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Cruelty to children

502 replies

designSalmon · 05/08/2021 21:18

I’ve just read the absolutely tragic story of Kaylee-Jayde Priest. I’ve just been crying my eyes out this evening over the loss of her very short life. She has hair just like my daughter,

I’d really like some recommendations on charities and organisations that try to make a real difference in cases such as these, so that I may make a donation etc.

Rest in peace little girl, I hope you will find the kindness, love and compassion you so deserve in heaven.

Thank you

OP posts:
Panickingpavlova · 07/08/2021 20:56

Pumpkin also they are just lonely? They want to be hugged, kissed, have someone to meet and somewhere to go?
Normal things...

Anneb62 · 07/08/2021 21:33

They deserve to feel her pain, I would happily be the woman to torture them in a much slower way, there is no deterrent for evil, why spend money prosecuting them when I will do it for free

mumda · 07/08/2021 21:34

I know a policeman who nearly got the sack for removing a child from very very bad situation. The child was put back and he was absolutely bollocked for not going through the correct process.

Anneb62 · 07/08/2021 21:47

As a grandmother, at the first sign or feeling of any kind of neglect, I would have removed my grandchild from her care, the police would have to arrest me and not before I had alerted every newspaper and social media outlet 1st, and what about Social services?, is this another baby P case, cut out the red tape and political correction and just go on your gut instincts, better to be wrong.

bluewanda · 07/08/2021 21:52

As a pp said, it is always a family member who commits the crime. The father/boyfriend/step-father...

@COPPER3 The abuse towards Kaylee began before the boyfriend appeared on the scene. She was found to have 68 injuries, old and recent.

bluewanda · 07/08/2021 21:53

@mumda I hope that poor child made it out of their horrific situation alive.

feb2022 · 07/08/2021 22:03

@designSalmon it's absolutely horrific! This little girl looks very similar to my nearly 3 year old, how anybody could be so cold and brutally cruel to such a beautiful little girl.. it makes me sick to my stomach thinking about what that little doll went through!
😭😭 poor poor baby!

designSalmon · 07/08/2021 22:30

@Doodlebug71 why does it irk you what I said about heaven? I’m not religious normally, but I bloody hope for her sake that there is one, where she finds love and peace. This is not lip service. It doesn’t replace my desire to do something about it, it’s simply an expression of grief.

Why are people being slammed for feeling profound sorrow for this poor little girl?! Once again sorrow and action aren’t mutually exclusive!

OP posts:
Maddison12 · 07/08/2021 22:35

With Kaylee-Jayde though, it seems the 'mother' and boyfriend were actually taking pleasure from hurting her, that's the really sickening thing. Sky news were reporting that poor baby was killed because her cries were disturbing them having sex. Utterly stomach churning.

feb2022 · 07/08/2021 22:39

@Maddison12 yeah I read that today also!
Absolutely totally horrible, makes me so sad to think that anybody (especially her own mother) could be so callous!
And the txt messages they were exchanging "Just smacked her for shitting in her nappy"

Boyfriend (fucking arsehole) "Give her one from me"

"Will do babe xx"

How!... just how could you even comprehend doing this and acting so normal about abusing a little girl

keffie12 · 07/08/2021 23:19

Haven't read the details. Seeing the headlines is enough. I have charities I support. Charities include NSPCC, childlike, Victims Support and Womens Aid/IDAS are thr main ones around abuse

CallMeNutribullet · 07/08/2021 23:32

I read that young women with chaotic lifestyles who have suffered childhood neglect and abuse often crave attention from men. Unfortunately some of those women think turning a blind eye to abuse of their kids is worth it to have the personal validation of a live in partner.

JonSnowIsALoser · 07/08/2021 23:35

Speaking of social workers being too scared to intervene on occasions - this is just in the news www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-58124569

PumpkinKlNG · 08/08/2021 00:04

It’s one of the reasons I’ve been single for so long (5 years) I don’t trust unrelated men around my children, I’ve heard far too horror stories about children being abused and killed by their mothers new partner (not that I would ever allow it and in this case the mum was just as bad, worse even) but there was a story a few years ago of a man who beat his girlfriends son to death as he lost his shoe in a park

Rhannion · 08/08/2021 00:11

[quote bluewanda]You wonder when the abuse began as you don't just have a baby and straight away start hitting it.

