If you start work at 9 am, is it OK to walk through the door at 9 am ?

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Or is that a bit ' late ' ?

9am start means arrive at 8am for me…. This is why there is pay disparity. I learnt it from a successfull woman.

It impacts work / life balance of course, but the financial reward is worth it.

@LifeInAHamsterWheel

Well unless you work immediately inside the door then yes! Surely you need at least a few minutes to remove coat, go to toilet/check hair etc not to mention grab a coffee and engage in the morning chit chat with people before you settle down to work? I know I do. I'd find it too stressful to rush in and sit down to work immediately, I enjoy the 10 minutes or so of "settling in" time

Nope. I (when office-based) would hang up coat and switch on PC. Then I'd wait for it to let me log in. I'd be rather concerned about already needing the toilet when I got to the office, unless I'd had a long commute!

You need to be sat down and ready to work by 9am

@Chloemol

No it’s not big you start work at 9am you are at your desk it whatever 5 minutes before.

How would it work if shops open at 9am and no one is there to serve?

When i worked in retail I'd start, and get paid, before the shop opened, though. Not comparable

This is the kind of thing that really frustrates me. I can see lots of posters saying it's ok because I work 1-2 hours extra, through lunch etc. How have we got to a point where around an extra days work a week is so normalised? It should be possible to work a 40 hour week and complete tasks well. If we want to look at better equality then maybe we need to challenge this ridiculous idea that we must be available to employers 24/7.

Ah for a nanny that’s tricky - she’s paid to be at yours from 9. Maybe she feels that she’s intruding on morning rituals to come earlier?
Just put child in her arms at 9am whether she’s got her coat off or not. She’s really ready to work as soon as she’s through door at 9 - I think that’s ok. She can have a coffee or whatever throughout morning.

You need to be at your desk & ready to be productive by 9. Therefore it most jobs Rocking up at 9 on the dot would be late

As an employer, I write it in to the contract as “ on your first task at 8am”.
This is also explained verbally to employees, that it does not mean walking in the door at 8am.
It was something I learned, I had to do.Prior to this, I had some people turning up at starting time with a cup of coffee in their hand, slowly taking their coat off and having a chat with someone in the corridor.
It was also something that gradually got worse over time.
The surprising thing was, it was mainly an issue with staff living on site.
I worked in Operating Theatres so, nobody turned up at the last possible moment, that would be incredibly unprofessional.

What if it takes 15 - 20 minutes to set everything up? Isn't that also work? Printing and photocopying client lists. Disinfecting and cleaning the table/ chair/ keyboard etc (requirement) then turning the computer on and logging into all the systems. Surely If you have to arrive at 8.30 am to prep then work starts at 8.30 and you should be paid accordingly.

That's late. Opening the door at place of work is not working. You are paid for working not turning up at the front door!

I had some people turning up at starting time with a cup of coffee in their hand, slowly taking their coat off and having a chat with someone in the corridor.

The horror! How does any business survive with wasters like that.

Previously for me, it's best to arrive eg 8:40am to get ready for the day

I would say arriving at 9 am is fine. I rarely arrived at work on time - often 5 or 10 minutes late. However, it was never an issue because I worked hard and often stayed late.

If you are in a job where you are having to take over from someone else, then punctuality would be an issue.

Well technically as long as we clock in by start time we are considered to be on time. However in reality we really need to be in at least 5 minutes earlier so we can start at the proper time.

So funny, as I nanny (who used to work in school settings) I read this thinking that a nanny is really one of the jobs where you can actually do this.

Why do you think she isn't 'ready' when she comes in? Is she making a drink? So what, if you're able to leave the (hypothetical) baby and get on with your day? Surely she makes a drink and eats throughout the day while your children are present, do you think that that's 'on company time'?

Unless she has to leave immediately on the school run and making a drink means that the children are late then I don't see what the issue is. I've heard the opposite comments from people complaining that their nanny is early, it's their home and it's an invasion of privacy, you can't win.

I'm glad I'm retired if that is the way it is these days - how cheerless and nit picking.

I am very interested in these 15-20 minutes sorting out that everyone is claiming they have to do (or the 9am starters do)

As for my wee, I do every other one on work time, so my first one can be too.

Nobody bats an eyelid if you're half an hour late. I'm so glad there's no strict timekeeping at my job.

@Hawkins001

Previously for me, it's best to arrive eg 8:40am to get ready for the day

So you're happy to give your employer 1h40m of your time each week for free? Why?

I would say late, I like to get to work at least 5 minutes before work.
I worked in an office and all the tabs on your computer, had to be logged into before 9 am. As that's when it when yoy had to start taking calls.
For my job in care, we had handover at 8am, they expected everyone there for 7:55. So the could start bang on 8 am. I had a mum who was always late getting us to school. I hated getting comments off the headmaster, as we ran into school. So I try not to be late.

I’ve never considered this! If you are paid your 40hours a week 9-5. I’d say, the computer logging/warming up is part of that time....it’s hardly my own time is it?! However if you come in at 9 and make tea/toast...maybe taking the P.
Good debate this!!

You answered it in your original question.

If you start work at 9...

Well, that's when you should be starting, not arriving. Presumably to counter this then, she will be not even thinking about winding down/getting ready to finish until the final minute of her end time has passed?

Just curious, what are the jobs where they are monitoring the time you turn on your computer? I've never heard of that and sounds draconian.

@Bard6817

9am start means arrive at 8am for me…. This is why there is pay disparity. I learnt it from a successfull woman.

It impacts work / life balance of course, but the financial reward is worth it.

How are you rewarded for starting at 8 am? Honest question. I don't get it.