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Ditching my mask from today except for in hospital settings

996 replies

Frittataz · 19/07/2021 06:46

Clearly this is fine legally speaking but AIBU to expect not to be asked to wear a mask from today onwards? I’ll wear one when attending hospital/doctors appointments but that’s it that’s were i draw the line. I shouldn’t be expected to explain myself right? I’ve wore a mask from the beginning and stuck to every rule. I won’t be rushing out to go to nightclubs as I didn’t do that before covid and i don’t suddenly feel the need to surround myself (closely) with lots of other people but I am looking forward to taking my daughter shopping and going to the cinema without having to wear a mask.

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JustJustWhy · 19/07/2021 14:14

I have just got off a train and it was full of happy teenagers off to the beach. None of them were wearing masks, I chose to wear mine. I have no issue either way.

travellinglighter · 19/07/2021 14:16

@Frittataz

I wouldn’t be at all unpleasant I’d simply remind them that face masks are no longer legally enforceable. Or would it be better if I lied and told them I’m exempt? As either way from today I won’t be wearing masks except for in clinical settings.
Maybe they should remind you that we’re in the middle of a pandemic, with thousands dead and experts advice has said that it’s a very bad idea to stop wearing masks but if you want to take the advice of a famously incompetent prime minister then I’d happily remind you that it’s a bit selfish to think only of yourself when there are hospitals who have closed operating theatres as they don’t have enough beds for post operative care.
MostlyMaple · 19/07/2021 14:16

Going to a shopping mall tomorrow evening and looking forward to being mask-free.

Also deleted the NHS covid app so can't get pinged 😊 bliss.

However I do respect other people's decision to carry on wearing their masks and wouldn't challenge anyone.

Doodlebug71 · 19/07/2021 14:16

@TheTallOakTrees

Go away, you are boring now.
It's always the ignorant and stupid who say that in response to a factual explanation.

You do you.

"I don't give a fuck about anyone else, so I'm not doing that"

Wear it and leave others who don't because they don't have to alone.

"Don't because they don't have to." You are clearly one of those people who needs laws to keep them in line. Nice.

What YOU say doesn't make any difference. Insulting doesn't work. The selfish word doesn't work.

Enjoy your day

That's your reply to a factual post? You said people should just stay distanced/away from others. That's not possible in many indoor places. Virus particles will be there, whether you're doing you (aka not giving a shit about anyone else) or not. The ignorance and arrogance on display from you and others like you is terrific. It really is astounding.

@MrsDThomas The above goes for you, too. Interesting how the Tory govt claims to want people to demonstrate "personal responsibility" when it comes to wearing masks. So they say it's not mandatory. This is one of the reasons why we have to have laws in the first place. Too many idiots refuse to do what's right unless there's a law telling them they must.

"It's not a law. I don't have to."

*law introduced mandating mask wearing**

"Wah! No Fair! It shouldn't be law!"

It's interesting to see so many people on MN outing themselves as irresponsible and downright stupid.

sillybut · 19/07/2021 14:17

@ShimmyYay

I never wore a mask to begin with always said I was exempt, I carried on going into the office to work throughout the pandemic and continued to see friends. I continued to live my life as normal as possibly despite all this and surprisingly never caught covid.
If you're lying about being exempt (and I assume from the way you've phrased this you are) then as I said earlier, you are exactly the sort of person I reserve a special kind of contempt for.

What right do YOU have to undermine people who genuinely can not wear masks? Because of loathsome underhand individuals like you some really vulnerable people are treated with suspicion that would not otherwise be levelled at them because who knows who is lying like you and who is not like them?

Thoughtless, selfish and frankly nasty.

I hope you're very very proud of yourself

PS I have no axe to grind as I am not exempt.

PPS if you're not lying then this does not apply and I'm sorry for my words but this sort of thing makes me angry.