@sleepyhoglet I’m not sure that’s true sadly Sad

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-48962296[/quote]
Wish I hadn’t read that, some people are just cruel and vile I hope they are both getting a kicking in jail. It’s just heartbreaking Poor wee soul it’s incomprehensible

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 08/08/2021 00:11

Speaking of social workers being too scared to intervene on occasions - this is just in the news

I cross paths with SW all the time, as well as multiple other services and disciplines, so police, judiciary, healthcare, housing, DWP, you name it. The one role that you could never convince me to do, no matter how much money you offered me, is Social Work.

Run into a burning building? Yep, could probably just about bring myself to do that. Work a Saturday night in A&E?, well I like a challenge, am not easily frightened, and after the training could possibly just about manage it. Even working with severely mentally disturbed individuals does not phase me, but sod Social Work. Every single thing about it that I've ever seen just screams at me to leave well alone.

Maddison12 · 08/08/2021 00:15

@feb2022 Yeah, like it's so commonplace, how could it be such an everyday thing for them when it's repulsive behaviour to anyone else?

It's the sheer bullying of it though, she only did it because that poor child couldn't defend herself, could you imagine her trying that with women in prison.

And him, I wish I'd never read that article because "give her one from me" is literally one of the worst things I've ever read. When police asked him in interview how Kaylees death has affected him he said "it's not my child, it hasn't affected me" I mean fucking hell. Angry

moita · 08/08/2021 00:18

Agree. She's the same age as my DD. I saw the CCTV footage and the coldness her mother shows her was so sad and then what was going on behind closed doors...poor poor children.

RainbowOctopus · 08/08/2021 01:24

Of course YANBU to mourn the sad loss of Kaylee-Jayde Priest. And YANBU to want to take action and prevent other needless deaths of little angels.
The action that can and must be taken is to vote wisely. Choose a government that reflects your view and sets out to protect the most vulnerable in society.
What use are lower taxes if our hearts are breaking because police and ss are too underfunded to launch sufficient investigations into potential loss of life or serious harm?
Despite a few fx@£?!rs we are a nation of loving and giving people. We fight for and champion the underdog, the weak and the helpless. We are kind and charitable. Let us pay what is needed for us and our fellow human to live happily and securely.
I’m sad that you are sad, I am sad that we mourn for Kaylee-Jayde Priest, baby Peter, Victoria Climbe, the wee welsh boy. But most of all I am angry, angry that the government of the 6th richest nation of the world has left OP in the uncomfortable position of trying to find where best to donate to, to save a child’s life.
Please, I beg you, vote wisely people.
Much love ❤️
I hope you find some peace OP and all those who have posted with concerns. Don’t give up, make your voices heard, particularly for those who are too small or vulnerable to have their own heard

RainbowOctopus · 08/08/2021 01:26

I hear you, but thank goodness some do ❤️

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 08/08/2021 01:33

They deserve to feel her pain, I would happily be the woman to torture them in a much slower way, there is no deterrent for evil, why spend money prosecuting them when I will do it for free

You should discuss this at your next therapy appointment.

Anneb62 · 08/08/2021 03:01

XDownwiththissortofthingX
Truth does upset some people, wonder why? What kind of therapy would you suggest?.

Peggyandemma · 08/08/2021 04:34

@gardeninggirl68

You could phone your local safe guarding hub

bluewanda · 08/08/2021 07:17

I read that young women with chaotic lifestyles who have suffered childhood neglect and abuse often crave attention from men. Unfortunately some of those women think turning a blind eye to abuse of their kids is worth it to have the personal validation of a live in partner.

Totally agree with this and it definitely does happen, but in this case Kaylee-Jayde was being physically abused before the boyfriend turned up. It’s not a case of a decent mother who then became infatuated by an evil boyfriend and turned a blind eye. The mother is just as bad.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 08/08/2021 07:22

Truth does upset some people, wonder why? What kind of therapy would you suggest?

Well if you genuinely believe you have the capacity to torture another human being, in person, then I'd seriously wonder if you are perhaps a psychopath.

If you don't, and it's all just bluster and bravado, and the closest you have ever been able to bring yourself to torturing an individual is tickling the soles of your grandchildren's feet, then perhaps you don't need therapy, and you are just in the habit of posting hyperbole on internet forums for effect?