved to another park of the UK for work when my parents split up when I was 4. I flew to him/he flew to me every half term and I went over for a few weeks every summer. We spoke on the phone all the time. I have a great relationship with him and don’t feel this was selfish or awful on his part - it’s life! The flying taught me independence, I made friends over there from his neighbourhood, we did lots together when I visited so it felt like a fun holiday.

Please don’t think this will hold their relationship back in any way. It will only hold it back if her mother let’s it.

Couldn't agree with this more!
DifficultPifcultLemonDifficult · 11/09/2021 14:16

@Rach888

I see absolutely no problem with this. My Dad moved to another park of the UK for work when my parents split up when I was 4. I flew to him/he flew to me every half term and I went over for a few weeks every summer. We spoke on the phone all the time. I have a great relationship with him and don’t feel this was selfish or awful on his part - it’s life! The flying taught me independence, I made friends over there from his neighbourhood, we did lots together when I visited so it felt like a fun holiday.

Please don’t think this will hold their relationship back in any way. It will only hold it back if her mother let’s it.

Yup, the mother, who would have to do every bit of the day to day grind of parenting, cope with illnesses, work, childcare, school runs etc all by herself, and get none of the fun time of holidays would definitely be a bitch for getting in the way of that Hmm
Simonjt · 11/09/2021 14:18

To be honest I would seriously consider my relationship if I had a partner who was willing to move so far away from such a young child.

How will he attend plays, sports days, medical appointments, pick her up from school ill etc it he lives 4-5 hours away?

nanbread · 11/09/2021 14:19

What would you think if the mum decided to move 300 miles away?

If one of my parents decided to move 300 miles away from me when I was 5, I would have thought they didn't give a shit about me.

No amount of money can make up for the potential hit that could have on someone's self esteem.

If you both want more why don't you both look for better jobs closer by.

KidneyBeans · 11/09/2021 14:19

@Chloemol

Take the new job. Why can’t she come to your place eow? Ok long trip for your dp but doable I would say. If he goes to his parents you would never see her
Why can't a 5 year old do a 600 mile round trip eow? You really think that's in the child's best interests?
AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 11/09/2021 14:20

@DifficultPifcultLemonDifficult

It’s crazy how everything is women’s fault. Dad fucks off and sees his daughter when is convenient for him and it’s absolutely fine. He can buy her more stuff after all! If mum dares object to never having any holidays with her daughter she’s a bitch.

Can you imagine if the mum was upping sticks and moving 300 miles away from her five year old child?

Absolute misogyny.

SpaceshiptoMars · 11/09/2021 14:20

Is it a drive or can you fly?
Mum may object to you grabbing all of the main holidays - you get the fun stuff, she gets the daily grind.
You'd need to be pretty fair and generous with maintenance to cover extra childcare, or you'll make an enemy from the off.
Not sure that 'buying the child back' with a house is a guarantee of success - gratitude is a glacially slow growing virtue! As long as you are aware that she might take the goodies and run - and can handle that - you could end up quite heartbroken if that happened.

Biancadelrioisback · 11/09/2021 14:20

Being a parent is so much more than financially taking care of someone.

Peanutsandchilli · 11/09/2021 14:20

Don't. By the time she's old enough to have an opinion, their relationship will have disintegrated. She's not going to want to stay 300 miles away from her friends every school holiday. She's not going to want to stay at her grandparents' house to spend time with her dad, and he's going to start getting sick of driving 600 miles to see her.

She needs stability, which is unachievable from 300 miles away. You need a plan b which needs to include finding suitable accommodation close by to where she lives now.

NewlyGranny · 11/09/2021 14:20

Whatever happens, OP, make sure you are clear of the decision. I'd discuss the pros and cons with DP and tell him it's his call (just on this, not on everything always) because it's his job opportunity and his DC.

You don't need DSD growing up or DPs ex painting you as the driving force here and you clearly aren't.

Ideally he'd find the dream job nearer home and perhaps he won't even be offered this one, but you definitely need the money for a bigger house regardless. 5yo DD sleeping with her DF while you're on the sofa won't fly for much longer!

ElspethFlashman · 11/09/2021 14:21

The fact that he is considering this shows that his daughter is merely an option to him.

She is someone he clearly doesn't feel the need to see every week going forward.

What a great Dad. Hmm

FuckingFlumps · 11/09/2021 14:21

Yup, the mother, who would have to do every bit of the day to day grind of parenting, cope with illnesses, work, childcare, school runs etc all by herself, and get none of the fun time of holidays would definitely be a bitch for getting in the way of that Hmm

Indeed how unreasonable for the parent doing all the daily drudge to stand in the way of disney dad swooping in and taking the child every holiday and monopoliseling all their time off school together. I'd be amazed if this posters mum was truly happy about that set up.