No snorers allowed camping

[Franklyfrost]

Just that.

Having finally managed to get to sleep on our mysteriously but persistently deflating air mattress someone in the field next door wakes me up making a noise like a food processor being turned on and off. I have young kids in the tent with me and older kids in the tent text door so I can’t wear eye plugs. It’s a family campsite so it’s not just me who won’t be able to wear ear plugs. Just don’t go camping near others if you snore. They must know they snore because they’re not pitched up alone, so their party must all have come prepared with earplugs.

YABU camping is for everyone, you can’t discriminate
YANBU camping is not for someone who makes a really loud noise all night long to show off how well they’re sleeping while stopping anyone else from getting what rest they can

@oldwhyno

Yabu. You might have a sleep disorder of your own that is preventing you sleeping, or perhaps it’s the anxiety about the air bed.

Other people’s snoring doesn’t prevent people from sleeping. Kids sleep through snoring just fine. Some folk just wouldn’t be sleeping anyway, and the snoring is just the noise they hear whilst they’re not sleeping, so they fixate on it.

Oh my god. Have you ever slept (or not) near a loud snorer?!? It's a quality of life issue.

People snoring don’t bother me or prevent me from sleeping 🤷🏼‍♀️

Camping is the problem here. No walls, wet grass, slosh to the loo in wellies, need a torch, little privacy, deflating air mattresses.

Sorry all you happy campers but I would prefer to hear mad snoring through paper thin walls indoors in a warm dry structure with own loo.

I think some posters on this thread have never tried to sleep next to a Magimix snorer TBH.

Stop being facetious. Snoring is a serious problem that disturbs the sleep of millions of women. Not only do men snore more, they give less of a shit about addressing it to help their partners sleep. So yes being a lesbian does help. Your risk of Domestic violence and being raped also improve by being a lesbian.Yours, A lesbian

Do you not know women snore? (and also perpetrate DV, and within same sex relationships).

I'm a woman. I snore. I'm not overweight. There's nothing to be done about it.

Oh god, I’m with you OP. Last year we took our DC camping for the first time. I was a bit annoyed that the tents were so close to each other as I was thinking they’d be spaced out more with COVID, but no. That night a woman in the tent next door snored really loudly ALL NIGHT. She was with her family and no one seemed to nudge her so god knows how they managed to sleep as she was loud enough that ear plugs wouldn’t have made a difference. Me and OH got maybe 2 hours sleep in the morning and luckily DC managed to sleep through most of it. The other family looked like seasoned campers so you would have thought they’d pick campsites that were more spread apart. We were wishing we had an air horn or something that night 😂

Your risk of Domestic violence and being raped also improve by being a lesbian.Yours, A lesbian

Several studies have shown that levels of reported domestic violence are higher in lesbian relationships. This may be because women are more likely to report when they are being abused, or because there's actually more violence, or a combination. Here's just one report , (which also highlights that bisexual women are the group at highest risk of rape.) Framing domestic violence as a purely heterosexual issue makes it harder for lesbians to reach out for support if they are being abused.

Yours, a lesbian who actually cares about lesbians' safety

Stop being facetious.

I'm not. You're being utterly ridiculous. 🙄

Snoring is a serious problem that disturbs the sleep of millions of women. Not only do men snore more, they give less of a shit about addressing it to help their partners sleep. So yes being a lesbian does help.

Snoring is a problem that disturbs the sleep of millions of people. The rest is just sexist bollocks and pathetic generalisation. Snoring has fuck all to do with your sex.

Your risk of Domestic violence and being raped also improve by being a lesbian.

How is this at all relevant to the thread?

For @Chikapu @FawnFrenchieMum @x2boys and those of you who are selectively reading/quoting only half of my sentence ( I feel more and more lucky that I’m a lesbian. ) and purposefully ignoring the start of it and also that it was a response to the comment from @Kapalika
’Most of us are women on here who put up with that shit. Me included. Snoring is slow fucking torture.‘

Yes obviously I’m aware that some women also snore. But research shows that that ’Twice as many men snore than women, with roughly 40% of men reporting snoring versus only 20% of women.’ (snorelab.com for anyone interested - it later goes on to give the reasons why men are the more prolific snorers.)

This, coupled with the anecdotal evidence from here on Mumsnet that the majority of the time ‘snoring’ appears in thread titles is because someone’s male partner is keeping them awake by snoring like thunder and yet refusing to do anything about it, means I absolutely stand by my statement.

If you snore badly and you’ve tried to improve it to no avail, fine. If you snore badly, do nothing about it and then inflict it on others... you’re a dick.

Snoring has fuck all to do with your sex.
Research says otherwise @SoupDragon

The article from snorelab is quite interesting if you fancied learning something about it. It explains the differences in male and female anatomy and hormone production that are the causes of males being more predisposed to snoring than females.

