No snorers allowed camping

[Franklyfrost]

Just that.

Having finally managed to get to sleep on our mysteriously but persistently deflating air mattress someone in the field next door wakes me up making a noise like a food processor being turned on and off. I have young kids in the tent with me and older kids in the tent text door so I can’t wear eye plugs. It’s a family campsite so it’s not just me who won’t be able to wear ear plugs. Just don’t go camping near others if you snore. They must know they snore because they’re not pitched up alone, so their party must all have come prepared with earplugs.

YABU camping is for everyone, you can’t discriminate
YANBU camping is not for someone who makes a really loud noise all night long to show off how well they’re sleeping while stopping anyone else from getting what rest they can

I agree OP, it is kind of selfish to go camping if you know your snoring will be a nuisance for other people. It doesn’t mean you can’t camp at all, but maybe choose a site where you are not close to other tents.
FWIW I think the same about parents who know their DC are early risers and incapable of keeping quiet (reading a book for ex)

The 40% 20% doesn't actually tell us that twice as many men as women snore. It might tell us that twice as many men as women report snoring, or seek help for snoring, but that is not the same thing.

Yes, there’s more to it than one small snippet of stats. For instance, the rest of the article goes on to explain why men’s anatomy and hormones make them more predisposed to snoring.

@JurassicPark101

I climbed Kilimanjaro about a decade ago with a group of about a dozen of us. By day 3 one of the tents had to be pitched about 200 metres away as one of the group sounded like a Harley Davidson. It meant another one of the tents had to have 3 people squeezed into it and it was just absolutely grim. Snoring man thought it was absolutely hilarious and said it happened wherever he went. It was so inconsiderate, he knew he snored and admitted a nose clip pretty much stopped it but it was a bit uncomfortable so he didn’t use it. We were all so knackered after a week of this that there was one guy on the trip who got pretty close to hitting him.

As long as snorers are doing everything they can to stop snoring then I think that’s the best you can hope for.

This sounds awful!

I think you shouldn’t go camping in the vicinity of strangers if peripheral noise/other people’s noise bothers you lol. I do sympathise because it would drive me mental too, but that’s why I avoid communal sleeping situations.

Also, a lot of people assume they don’t snore just because it’s not sleep apnea or a habitual problem. But most people do snore sometimes with a cold or blocked nose, which is especially likely when camping.

If you can’t bear it, you have a reasonable duty to acknowledge your shortcomings and not go to a busy campsite. It is not up to others to manage your expectations. My dh snores and I would not share a tent with him for this reason. You can’t pass the buck.

Interesting stuff about the gender disparity here for snorers.

"When it comes to snoring, men are often blamed for keeping the household wide awake. But research shows that women snore just as frequently – and despite snoring at a similar volume to men, they don’t own up to it.

A study published in the Journal of Clinical Sleep Medicine detailed nearly 2000 patients who had been referred to a sleep disorder centre for evaluation. Researchers found that 88% of the women snored, but only 72% reported it. This was a stark contrast to the men; of the 93% who were snorers, all of them self-reported it.

The study also found that women snored just as loudly as their male counterparts. The average snoring intensity for the men was 51.7 decibels; women were close to matching it with an average of 50 decibels."

Source: snoreeze.com/news/women-snore-just-as-much-as-men-but-are-less-likely-to-admit-it/

@Silvergreen

I'd like to ban children from camping. The little cunts always wake everyone else up too early.

Of course you can wear earplugs, stop being a martyr.

I camped for 30-odd years, until arthritis made it impossible. I've never been kept awake by a snorer, but I have been kept awake by children playing electronic games early in the morning and by babies crying.

On a trip to the Gower, someone had a baby that cried practically all night long, every goddamn night. We were going to move to a different site after the 3rd or 4th night, but they started packing up to leave.

The mother told me that another camper had complained and they had been asked to leave. I gave silent thanks to that camper.

This thread is just making me more grateful that DH does not snore, at all.

YABVU to go camping at a campsite in August and not expect noise from other campers. Especially so to not wear ear plugs!! How does having small children prevent you from wearing ear plugs? And if they do then maybe you should wait until the kids are old enough?

Personally I hate the people who stay up late talking/playing music and the kids who wake up early and run around shouting. This is why I mostly only go wild camping, so I’m not near other people.

Also, my best friend snores. She’s slim and has no health issues. It’s really not always a sign of obesity or serious illness! And everyone snores when drunk / ill.

I snore, I weigh 7 stone 10lbs, have no tonsils and no medical issues. I also camp. I get noise is annoying which is why we always take earplugs. I can cope with babies, dogs and even snoring - I reserve my real hatred for the one with a guitar who think we all want to hear him (or her)

YABVU to go camping at a campsite in August and not expect noise from other campers.

I don't think people are expecting absolute silence at night time when camping. Yeah you might get briefly woken up by the loud tent zip nextdoor but you know that is probably a one off. I too get irritated by the pissed twats playing music and chatting loudly but even that does not last all night. A loud snorer though will be making constant noise for eight hours straight. As I said before I try and pick sites that don't cater for large party groups, have strict noise policies past 11pm and have plenty of spaces between pitches so to mitigate against noise/anti social behaviour but you can't plan to avoid a very loud snorer who can make any stay virtually unbearable.

