Dog bit me, DH saying it is my own fault

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Playing in the garden with DS age 3 and DH. We were playing water balloons / water fight. I grabbed hose without thinking and started spraying DH, then my DS had s go, by this point our (usually well behaved) dog was getting wound up and leaping at the hose. I saw her leap close to DS with jaws open so I grabbed hose from him to turn it off and the dog leapt at me and bit my hand. It felt like my whole hand went in her mouth and she bit down hard on one of my fingers. I was annoyed and shouted that I was pissed off with the dog and that I've had enough of her (just a few things lately, like eating cat poo and puking it inside, barking at nothing in the night and waking us all up) I'm 25 weeks pregnant so a bit moody and sensitive. ALSO it could have been DS's hand so I was in shock.

DH is now in a mood, saying I know what happens when the hose is sprayed and than it is my fault for being silly - I accept that, it is. But since he hasn't been over to check I'm actually ok or said anything to me, just taken DS inside to watch a film.

Yes the dog has form for being excitable and I should have known but wtf why is he being such a dick about this?

Whiskycav you intentionally miss the point. No dog who is going to be around multiple toddlers, should be biting hard enough during "play" to break the skin

It didn’t break the skin….

As you said it was your fault so I’m not sure what you expect your husband to do , the skins not broken it’s a bruised finger , I wouldn’t expect someone to check on me / ask me if I was ok if I had a bruised finger .

Do people really live like this? A dog bites you and bruises your finger (while pregnant) and you don't expect your husband to even ASK how you are? Some really cold marriages out there.

@Ciaobaby92

Whiskycav you intentionally miss the point. No dog who is going to be around multiple toddlers, should be biting hard enough during "play" to break the skin and you are insane to believe otherwise. The behavior needs to be addressed and corrected. I have a dog who falls into a complete state of joy having little kids play on him. He's never ever even come close to biting.. There are a lot of dogs like that.

As far as different temperament terms for dogs, and what they mean, maybe you should do a little reading and educate yourself before trying to declare yourself as some kind of expert. But you don't even recognize common temperament terms LOL

Christ you're just making shit up now. The bite didn't break the skin.

I wish I knew which rescue you work for. You should be sacked.

These are the risks you surely knowingly take when you bring an animal with teeth into your home. Why people risk it, I do not know. That could have been your child's face.
Not go mention the repulsive unsanitary behaviour such as eating then vomiting cat pop, and just being an anus- and genitals- licking walking biohazard. 🤮🤮🤮
Your children need to be kept safe, from both risks.

@Ciaobaby92

Whiskycav you intentionally miss the point. No dog who is going to be around multiple toddlers, should be biting hard enough during "play" to break the skin and you are insane to believe otherwise. The behavior needs to be addressed and corrected. I have a dog who falls into a complete state of joy having little kids play on him. He's never ever even come close to biting.. There are a lot of dogs like that.

As far as different temperament terms for dogs, and what they mean, maybe you should do a little reading and educate yourself before trying to declare yourself as some kind of expert. But you don't even recognize common temperament terms LOL

What are you talking about? Your clearly haven't read anything on this thread.

The bite didn't break the skin. Who said it didn't need addressing? Op wasn't addressing the behaviour , it wasn't a training session. Op knows this is a common behaviour for the dog and went ahead anyway

You can not work in a rescue if you can't not tell the difference between an aggressive bite and what happened here. Both would be addressed in completely different way.

You said a toddler should be able to able to pull a dogs tail. Not they shouldn't, at all.

Generally dogs who allow that aren't just 'sweet natured they are dogs that are scared to react if something hurts them, those dogs can be quite dangerous as one day they snap with no warning.

But let's say a dog does allow a toddler to pull its tail or swing offs it's ears, that should never be allowed to happen. The toddler should not be allowed to do that and never left alone with dog to get chance to do it. It cruel for a start and puts both dog and toddler at huge risk. It's poor dog ownership and poor parenting. A great natured dog, could be put in a lot of pain from a pull or their tail or ear.

I am glad your dog allows kids to to roll around with it. How is that relevant?

'Spike natured' isn't a common term in the UK. But I didn't ask that. I asked why you thought that applied to this dog?

