To be seriously disappointed that the women on Mumsnet are not talking about What is happening to women in Afghanistan, right now?

[Quarks69]

Seriously, look at the unimportant stuff on the chat list today. Am I the only one who is thinking about those poor girls?

My daughter was born just as we entered Afghanistan and removed the Taliban. she is now 20 at uni and loving life (despite COVID).Her peers in Afghanistan as of yesterday were doing the same. Herat Uni has over 50% women studying in it.

As of today they have been told to go home, cover up, hand in their car keys and wait,,....for what? To be forced into marriage and forget their dreams?

I can’t help imagining how my daughter would feel..what could you say as a mother?it is heart breaking.

I don't think you're correct on this one at all

There's a thread that's been going for the last day or so with getting on for several hundred replies

@Quarks69

Ah well if there was a delete button for a thread I would hit it.😳...but I still find it strange that this huge event doesn’t put some of our rather lesser Mumsnet gripes into perspective, and to see pages of the usual ...To maybe be a bit more thankful for living in this country at this time.🤷🏻‍♀️

Lesser Mumsnet gripes? Like what people are/aren't making threads about you mean?

Castigating the OP for not doing "a quick search" is just ridiculous. Come on people, what is the point of your nastiness, exactly?

Yes, we are aware. Yes, we are care. It’s beyond words. Posting on Mumsnet will not help. I don’t know of any way to help. I’m American; I’m distraught in ways I can’t even process myself never mind explain in words.

Hope that helps you understand.

It will be on lots of peoples minds this week. Writing and views about the problems on here, will all be the same views. It's more horrendous to view all the news photo's of the all the horrors of everything happening there.

@HotelRoomforOne

Castigating the OP for not doing "a quick search" is just ridiculous. Come on people, what is the point of your nastiness, exactly?

Looking down the active list then.

Its not nastiness to point out that someone is wrong and in this case, a simple search would have taken her less time than to type the post.

To be seriously disappointed that the women on Mumsnet are not talking about What is happening to women in Afghanistan, right now?

That is the title of the OP, you don't want to do a simple search have a look down the active list would reveal at least 4 threads all about this, but instead she decided to do this thread to do what? Try and shame some of us? Make herself feel better than everyone else?

@HotelRoomforOne

Castigating the OP for not doing "a quick search" is just ridiculous. Come on people, what is the point of your nastiness, exactly?

To be fair the op is really patronising. The op is ‘so disappointed’ nobody had been talking about something that, actually - people HAVE been talking about, she just didn’t notice.

She may have got nicer replies if she’d said something like -

‘Is there a thread already about the situation in Afghanistan as I’m sure many want to talk about this.’ Then plenty would have replied linking her to the other threads. As it is she wants to shame people not only for not talking about it, but for daring to have and talk about everyday problems, as if it’s escaped her notice that you can post on the thread about Afghanistan but still be worried about xyz personal situation.

Not discussing the horrific situation unfolding in Afghanistan is no reflection whatsoever on people here.

Don’t be silly Op.

I think it's the entirely misplaced tone of superiority in the OP that has pissed people off. If you are going to be high handed about something, it's probably worth a ten second check to see that you are correct. Otherwise you just look like a fool.

I am talking about it in real life with my friend who worked in Afghanistan for ten years educating women to become nurses. She is beside herself and I’m putting time and effort into supporting her as she worries for her friends and tries to figure out what she can actually do.

I don’t want to talk about it here too. I’m sorry. This is entertainment. Social media. It’s not going to change anything talking about it here. I’ve seen threads about it but I just don’t have the headspace to open them and deal with it here too.

I hope that’s ok with you.

How does typing about it on a forum help?

It's fucking heartbreaking, the entire situation.

Some people for the sake of self preservation aren't able to constantly and endlessly discuss the world's tragedies. I have read up on it, feel sick about it, and haven't stopped worrying about it. I have discussed it with people IRL.

