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VsgKitt · 19/08/2021 14:10

I was stood in a toilet que recently with some lairy idiots sat besides.
The men were talking loudly and occupying 2 tables which the que was in the middle of.

I'm fat. I know this. I was ironically days away from bariatric surgery.

It was the day, I wasn't dressed up, no make up. Just minding my own business.

One said loudly to the table behind me 'if this is the level of women out here in XYZ we should have just stayed at home'

They laughed and another said 'two fat ladies, 88'

I didn't even look at them. I didn't give them the satisfaction. I just ignored them and same when I came out.

I don't understand it. I really don't. Yes I'm fat. I'm 36. I'm not going to be attractive at all to these 20 odd year olds. I don't aim to be. I'm just minding my own business.

I couldn't ever imagine singling out a stranger with the sole intention of causing them pain emotionally.

I find it so strange.

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SamiReed1 · 19/08/2021 23:13

@AICM No, it really is not! And you know it, so stop pushing the MRA agenda.

thisisthebestest · 19/08/2021 23:14

Definitely a man thing.
I must be reasonably attractive to them because I've had a lifetime of leering and gross comments and groping and insults if I don't respond how they would like.
(I'm pretty bad-ass and I know how to crush them Smile).

Not once had that from a women.

Not sorry to all the men on this thread who can't handle that truth.

SamiReed1 · 19/08/2021 23:14

@Shakespeare79

No one said all men. ‘Men’ clearly means ‘men as a class of people’. Which is accurate here. It is a societal problem that is caused by the class ‘men’.

Why some women are so quick to defend men’s poor feelings in scenarios like this is beyond me. Your dad/brother/nephews don’t care.

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SamiReed1 · 19/08/2021 23:15

@RufustheBadgeringReindeer

‘Not all men’ isn’t a valid response when nobody has said all men
Agreed.
AimingForSerenity · 19/08/2021 23:16

While I don't completely agree with the poster upthread who said this is a new thing and didn't exist in the "olden days" I have to say, as a fellow oldie, that I do think standards of behaviour and respect have fallen over the years. In my youth I faced "witty" comments from men who seemed to think any pretty young woman wanted to hear them but I never faced the groping and overt sexual comments that my daughter and her friends did. Sadly I think it is getting worse rather than better

SamiReed1 · 19/08/2021 23:18

@thisisthebestest

Definitely a man thing. I must be reasonably attractive to them because I've had a lifetime of leering and gross comments and groping and insults if I don't respond how they would like. (I'm pretty bad-ass and I know how to crush them Smile).

Not once had that from a women.

Not sorry to all the men on this thread who can't handle that truth.

Not sorry to all the men on this thread who can't handle that truth.

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Staffy1 · 19/08/2021 23:31

This is something I’ve noticed a lot of men doing many, many times. I’ve only ever seen one woman doing it. It amazes me that even men that look reject potatoes seem to think it’s ok to make derogatory comments on women for all to hear. It’s as if they have been brought up to think women only exist for their amusement and have no self-awareness. I once asked one who called a lovely looking girl a “thing” as she had put on a bit of weight, who the hell he thought he was to make comments about her when there was nothing special about him and surprisingly this usually loud mouthed, obnoxious person kept quiet and looked slightly sheepish. Almost like it had never occurred to him that it wasn’t acceptable behaviour.

MrsTerryPratchett · 20/08/2021 03:00

It amazes me that even men that look reject potatoes seem to think it’s ok to make derogatory comments on women for all to hear.

It's because they fully understand and benefit from women's fear of men. They know a single woman can't turn around to a group of men who say, "fat cow" and say "go fuck yourselves" because they have a high chance of turning nasty. Even the less shit men KNOW that and benefit from it.

Cheeringly, the one time some nasty piece of shit whispered a comment about my 'cunt' as he passed and I had had enough and shouted, "just fuck off" at him, some lovely bloke stopped and asked if I was OK. Out of 30+ years of harassment that was one of the two times a man came to help. Probably hundreds witnessed it from my childhood in school uniform, two came to help.

Lizzy1980 · 20/08/2021 03:57

I had a very unpleasant remark regarding my weight shouted at me by a group of men driving past in a car when I was walking home from work about fifteen years ago. I bet if you asked them about it now they wouldn’t even remember doing it. I however remember it like it was yesterday. I remember the shame and embarrassment I felt, the pitying looks I received from other pedestrians, the heat of my face as I blushed, how I walked home as fast as I possibly could and I can even remember how my hands were shaking as I tried to get the key in my front door. I wonder if they would still have said it if they’d known the effect it would have on me and how hurt and embarrassed I would feel for days after??? Unfortunately I think the answer may be yes, they’d still have said it just to give themselves a laugh.
I’m sorry you had to encounter those tossers OP xxx

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