You are clearly a person who knows very little, can't be arsed to read the thread and likes to pretend they know what they are talking about. You certainly shouldn't be assessing dogs.

Oh FGS whiskeycav. Etc. You are a bit over the top on this I think, or maybe it's just your aggressive personality. I actually agree a toddler should not use a dog as a jungle jim. But they still will even if they know they shouldn't. Little kids are loud and move fast, a good natured dog is essential with little children.

Now do you have you had anything helpful to add for OP or are you just going to keep whining.

I think everything is fine, dog got carried away and you got hurt due to your own actions. DH took DC inside so shouty and annoyed Mum could calm down in peace.

Who will most certainly be pulling things out of the dogs mouth, tail tugging, screaching, ear pulling, etc. This may not be the kind of dog who can handle that kind of interaction.

Kids should be taught not to pull dogs ears. If they’re too young not to, they they should be supervised.

Dogs aren’t able to tell you when they have an ailment, so you run the risk of the dog one day being in pain and the child poking it right in the sore spot, provoking a defensive reaction. Unlikely but possible. My friend’s dog was gentle as they come but he first realised it had a health problem when he went to rub its belly and it snapped at him. It was in pain and most animals will react defensively in this instance.

Jesus, I actually think there is some kind of mumsnet petition to wipe dogs of the face of the earth at the moment.
OP played with the hose, dog got overexcited and went for the hose. He bit OPs hand BY ACCIDENT (didn't even break the skin, not exactly a mauling). OP saw dogs jaw open near her child's face (which dog would not have been near unless OP was squirting water that way) and panicked. If you panic this much over your own dogs perfectly normal behaviour I would suggest you are not cut out for dog ownership.
With regards to the complete idiot that believes dogs should put up and shut up as toddlers dangle off their ears and tails, words fail me! Some dogs do, mine included (or walk away). Some dogs find it stressful and try to tell us with their body language, 99.9% of the time you can tell a dog is upset by kids prodding and poking it, unfortunately stupid owners let it carry on until disaster happens and then act shocked that the dog did it.
Also would you put up with kids prodding, poking and dangling off you? No, you would tell them to get off, dogs try...they just dont have words!!!

Oh, and if you have a toddler so poorly supervised that it is pulling toys out of a dogs mouth I would suggest parenting classes rather than dog training. I know who needs training up and more times than gets admitted on here it isn't the dog.

You are both making a huge drama over nothing. The dog grabbed, because they use their mouths like hands, it was playing, and grabbed the wrong thing by accident. There is a world of difference between this an an actual bite.

@Ciaobaby92

Oh FGS whiskeycav. Etc. You are a bit over the top on this I think, or maybe it's just your aggressive personality. I actually agree a toddler should not use a dog as a jungle jim. But they still will even if they know they shouldn't. Little kids are loud and move fast, a good natured dog is essential with little children.

Now do you have you had anything helpful to add for OP or are you just going to keep whining.

I think @Whiskycav is correct in this, people should teach their children not to pull dogs tails or irritate them. Even the best natured dog could one day get sick if it, and it's pretty shitty parenting if you would just expect a dog to take that from a child. This dog didn't break skin and wasn't dangerous, OP simply got in the way.

@Ciaobaby92

Oh FGS whiskeycav. Etc. You are a bit over the top on this I think, or maybe it's just your aggressive personality. I actually agree a toddler should not use a dog as a jungle jim. But they still will even if they know they shouldn't. Little kids are loud and move fast, a good natured dog is essential with little children.

Now do you have you had anything helpful to add for OP or are you just going to keep whining.

Oh dear...aggressive? Are you obsessed with aggression OP says clearly it wasn't aggressive, but you think it was.

I am aggressive because you can't handle being wrong. How would you know if I am aggressive through a written word.

No, a dog should never have a toddler dangling off it. And no...todderls don't do this. I have had dogs my entire life. As a child and then owned my own for over twenty years. A toddler has never dangled off any of my dogs. Non of my families childhood dogs have been pulled by a child.

Because that's cruel. It could really harm or injury the dog. Do you know what injuries can happen from a dogs tail being pulled? A toddler and dog should NEVER be in a situation where that is allowed to happen.

A good natured dog is ideal with the child. The dog here has donr nothing, that suggests it's not good natured or doing anything it's not been allowed to do in the past.

