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Original poster

Positive covid and dinner booked?!

118 replies

Windingroad21 · 04/09/2021 11:21

AIBU? Parents a nightmare, but that’s another thread.

‘D’ M and Dbro (same household) all tested positive on Sunday, attributable to Bbro going clubbing. ‘D’F negative.

DF birthday next week and he’s texted myself and DP inviting us to dinner out! Wtf? I said straight out no way as they’re a nightmare, and covid.

They’re adamant they’re going as DM/Dbro will have had ‘10 days’ by then since testing positive.. can this be right? How? Surely you must be sure you’re completely well and take a further PCR to confirm to be safe, and ensure safety of others.

AIBU to be horrified or am I misinformed on what the rules are here?

OP posts:
RedHelenB · 04/09/2021 11:23

They're right as per the guidelines.

SisterAgatha · 04/09/2021 11:23

I think this is right, we had a guy at work who was told he was ok to come back after 10 days but he wanted a negative PCR to reassure him and work. They wouldn’t give him one as by then he no longer had symptoms.

It seems wrong logically but I think it’s right in the eyes of the current rules. Crazy.

UnsuitableHat · 04/09/2021 11:23

Doesn’t sound like you want to go anyway, so good that you’ve said no.

ReviewingTheSituation · 04/09/2021 11:24

10 days after a positive PCR, they are perfectly able to go out for dinner if they feel well enough to. That's when the isolation ends. No point doing another PCR as it can show positive for up to 90 days apparently.

Sparklfairy · 04/09/2021 11:24

"How long you need to self-isolate
If you test positive, your self-isolation period includes the day your symptoms started (or the day you had the test, if you do not have symptoms) and the next 10 full days.

If you get symptoms while you're self-isolating, the 10 days restarts from the day after your symptoms started.

When to stop self-isolating
You can stop self-isolating after the 10 days if either:

you do not have any symptoms
you just have a cough or changes to your sense of smell or taste – these can last for weeks after the infection has gone
When to keep self-isolating
Keep self-isolating if you have any of these symptoms after the 10 days:

a high temperature or feeling hot and shivery
a runny nose or sneezing
feeling or being sick
diarrhoea
Only stop self-isolating when these symptoms have gone.

If you have diarrhoea or you're being sick, stay at home until 48 hours after they've stopped."

Will they actually self isolate though? It sounds like they wouldn't have a problem 'bending' the rules...

TreaslakeandBack · 04/09/2021 11:25

As it stands if you are positive you must self isolate for 10 days then carry on as normal unless you still have a temperature.
If a contact you have to isolate unless double jabbed or under 18. Double jabbed/ under 18 are advised to get a pcr.
A second test to check you’re negative has never been the advice- you can test positive for up to 3 months with old virus.

Original poster
Windingroad21 · 04/09/2021 11:26

I think they’re breaking the rules. DM was taking the dog out for a bit yesterday apparently. They live in a bloody flat with a communal hallway/ stairwell/ front door.

I’m embarrassed by their lack of care for others.

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Theballoonsinthesky · 04/09/2021 11:27

You don't have to isolate if you've been double jabbed since 16th August. If your dad is well and has been double jabbed he doesn't have to isolate. And 10 days isolation for the positive person is all that's needed. No further PCR is required to make sure they're now fine? That's never been the case

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Windingroad21 · 04/09/2021 11:29

Maybe I’ve misunderstood. I get DF can come and go as he pleases as negative/ double jabbed, but it’s the idea DM can go out again so easy after 10 days.. doesn’t seem to be any cognisance of waiting until that period to see if symptomless/ recovered?

Also, still entering communal areas whilst infectious!

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thedevilinablackdress · 04/09/2021 11:29

They may well be breaking the isolation rules at the moment, but that's a separate issue from the dinner once the 10 days are past.

AllThatFancyPaintsAsFair · 04/09/2021 11:31

They may be selfish covid people but they aren't wrong about the 10 days

No one takes a test to get it of isolation, that doesn't work. The guidance has always been no tests within 90 days so you don't get false positives.

FfrothiCoffi · 04/09/2021 11:32

Isolation is 10 days. If you still have a high temperature after 10 days you are advised to continue isolating.
Of course they can go out after the 10 day isolation period… that is the whole point of the 10 day isolation period. Even if they still have mild symptoms like a cough, there is very very little chance of them still being infectious after 10 days. And the problem with asking people to take a PCR test to ‘release’ them is that they can continue testing positive for 90 days after infection.
But don’t go if you don’t want to 🤷🏻‍♀️.

Cuddlyrottweiler · 04/09/2021 11:32

10 days has been the rule for ever hasn't it?
You're being a bit over the top I think and it think it's fuelled by you just not wanting to go.

rainbowunicorn · 04/09/2021 11:32

You are making up your own rules here OP. It has never been the case that you have to get a negative PCR after the 10 days are up

DappledOliveGroves · 04/09/2021 11:32

You self isolate for 10 days from onset of symptoms and then you're good to go. I still have a slight cough three weeks after Covid -
I'm going out and about. Some people - particularly those with long Covid - may have symptoms for months after. They're still fine to be out.

FfrothiCoffi · 04/09/2021 11:33

And yes, after I had Covid I had a cough for 12 weeks. Should I have isolated for 12 weeks?

GintyMcGinty · 04/09/2021 11:33

10 days after testing is fine. That is what the guidelines say.

Crunchymum · 04/09/2021 11:33

I'm sure I've read of people testing positive for up to 90 days afterwards, which is why the recommendation is 10 days (if feeling well and temperature has gone)

HonoreDeBallsache · 04/09/2021 11:33

I'd stop thinking about Covid (not least because they're right about the ten day thing) and start to tackle the real problems that you have with them. Covid is a red herring here.

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Windingroad21 · 04/09/2021 11:33

I’m clearly not keen on going. But I also don’t want to expose myself to Covid. Perhaps I’ve misunderstood some of the rules, I’m just so scared of getting it from the news and project bloody fear. Coupled with what I feel is their complacency, I just don’t trust them.

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LookAtMoiPloise · 04/09/2021 11:34

@rainbowunicorn

You are making up your own rules here OP. It has never been the case that you have to get a negative PCR after the 10 days are up
Yep.
MarcelineMissouri · 04/09/2021 11:34

You are indeed misinformed as to what the rules are.

Original poster
Windingroad21 · 04/09/2021 11:35

Ok. I accept that I’ve not understood what the rules are as such, never been in this position.

I’m just surprised.

OP posts:
MattHancocksSexTape · 04/09/2021 11:35

How do you know it was the clubbing that caused this? Surely if you are worried about communal areas of the flat, this is equally a potential cause of infection?

FfrothiCoffi · 04/09/2021 11:36

@Windingroad21

I’m clearly not keen on going. But I also don’t want to expose myself to Covid. Perhaps I’ve misunderstood some of the rules, I’m just so scared of getting it from the news and project bloody fear. Coupled with what I feel is their complacency, I just don’t trust them.
You have misunderstood the rules, as has been pointed out on this thread many times. The point of the 10 day isolation period is that you can go out after 10 days. That’s exactly why it has been set.