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Coronanamechangie · 2021-07-21T10:20:46+00:00

Hi all. Name changed as don't want real life hatred. We've been isolating for 8 days as DH tested positive. We count the 10 days from when he first showed symptoms. Were sending DC1 and DC2 back to school tomorrow. However just lateral flowed them and DC2 is stongingly positive. We're tempted to send DC1 to school as it's their last couple of days of year 6. Is this horribly irresponsible? Should we sit out another 10 days as a family? Sposed to be going to Devon on Sunday. If we should send DC1 to school what should we tell them? IBU - should do more isolation NBU should carefully proceed with life.

Abraxan · 21/07/2021 18:43

@Nettleskeins

It isn't a positive case. It's a LFT. There is no legal basis and as long as rest of family have isolated and already had Covid v recently then he isnt going to pass it to them.

Only the Dh has had a positive case of Covid, but the whole family.

Dc2 tested positive on LFT. Whilst it needs confirming with PCR it's very likely to be positive.

Op and dc1 could still catch it.

FartAndMoan · 21/07/2021 19:10

@Coronanamechangie

To clarify as well. It's 10 days since first symptom. DH had cold for 2 days before testing positive.

That's not what you said in your OP, you said you started counting from when he developed symptoms and that you're on day 8. Now you're saying different because you're getting a rough ride.

Neither child can go to school because you have another two days to go. You sound like you're back-pedalling because you've realised even without one of your children testing positive, they still couldn't attend.

My sil has been a big covid denier since the start of this, she's tested positive recently and been really poorly with it and she's still adamant it's still a scam but even she didn't choose to cut the ten days short and send her kids in cos they'll miss the fun things. Just as well really because the husband and son tested positive on day ten.

At a time when vulnerable children are at school and other mitigation's have gone it's a really shit thing to do when you know you've got another two days to go.

iolaus · 21/07/2021 19:32

@Candleabra

Can I ask a question about the isolation timings?

We're all isolating due to a positive covid case in the household. Everyone else negative and symptom free so far. If someone else tests positive before the 10 day period ends, why doesn't the clock reset for everyone apart from the original case?

I was thinking that if DC1 is the original positive, then DC2 tests positive on day 8, I could still catch covid from DC2 so would need to do another 10 days.

Or are those diagrams based on the assumption that everyone can fully isolate separately within the household for the original 10 days.

I believe so

I've been told to self isolate at home before an op

Apparently self isolating at home means staying 3 meters (no idea why that was 3m rather than 2) away from everyone in the house - seperate bedroom and seperate bathroom - have explained 5 of us live in a 3 bedroom house with 1 bathroom, that can't happen

I think the people who write these rules don't live in the real world where we don't all have our own wing of the house

pastafeend · 21/07/2021 19:33

That's not what you said in your OP, you said you started counting from when he developed symptoms and that you're on day 8. Now you're saying different because you're getting a rough ride.

I don't think OP has said anything different. It was clumsily worded but it said the same thing. They had to isolate for 8 days because they start on day 2 of the original symptoms.

FartAndMoan · 22/07/2021 01:15

@pastafeend

That's not what you said in your OP, you said you started counting from when he developed symptoms and that you're on day 8. Now you're saying different because you're getting a rough ride.

I don't think OP has said anything different. It was clumsily worded but it said the same thing. They had to isolate for 8 days because they start on day 2 of the original symptoms.

We've been isolating for 8 days as DH tested positive. We count the 10 days from when he first showed symptoms. Were sending DC1 and DC2 back to school tomorrow.

She says there that they've only done eight days and that they count the ten days from when he had symptoms.

Which means they either have two days left to go or they didn't bother isolating for the first two days he was symptomatic. If the ten days are up like she says in a later post, they they can't have isolated for the first two days when he was symptomatic or she'd have said they've isolated ten days.

pastafeend · 22/07/2021 08:12

@FartAndMoan

She says there that they've only done eight days and that they count the ten days from when he had symptoms.