Well I’m a dick then. I snore. I’m not overweight and my breathing is fine. It’s a family trait and nothing can be done about it.

My Dh often sleeps downstairs on the sofa.We’re counting down the days until the teens release a spare room.

This, coupled with the anecdotal evidence from here on Mumsnet that the majority of the time ‘snoring’ appears in thread titles is because someone’s male partner is keeping them awake by snoring like thunder and yet refusing to do anything about it, means I absolutely stand by my statement

Call me crazy, but the reason that it's mostly women complaining about men snoring on MN could just be that almost all of the posters on MN are women?

Vile opinions on here
Someone kicked our tent snorer as they walked past in the night, the snorer was my slim 13 dd who has snored since she was a baby, she's nowhere near as loud as some and we were well away from others but on the easiest route to the loos it seems, she was woken and scared. So are you suggesting she never goes camping op or that she has an invasive operation for your convenience?

I'd add crying young children. I'd take snorers over a few children that we've camped by. I don't know how one of them managed it, but he cried when he ate as well. There was a post on here by a Mum who was asking if they should go camping even though their baby was having a bad time teething, was waking frequently through the night and was generally whingey anyway, absolutely not.

I’ve been kept awake many times camping by crying babies and toddlers and late night drinkers.Are they not allowed either?

@alsonotmyname, does she need her tonsils shaved? I had mine out as an adult because my parents didn't insist on it as a child. My seven year old GC will hopefully get hers done by next year. Snoring because of medical reasons really messed your health up.

@alsonotmyname

Vile opinions on here Someone kicked our tent snorer as they walked past in the night, the snorer was my slim 13 dd who has snored since she was a baby, she's nowhere near as loud as some and we were well away from others but on the easiest route to the loos it seems, she was woken and scared. So are you suggesting she never goes camping op or that she has an invasive operation for your convenience?

WTAF?

What an awful experience that must have been for you and her. Some people are absolute dregs.

Tonsil free here. Makes no difference.

Absolutely @BeauxRingarde I agree there’s a huge amount of gender bias on Mumsnet, just by the very nature of it.

But it doesn’t void all those complaints though does it?

I suppose you could go onto a predominately male forum and see what their snoring posts are about. If they exist I wonder if they’d be mostly “my DW is having a go at me for my snoring” or “my DW’s snoring is disturbing my sleep and she refuses to do anything about it”. If the stats are anything to go by it would probably be 40% of the first and less than 20% of the latter, but who knows.

This is with other noises you no they will stop. A loud drunk. They will fall asleep and the warden will likely have words the following day, a baby it gets a bottle/cuddle stops crying. The combine that woke me at 5am I knew that field was now done and so it wouldn’t wake me again.

Zips it’s just a zip to go to the bathroom, children should be spoken to of too loud/too early. Mine are still sleeping at 8/9am.

A magimix snorer. We don’t know when it will end or when it will start. Maybe they will leave tomorrow? Maybe they are here all week? ahh, you can’t go and ask them to please keep their children quiet as that’s not possible with snoring it just impacts everyone around them with no let up.

[quote Ponoka7]@alsonotmyname, does she need her tonsils shaved? I had mine out as an adult because my parents didn't insist on it as a child. My seven year old GC will hopefully get hers done by next year. Snoring because of medical reasons really messed your health up.[/quote]
No she has a bifid uvula (the dangly bit at the back of the throat) it doesn't cause any other problems at all (speech, digestive) so no reason to operate

@MarieIVanArkleStinks yep, she doesn't want to go again (I didn't mention to her it was snoring) she doesn't need to be reminded all the time, life is tough enough for a teen

But it doesn’t void all those complaints though does it?

No, but neither does it give any weight at all to any discussion of sex based differences in snoring.

I suppose you could go onto a predominately male forum and see what their snoring posts are about. If they exist I wonder if they’d be mostly “my DW is having a go at me for my snoring” or “my DW’s snoring is disturbing my sleep and she refuses to do anything about it”. If the stats are anything to go by it would probably be 40% of the first and less than 20% of the latter, but who knows

That wouldn't tell you anything either. For all we know, all of their female partners snore but they don't care enough to mention it.

The 40% 20% doesn't actually tell us that twice as many men as women snore. It might tell us that twice as many men as women report snoring, or seek help for snoring, but that is not the same thing.

Statistics. Not so easy.

@OverByYer

I remember going camping once and there was a baby crying and crying. My son aged about 8 at the time yelled ‘ shut your crying machine up will you’ I swear the whole site went into stunned silence. I had the giggles. You could try that tactic

I’d be so embarrassed to have raised such a rude child.

Unfortunately snorers can’t really help it but I understand your pain. I used to get the rage at snoring dads on my daughters hospital ward. I was almost thankful when my daughter got an infection and was moved to a private room! (Not actually thankful before anyone thinks I’m a monster).

@TheVolturi

Camping is something only an insane person would enjoy in my opinion!

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