Are some people actually this oblivious?

[TinyTroubleMaker]

OK so I'm on a campsite run by a well known membership body. We've been on site a while and used other sites. People are usually pretty sedate. Here so far, it gets dark around 8-9, people are quiet and respectful of others, everything goes quiet, everyone goes to sleep. Anyone who is up is more or less silent. Might sound boring to some but it works, means everyone gets a good rest and it's pleasant.

Tonight, a group arrived I think then went out. At twenty to eleven, they've returned and 1. Driven their van with headlights shining into tents waking everyone up. I can hear my neighbours awake by this 2. Kept engine running for what seems like quite a while 3. Slammed all the doors on their vehicle repeatedly 4. Got children out and let them yell everything they have to say loudly, without quietening them because others are asleep 5. Parents (or I think 2 women with 4 or so kids) not at all keeping their voices down either in talking to the kids 6. Once inside their tent / caravan continuing to say everything at top of voices which on a campsite carries at night 7. Still outside 30 minutes on, keeping half the campsite awake. Compared to every other camper I've experienced on this trip and other trips this summer, they have really poor manners.

It should be obvious every tent around them is dark, people are sleeping, and this behaviour is therefore going to wake multiple people. Within a certain area, say 15 tents at least with average 3-4 people each. More tents beyond that probably.

So, either they know this and think they are more important than literally everyone around them (and genuinely believe it's necessary to carry on at they are without even attempting to lower voices) or they are so oblivious that they actually can't figure out how anti social they are being.

I am so grateful we've had such fantastic fellow campers for days and days now but so disappointing to have to deal with this near the end of our stay.

Not sure what the AIBU is exactly, other than - can people really be this oblivious to their effect on others?

Oblivious? No. They know full well they aren’t the only ones there. Inconsiderate and selfish? Absolutely.

They probably just didn’t care.

Make sure everyone is extra noisy very early tomorrow morning. If they're staying up late, can't see them being awake by 7a.m. unless you make sure that they are😀

I’ve realised recently that people aren’t necessarily oblivious- they just don’t care that they’re disturbing people because they think that’s fine. Where I live a few neighbours have recently had v loud parties and when they’ve been called out on it on the local FB tonnes of ppl have piled in to say it’s fair enough to have a party, it’s their right, it’s totally fine until whatever time, whatever volume, why are ppl so uptight etc etc. Obviously a slightly different circumstance, but same thoughtless mindset. I honestly thought ppl were oblivious. Maybe after a few drinks didn’t realise the volume. But now I realise they’re just tw*ts!!!!

They are probably drunk, which always makes people loud.

They don’t care.

It's still ongoing after nearly an hour and near midnight. Including yelling / swearing at the children. Glad we've had a number of good nights sleep before this (as noone else behaved this way) and we're not due to stay long anywhere near them. Feel sorry for those who do.

I’ve never been camping, but 8-9 sounds early to expect people to be in bed or keeping very quiet, on their holiday.

Call the campsite number and report them.
By this time of night, it's reasonable to expect them to be quiet.

better than turning headlights off and driving thru the tents?

It's 10.40pm not 2am...

Plus, unfortunately unless there are campsite rules then you don't really get to tell them how to enjoy their holiday. This is the risk you take when you go camping

These do sound inconsiderate. However 8-9 pm does sound very early to expect adults to be silent on holiday. Camping should be about sitting around a fire chatting with friends under the stars really I think. I would say quiet voices after dark and avoid all noise after 11 (as per general neighbourhood noise rules). Also quiet in the mornings too though - works both ways!

Best scenario is for campsite to advertise their quiet times and people can pick late or early bedtimes accordingly. I've known a few festivals have separate areas like this and think it's a great idea.

Uk campsites are generally too crowded which doesn't help.

passthecake there are probably between 50 and 100 tents, caravans etc on site. Around 8-9 they probably get quieter as people put young children to bed. After that people tend to be polite and respectful. Having been to quite a few of the sites in this member network, that's the norm. Not party central, but pleasant.

i dont go camping often but the first time, it was a saturday, and there was a big party of tents, very noisy for hours. i assumed that was the norm and hated it

I had the weekend from hell on my last camping trip for exactly this reason.
No, they don’t care

absolutely sounds like you would like this group. If you are UK based. More outdoorsy day trip types than fans of a festival vibe (not that the two are mutually exclusive but the former seem the majority demographic).

It's always gone!
Nothing new.

There is one on every campsite sadly. I've been known to shout "Will you PLEASE be quiet?!" from my bed, when it goes on too long or too late.

Never forget going to a campsite in the Lakes, the tent next to us was fine in the eve but they and their kids got up at 5. That’s 5am.

Not little kids, not babies who we all know you can’t help getting up and being noisy. No, the whole family was up, kids playing out, kicking balls, making cooked breakfasts outside etc. At 5.30am. It was only just light.

The first day I let it go; the 2nd I confronted them, they were literally either oblivious, or didn’t give a rat’s ass. I suspect both. The site wardens got involved, it carried on. Then we left.

I want to put myself in their brain for a day and see what life is like, not giving a toss for a day how your actions affect anyone else. Scary really.

Have you actually spoken to them?

We had this on our camping trip last month and all it took was a quick word with them to put an end to it.

This is a time that "will you shut the fuck up?!" at the top of your voice from within your tent will have you hailed a hero

Is it that hard to just tell them to shut up?

I wouldn't have given a fig about the initial arrival noise but if it's really been an hour - 'hey! Gonna shut up! Everyone is trying to sleep!'.

(Infact, after 20 minute I'd have shouted it).

It may be way too late for this...I'm five hours behind you...but should it occur again, gather a few of your neighbors and go to the site management en masse and let them know about the issue. ESPECIALLY if it continues tonight.

Ok, approaching midnight with lots of noise is not ok, I agree with you on that.

However, most campsites have quiet time from 11pm.

Being quiet from 8pm would make camping a very long night and I would find this unbearable. What about on a nice summers evening - can people not sit outside and have a drink while their kids play in the play area etc?

If I wanted to be quiet at 8pm I would stay at home.

So mixed feelings here.

If they are still being noisy now I would contact the camp site and get them to sort it out.