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IntermittentParps · 19/07/2021 14:18

I'll continue to wear mine as I have been. I might be in a shop/cafe for ten minutes but the staff in there may be stuck there for a long shift and interacting with many people. It's a no-brainer AFAIC.
I will say though that the government's mealy-mouthed 'stance' on this is bound to create tensions and divisions, especially for people like those on here who seem to be taking the opportunity to have a fight about it, and it should have just continued to be a legal requirement.

hamsterchump · 19/07/2021 14:19

I've been out to Lidl and Morrisons today without a mask, felt great. No comments were made but the majority were still wearing them, think I only noticed two other people without. I think in the pubs they'll be less popular.

JassyRadlett · 19/07/2021 14:19

@TooBored1

Each to their own but I'll still be wearing mine. Rates are going through the roof.
Shops can decide who they will refuse admissions/service to as long as it doesn't discriminate against a protected characteristic.

Shops are within their rights to refuse admission or service to those who refuse to wear a mask without reasonable excuse. For some this may mean they tighten rather than loosen the rules as the legal basis has disappeared.

MsSquiz · 19/07/2021 14:20

@Frittataz consider it the same as nightclubs who don't let guests wear white trainers.
Of course it is legal to wear white trainers, but the nightclub has decided they don't want you to wear them in their establishment.
Their business, their rules.
If you want to wear your white trainers on a night out, don't go to their club.

It really is very simple!

JassyRadlett · 19/07/2021 14:21

OMG sorry @TooBored1 I managed to quote the wrong post! I meant to quote the OP.

I too will be wearing a mask wherever asked.

knittingaddict · 19/07/2021 14:21

@FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop

I find it quite amusing that so many people on here are 'meh' about the hundreds of people packing into nightclubs, but throwing names at people going to the supermarket without masks, as they are apparently self appointed spokespeople for shop workers 😂
Perhaps because CEV people and others with vulnerabilities can easily avoid night clubs and the like, but not the shops. I haven't been in a night club for over 30 years. I was in the supermarket yesterday.

I'm pretty concerned about the opening of night clubs as it happens, but that's not the subject of this thread.

Thewholeshackshimmy · 19/07/2021 14:21

I’ve just popped into my local Tesco. I would say that around 80-85% were still wearing masks. I did note that the majority of those not wearing them were people under 30.

Nanny0gg · 19/07/2021 14:21

@TeddingtonTrashbag

Going to an expensive hairdressing appointment later that requires being in the salon 3 hours. If they require a mask I will cancel. Their loss.
Them catching covid means a loss of an awful lot of money for the salon and the staff.

But why would you care?

Drinkingallthewine · 19/07/2021 14:26

@TeddingtonTrashbag

Going to an expensive hairdressing appointment later that requires being in the salon 3 hours. If they require a mask I will cancel. Their loss.
They'll just charge you anyway if you walk out. And be able to accept any walk in client who will mask up. They'll still get paid. And your hair will still look like shit.

So who's loss is it again?

Doodlebug71 · 19/07/2021 14:26

@MostlyMaple

Going to a shopping mall tomorrow evening and looking forward to being mask-free.

Also deleted the NHS covid app so can't get pinged 😊 bliss.

However I do respect other people's decision to carry on wearing their masks and wouldn't challenge anyone.

Translation: "if I turn out to be asymptomatic, none of the people who were in close proximity to me will ever know, and be able to make an informed decision about risking other people's lives."

Pushing 50,000 new cases yesterday, so yes, people are going to continue wearing masks.

Johnson asked people to take personal responsiblity for wearing masks. The consequences of not wearing one are much worse than actually wearing one. Not just for you, but for everyone around you, and everyone you come into contact with.

nokidshere · 19/07/2021 14:27

But they’re not a legal requirement so how can they do that? If I really wanted to I could simply lie and say that I’m exempt but why should I have to do that

It doesn't matter. If the shop says customers have to wear masks then they can stop you entering. That's their choice, just like you have made yours.