This is correct.

Which means they either have two days left to go or they didn't bother isolating for the first two days he was symptomatic. If the ten days are up like she says in a later post, they they can't have isolated for the first two days when he was symptomatic or she'd have said they've isolated ten days.

It's possible they didn't isolate until the first person tested positive, that doesn't actually change the outcome here though. The isolation period still began when the symptoms did, which means a positive test on day 2 leaves 8 days to isolate for the whole family.

DumplingsAndStew · 22/07/2021 09:31

@pastafeend

As far as I can see, August16th is the earliest date children start returning to schools (in Scotland), and they want all isolations to end then so that they can maximise the in-school infection rate as early as possible - but that is just me being cynical!

We have been following slightly different guidelines in Scotland. Mine go back on the 12th August anyway.

Angus go back on the 11th.

DumplingsAndStew · 22/07/2021 09:35

The only way for us to speculate when the isolation period is up would be for the OP to clarify when symptoms started, when the test was done.

Though the OP won't be back, as I suspect she knows she's fiddling the dates, has sent her child into school today, and is likely packing for her holiday this weekend!

pastafeend · 22/07/2021 09:38

The only way for us to speculate when the isolation period is up would be for the OP to clarify when symptoms started, when the test was done.

The test was positive 2 days after symptoms started, which does mean 8 days isolating.

pastafeend · 22/07/2021 09:39

Sorry, 8 days isolating from the positive test. Obviously they should have all been isolating from the day symptoms appears but it's unclear whether they did or not. It doesn't change the overall period though, they would still only have 8 days to do from a positive test on day 2

DumplingsAndStew · 22/07/2021 09:56

@pastafeend

The only way for us to speculate when the isolation period is up would be for the OP to clarify when symptoms started, when the test was done.

The test was positive 2 days after symptoms started, which does mean 8 days isolating.

But only the OP knows whether they are correctly counting the days.

Upthread there's been some discussion about starting the count they day after symptoms or positive testing, whereas I know many who have been counting the day of the positive test/symptoms as day 1.

BungleandGeorge · 22/07/2021 09:56

@pastafeend

Sorry, 8 days isolating from the positive test. Obviously they should have all been isolating from the day symptoms appears but it's unclear whether they did or not. It doesn't change the overall period though, they would still only have 8 days to do from a positive test on day 2

No they wouldn’t because it’s 10 days from the day after symptoms start

BungleandGeorge · 22/07/2021 09:57

It is very clear on the nhs site that the countdown starts the day after and the 10 days is 10 complete days

Abraxan · 22/07/2021 09:59

The last day of school is probably the worst day to send this child in. It's a day when they mingle more, are in closer contact with increased numbers and therefore the risk of transmitting to others would be higher.

The school will know why dc2 is off school so they aren't going to be impressed if DC1 ended up testing positive in a day or two, sending the whole class and their teacher into isolation for the first third of their school holiday.

It's also a day where your own child could be at greater risk of picking it up or becoming a close contact again, and as his (and Dh/your) isolation period has ended you could all end up in isolation again - for the sake of one day.

We have had parents keep children off school for the last day or so to avoid becoming close contacts. From the OP and similar stories I can totally see why they'd do it and would support them in their decision.

Abraxan · 22/07/2021 10:07

You don't start counting from the day of symptoms. That is called day 0.

You count the tens days from the day after symptoms started it the day after you last had contact with the person.

So yesterday was Wednesday.
For that to be day 10 then symptoms must have started on Sunday 11th.
The pcr result must have come through on Tuesday 13.

cantkeepawayforever · 22/07/2021 11:54

Technically, it is midnight of the day when tested / symptoms start, for 10 days (ending at midnight, 10 days later).

So symptoms Thursday, day 1 ends midnight Friday, and day 10 ends midnight the following Sunday.