How does now typing about on Mumsnet help? Am I somehow better than I was before for typing this meaningless comment on a meaningless forum?

YABU.

No YANBU, it really is frustrating sometimes what people are concerned with compared to what’s going on in the world

@allswellnow but there are loads of threads on here about Afghanistan and some specifically ask how to help women and girls?

OP why don’t you physically, actively do something to help the women and children of Afghanistan as opposed to typing about how sad and disappointed you are?

I find that often the people saying ‘we must do something!’ actually don’t do anything. They think yelling on the internet equals job done.

Anyway you should probably aim your disappointment at the Afghan soldiers who despite massively outnumbering the Taliban, just put down their guns and walked off.

By the thrice beshitten shroud of Lazarus, what are you actually like, OP? That has to be one of the most virtue signalling, grandiose, holier-than-thou, and yet ultimately totally deluded posts ever to hit Mumsnet....and there's been some competition over the years. I have seen numerous posts on here today about the tragic situation in Afghanistan, where the sincerity and pain of the writers of those posts when thinking about the Afghani shitshow was palpable. Not only did you miss them, but instead of apologising for the fact, you came back and doubled down, continuing to castigate others for their lack of perspective?!

Quite. Op, out of curiosity as ive no clue how you didnt see one thread on Afghanistan, do / did you have the feminism board hidden?

As OP is so superior to the rest of us I'm expecting to see her start threads about the situation in Yemen, the UK gov cuts to ODA, the earthquake in Haiti and the issues in Myanmar.

Obviously there are other threads, which you’ve now seen.

But your reaction to this crisis is to be disappointed in other women? Dear god, what a world where a person’s response to what is happening in Afghanistan is to immediately find a way to criticise women. Your thread has depressed me still further this morning OP.

I can't stop thinking about it op. It must feel like hell on earth for them 😢

@HotelRoomforOne

Castigating the OP for not doing "a quick search" is just ridiculous. Come on people, what is the point of your nastiness, exactly?

"Am I the only one who is thinking about those poor girls?" Is one of the cuntiest things I've seen here. It's a fake outrage, attention seeking and well...

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@Quarks69

Ah well if there was a delete button for a thread I would hit it.😳...but I still find it strange that this huge event doesn’t put some of our rather lesser Mumsnet gripes into perspective, and to see pages of the usual ...To maybe be a bit more thankful for living in this country at this time.🤷🏻‍♀️

Do you not see the irony in the fact that you are telling women what they should be doing/thinking/feeling?

There is nothing truly caring about using a horrific issue to play top trumps distress.

It's absolutely not OK to use the horror that is facing the women there to twist into a way to validate your own need to be the most worried or caring in the room and use it as a stick to beat others with for not caring enough.

That's the opposite of being genuinely concerned. It's faux distress used as a tool for your own needs. That's manipulation not concern.

It's an awful situation and it's been on my mind, on and off, since the news broke. But posting about how terrible it is on the internet, either here or elsewhere, isn't really going to help anything. Nor is going into some kind of mourning state where I can't do anything mundane or lighthearted - my daily life will roll on in the same way whatever my mental attitude is.

There's very little we can do other than offer emotional support to anyone we know who is directly affected; i.e. who has family/friends who are in Afghanistan or in the process of trying to flee.

YABU - there have been several threads already on this subject.

Even if there hadn't been - I am at a loss to understand how a bunch of posters on MN discussing the subject can actually help

You need to open your eyes op. There has been plenty of talk on here about the situation.
There has been discussions on other social media groups too, some a lot more robust than MN would allow too.
Asking if you're the only one thinking about those poor women is just about the most self serving, hand wringing, virtual signalling twaddle I've read on here in a long time.
People do have their own lives and their own problems to deal with too you know.
If someone's partner has just walked out and left her with three young kids and only a quid in her purse till pay day, she's not exactly going to be concentrating on the predicament of females thousands of miles away is she.
Grow up!