DrSbaitso · 19/07/2021 14:27

@FrangipaniDeLaSqueegeeMop

I find it quite amusing that so many people on here are 'meh' about the hundreds of people packing into nightclubs, but throwing names at people going to the supermarket without masks, as they are apparently self appointed spokespeople for shop workers 😂
Well, nightclubs aren't the subject of the thread. But yes, I think that's massively irresponsible of the government too, especially since most people going clubbing won't be vaccinated yet.
hamsterchump · 19/07/2021 14:27

I've kept a list of what individual pubs and shops etc have said about masks and will be avoiding the ones who are trying to make them mandatory and choosing to use the other ones who've said it's a choice and up to each person. Presumably this is what should please those definitely continuing with masks, they can keep their to own places and I'll keep to mine. There seems to be enough of each so seems fair enough to me. I do hope the small businesses don't come on in a few weeks to moan about their recovery not being what was expected though. Suits me fine, I like shopping online and won't miss most high street shops anyway to be honest, be nicer if they were all restaurants and bars and leisure places with much needed (hopefully affordable) accommodation above anyway.

Gooseberrypies · 19/07/2021 14:28

@Thewholeshackshimmy

I’ve just popped into my local Tesco. I would say that around 80-85% were still wearing masks. I did note that the majority of those not wearing them were people under 30.
Thank god. Children, teens and young adults have sacrificed so much at very little benefit to themselves already!
Vintagevixen · 19/07/2021 14:31

Ditching mine - well not a mask, I always just knotted a thin silk scarf around my face - with relief and wherever possible.

Will carry my scarf for those places that insist.

paddingtonbearmeetsdeadpool · 19/07/2021 14:31

I think our borders should close and no one should go in and out of the country until the rest of Europe are vaccinated. Why are people in a hurry to leave the country and open up night clubs. I worry about this generation and their education. Mark my words there will be another lockdown and children will suffer because of it. In stead we are arguing over masks and not discussing how the next doctors, surgeons, or scientists be educated. Why cant we stay still for our children but you know what will happen we will get those skills from abroad when covid has calmed down and everyone is vaccinated.

gardeninggirl68 · 19/07/2021 14:32

@knittingaddict er yes, I was!!!

Customer altercations are a source of entertainment for many. It's been 16 months of it!! And actually no, the mask less one may be EXEMPT. We have several staff exempt staff. Nobody needs to challenge anyone

I've had a few exempt customers needing support to just pay and leave. Some visibly scared others unwell at the whole ordeal

Doodlebug71 · 19/07/2021 14:33

@IntermittentParps

I'll continue to wear mine as I have been. I might be in a shop/cafe for ten minutes but the staff in there may be stuck there for a long shift and interacting with many people. It's a no-brainer AFAIC. I will say though that the government's mealy-mouthed 'stance' on this is bound to create tensions and divisions, especially for people like those on here who seem to be taking the opportunity to have a fight about it, and it should have just continued to be a legal requirement.
The, "You can't make me" attitude is one that starts with parental attitudes. I used to see that a lot in schools. Teachers know that those kids have parents who are worse. It's disappointing to see so many of them on MN, doing the, "You can't make me: I'll do as I please...." crap. There is no personal responsibility there at all.

It's bad enough when they're being asked to stop disrupting a class. Refusing to engage with the barrier methods intended to keep everyone safe and healthy: that's just appalling.

hamsterchump · 19/07/2021 14:33

@Drinkingallthewine How will they charge you anyway for providing nothing? Who would pay that? You're dreaming. I suppose they could keep a deposit if you've given one but they can sing for the rest. As for filling the gap well if it's that easy they won't care then will they so not sure why you're moaning.

Tara336 · 19/07/2021 14:35

I’m taking immune suppression drugs, so your wrong OP there are some of us walking around who are vulnerable/poorly. I will not be allowing anyone into our premises without a mask and our staff will wear masks when dealing with them. If any visitor refuses to wear a mask they will not be coming in, the virus didn’t disappear at midnight it’s still here and more infectious. It may not be a legal responsibility to wear a mask but I feel it’s a moral one, so I will happily continue to wear a mask for my own and others safety.