@oldwhyno

Other people’s snoring doesn’t prevent people from sleeping.

Are you taking the piss?

yabu :)

@DinosaurDuvet

People snoring don’t bother me or prevent me from sleeping 🤷🏼‍♀️

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@thebookworm1

This thread is just making me more grateful that DH does not snore, at all.

This thread is making me more grateful that I have my own bedroom (and a white noise machine.) Absolute bliss having both.......

There are methods to try to reduce snoring - my DH lies on his side and wears a mouthguard which really helps. If he forgets his mouth guard and flips onto his back & snores, I give him a poke.
I don't know why someone has to snore all night - don't their companions get a bit cheesed off?

@OverByYer

I remember going camping once and there was a baby crying and crying. My son aged about 8 at the time yelled ‘ shut your crying machine up will you’

I swear the whole site went into stunned silence. I had the giggles. You could try that tactic.

I know you think that's absolutely hilarious, but the only thing that most decent people would see is a really rude and obnoxious little boy. There was nothing remotely funny or clever about what your son did.

Though it's hardly surprising that he is like this! Seeing as you just has a fit of the giggles after his rude and nasty retort at someone's baby crying.

@Franklyfrost

If I’m ianbu I’ll leave a note tomorrow- ‘Hi, We’d all be happier if you could give your snorer a poke during the night. Thanks’

😂😂😂😂

Really?!

I get it's frustrating not being able to get to sleep but what can they do? They aren't deliberately trying to disturb you.

I'm the child of a snorer and I'm a shit sleeper Absolutely dread being in the vicinity of my snoring mother overnight, she can wake me up from 3 rooms away. HOW do snorers sleep through their own racket?!

[quote AngryWhompingWillow]@OverByYer

I remember going camping once and there was a baby crying and crying. My son aged about 8 at the time yelled ‘ shut your crying machine up will you’

I swear the whole site went into stunned silence. I had the giggles. You could try that tactic.

I know you think that's absolutely hilarious, but the only thing that most decent people would see is a really rude and obnoxious little boy. There was nothing remotely funny or clever about what your son did.

Though it's hardly surprising that he is like this! Seeing as you just has a fit of the giggles after his rude and nasty retort at someone's baby crying. [/quote]
Agreed. I’d be mortified if any of my children shouted that.

It's annoying but I definitely wouldn't go writing a note. Just try to deal with it the best you can and hopefully they won't be there your whole trip!

It’s different from intermittent noise. I expect to be woken up a few times by dogs or babies and am happy to live with people chatting after my rather early bed time. But making a really loud noise all night long so no one can sleep is different. If I spent all night banging a saucepan then I’d be a twat. If you know you’re going to make that much noise all night long then no you shouldn’t be sleeping near other people without at least walls between you. We all have our limitations and if you snore loudly all night long you shouldn’t camp. It’s not fair but everything is not for everyone.

I’ve not written a note. I planned to have a chat with someone who was at their pitch but hopefully not the snorer (so as not to embarrass them) and as nicely as possible if there was anything they could do. However I chickened out because their tent set up made me think they’d be unfriendly. It was perfectly pitched, two chairs at right angles to the tent, evenly spaced apart, nothing outside the tent bar the chairs and matching windbreak, also at perfect right angles… it was so eerily neat my judgey self freaked out (ridiculous I know but it’s the truth).

We’re happily flying kites on the beach and occasionally chasing them too. Tonight when the snorer starts I’ll try to remember that camping has these good moments too.

It’s not fair but everything is not for everyone.

Sounds like camping isnt for you....

People snore, people make a noise, children cry, life happens

I have insomnia and I am a stupidly light sleeper, I use ear plugs and accept that there are very few places in the world with complete silence

Life is much nicer if you dont go round getting annoyed with people for things outside their control. And as for suggesting people with a medical condition shouldnt be allowed to participate in activities how nasty is that? What next people with asthma not allowed out in case they cough and wheeze and irritate you?

I'm sure your behaviour is always 100% perfect and doesnt impact on others (except for your requests for people to stop breathing/sleeping) but the rest of us who are a little less than perfect cant quite meet your standards. And no I dont snore so I have no skin in the game

@Franklyfrost

It’s different from intermittent noise. I expect to be woken up a few times by dogs or babies and am happy to live with people chatting after my rather early bed time. But making a really loud noise all night long so no one can sleep is different. If I spent all night banging a saucepan then I’d be a twat. If you know you’re going to make that much noise all night long then no you shouldn’t be sleeping near other people without at least walls between you. We all have our limitations and if you snore loudly all night long you shouldn’t camp. It’s not fair but everything is not for everyone.

Deciding to bang pans etc is a deliberate action and yes that would make someone a twat for choosing to do that.

Snoring in your sleep is not a deliberate action.

For all you know maybe they don't regularly snore so how would they know to stay away?

I suspect most people snore at some point in their lives.

If you go camping you have to expect you will hear people snoring. I think you are lucky it's only one!

Wear earphones or earplugs. You can choose to do something by wearing earplugs etc or do nothing. You get to control your actions. You don't get to decide who can use a campsite based on what noise you deem acceptable.