It may come as a shock to you, you but don't get to tell people what they can and can't post. And when someone is posting complete rubbish.....especially when claiming to be some sort of expert, I will say.

You haven't even read thread. Can't back up and of your 'expert' opinion and feel that dogs around children must be able to be abused 'cause its happened'.

I haven't been aggressive. But you have been really rude. I expect because you relapse you have been incorrect.

Really not sure how somebody aggressive whines, since you have said I am doing both.

It sounds totally accidental and you sound incredibly inexperienced. As a dog owner if you play with a dog you can get hurt, the vast majority of the time they take care not to hurt you in play but occasionally accidentally they do. What you can do is do an exaggerated noise of pain which communicates to the dog they’ve gone too far and they need to be a bit more sensitive.

As for vomiting inside and eating cat poo, the former a dog can’t help, sometimes you can get them out in time but if you can’t what are they meant to do, know how to vomit down the toilet? The latter, cats apparently don’t digest a part of their food very well which makes their poo pretty protein rich. Yes it’s rank but that’s why.

You don’t sound like you know much about dogs or like your dog, maybe a visit to a good, gentle trainer might be a good way forward to understanding (and hopefully liking) your dog.

You sound irresponsible and not too clever. I hope you are a better parent to your children than owner to your dog. People like you piss me off.

@EeeppP

These are the risks you surely knowingly take when you bring an animal with teeth into your home. Why people risk it, I do not know. That could have been your child's face. Not go mention the repulsive unsanitary behaviour such as eating then vomiting cat pop, and just being an anus- and genitals- licking walking biohazard. 🤮🤮🤮 Your children need to be kept safe, from both risks.

The OP hasn’t been back since yesterday afternoon, so I don’t think she’ll be back. I think this is because the thread didn’t go the way she expected it to??

There's absolutely no way that dog would be staying in the house with my toddler and a soon to be newborn!

Do you know who doesn't 'know better' than to 'get a dog excited'? Small children.

It was your fault - you got the dog all wound up and overexcited, and your dog grabbed your hand - because dogs don't have hands, they grab with their mouths, and a playbite is an entirely legitimate manoeuvre for a dog when playing with other dogs.

If the dog had actually intended to bite you, it would have done far more damage.

It sounds to me as if your dog had intended to bite something else (i.e. the hose / water coming out of it), suddenly found his jaws around your hand and removed any pressure as soon as he realised what was going on.

Dogs will be dogs, and you're the adult in this situation.

@BlueSurfer

That sounds like the dog accidentally bit you after you wound her up and you’ve now realised your actions meant your DS could have been bitten instead. I’d be quite annoyed if someone knew their actions could have resulted in what happened which could have meant my dog being pts.

I agree with this. ^ I hope your hand is ok, it does sound a bit like you want to get rid of the dog though….. If a dog intentionally bites, you’ll know about it. My lab sneaks his jaw up his toy when we play tug of war and he caught my thumb once, hurt like hell. (I wasn’t looking). He was instantly sorry, let go immediately and went very submissive. Dog trainer told me not to play with his mouth when he was a pup. Don’t play with the hose!

& Get some chilli powder for the poo he likes eating!

If you know a dog is wound up which you did you don’t bother play with the hose
I think it’s everyone’s fault

@summersflowers

I’m not necessarily saying to get rid of the dog but I don’t think that the DHs response is particularly fair or kind.

It’s a young family with a three year old and baby on the way. They absolutely should be able to have water fights and squeal and shout and be silly without thinking first someone might be bitten.

What you've written would be reasonable if the dog were a competent adult human.

The dog is, however, a dog and as such is subject to behaving like a, y'know, like a dog.

The answer for how to have squealy shouty water fights without getting bitten is to put the dog in the house before it gets out of hand.

Children absolutely shouldn’t be climbing on/pulling at/annoying dogs. Even in the best case scenario with a very gentle dog who won’t bite them, it still won’t be enjoying it. So even though the dog won’t react, it still isn’t acceptable for your child to pull/hurt an animal. Pretty basic parenting really.

The fact you felt the need to mention petty behaviours IE eating cat crap, also the common, I'm pregnant, says how you actually feel, you don't want the dog anymore and a precious newborn will be arriving.