Are "barely there" dresses acceptable in high profile public?

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Are "barely there" dresses acceptable? I saw this this in the Mail this morning, and there were the usual comments: "and they wonder why men sexualize them..." etc.
I wondered if there were any views? www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9792613/Cannes-Film-Festival-2021-Kimberley-Garner-flashes-bottom-Georgina-Rodriguez.html#comments

Yes it happens because it’s a trope that juries like. Taps into good girl /bad girl notion

Absolutely but it means that what you wear does matter even if it shouldn't.

Tbh it is an obvious arms race of “sexualising one self more than the next woman”, and even if they’re not doing it purely for male attention, they are clearly doing it for press attention as that is their professional oxygen … it does seem naive to view dressing for attention&male gaze (ie highlighting sex organs / thinness versus say, physical fitness or luxurious materials) as women doing it “for themselves” as the confidence one gains from looking a certain way surely comes from being aware of ones sexual power in the eyes of men. Women treat attractive women better too.
It’s bleak and I hate to see women judged negatively for “expressing themselves” but until the men are flaunting their abs/dick prints/tight butts etc it’s hard to see it as anything other than pandering to male sexuality …..

I wonder how much input some of them actually get - but I've seen worse on the red carpet.

I liked the yellow trouser suit and bonkers cape - thought it looked on her.

Yes, hell yes. The patriarchal system demands a priddy dress,vertiginous heels to fit in. Be compliant to fit in,get the right casting,get the right agent.

@SoMuchForSummerLove

Gah....

What I said is - for the final time as that's three times now - it's a waste of time challenging women's clothing choices, when what needs challenged is, well, the entire patriarchal structure. But obviously that's a huge and overwhelming task so what happens is we get threads sniping about the women caught up in it instead. Much easier targets.

I get what you're saying, don't worry.

It's just a slightly more sophisticated variation of "of course he's wrong but WHAT ABOUT THE HARLOT???". Also seen when famous married men shag around ("yes, he's wrong, but HOW COULD SHE?"). Or when women wear sexy outfits in cosplay. Men invented and drew the characters but the women are vulgar and pathetic for dressing like them. And on and on forever.

I can't believe it is 2021 and people don't see how sexist the system is that pits women against each other to show off most flesh, when men are not under equivalent pressure
Nor can I @Grellbunt. Apparently, according to @HarebrightCedarmoon there were men wearing revealing outfits, but is funny how when I Google images for "Cannes film festival 2021" all the men are wearing suits, nothing revealing at all.

Well. Its "empowering" innit?
Funny how empowering always seems to mean pandering to the Male Gaze though
Odd how that works out
Hmmm
Totally agree @MistyGreenAndBlue

women wear bikinis in the beach, actors and actresses bare all in films, what is the problem with cut out dresses?
@Smokeball, maybe because normally when women are scantily clad at the beach the men are too. When "actors and actresses bare all in films" suggests they are both doing it. However, on the red carpet it’s only women feeling the need to do this, not the men. Why is that? This is what bothers me. If the “meat market” approach was the same for women and men I wouldn’t care so much about it.

The DM is read by, and aimed squarely at, women. Plenty of women on this thread have got stuff to say about it.

Cannes isn't a Daily Mail event.

The dress is horrible but it has served it’s purpose of gaining column inches.

Apols for the apostrophe crime

it's a waste of time challenging women's clothing choices, when what needs challenged is, well, the entire patriarchal structure.
Come on then, how do we do that then ?
Write a letter to someone ? Start a petition, who is the boss of the patriarchal society, so I can get my note pad and pen out ?
Or perhaps we could stop conforming to it ?

God, why do people do that? You see it all the time on Coronavirus threads. Come on then, fix it, tell us how you'd fix it, you've pointed out a problem, you must be able to fix it, tell us then.

If one woman could fix it, don't you think it would be done by now?

@JM10

To be honest if I had a bum like that I'd probably want to show people too 😁

Me too. My arse would never be away if it looked like hers.

@SoMuchForSummerLove

God, why do people do that? You see it all the time on Coronavirus threads. Come on then, fix it, tell us how you'd fix it, you've pointed out a problem, you must be able to fix it, tell us then.

If one woman could fix it, don't you think it would be done by now?

One way of fixing it would be to refuse to collude with it. We saw the collective power of women at the 2018 or Me Too Oscars.

Did we though? People still turned up glammed up to the nines. It was good for their careers to do so. And it clearly hasn't really had any long term impact.

@Bumblenums1234

If I had a body like that I would never wear clothes

Well, you would because eventually you’d get tired of sleazy men following you and saying disgusting things to you any chance they get. Unless it was an all female society or you had your own security team I really doubt you would enjoy the real life experience of being an attractive scantily clad woman walking about in the real world … Source : used to do it myself before the creeps made me wanna cover up forever

One way of fixing it would be to refuse to collude with it. We saw the collective power of women at the 2018 or Me Too Oscars.
Exactly.
Defending this shit, is just perpetuating the cycle.

@SoMuchForSummerLove

God, why do people do that? You see it all the time on Coronavirus threads. Come on then, fix it, tell us how you'd fix it, you've pointed out a problem, you must be able to fix it, tell us then.

If one woman could fix it, don't you think it would be done by now?

Why are people that talk in soundbites, unable to elaborate on them when challenged ?

if one woman could fix it, don't you think it would be done by now?
Bit of a passive stance, you'll never bring down the patriarchy with that kind of attitude.

@SoMuchForSummerLove

Did we though? People still turned up glammed up to the nines. It was good for their careers to do so. And it clearly hasn't really had any long term impact.

Glammed up to the nines and half naked aren’t quite the same thing.

Every woman who attended the 2018 Oscars conformed with the dress code. It was a very powerful statement of female actors displaying solidarity. I agree it hasn’t had any long term impact which is a shame and the reason for that is down to women choosing to dress for the male gaze. I guess they’re two very different categories of women though.

Maybe she didn't want her BBL to go to waste 👀

I was expecting worse, I thought they looked lovely.

I'm never going to bring down the patriarchy. None of us are. Not sure why you think a random on MN might be able to tell you how it can be done.

@comebacksunshines

The DM is read by, and aimed squarely at, women. Plenty of women on this thread have got stuff to say about it.

Cannes isn't a Daily Mail event.

No but who's chosen to report the event by using these pictures? See the OP.

I don't know who any of them are but I think they all look beautiful. If I looked like that I'd probably wear similar!

@Mousetown

The black one is a bit odd with cycling shorts. I hate the contrived flaunt my legs and / back / bust / bum. It’s a meat market and attracts a certain type of person eg Harvey Weinstein

I can’t believe it’s 2021 and women still make comments like this.

I can’t believe it is 2021 and people don't see how sexist the system is that pits women against each other to show off most flesh, when men are not under equivalent pressure

I agree with you. I’m not sure why you replied with this, unless you agree with the poster saying that showing flesh attracts people who will sexually assault you? Is that what you think?

I don't see why women can't say things like that in 2021 - it IS a meat market and it certainly doesn't put the Weinsteins of this world off... I'm not saying women are to blame as such, OF COURSE NOT, but I do think we need to be able to talk honestly about the messages that clothes send. The human male is aroused by the half naked female body and it's naive to pretend otherwise!

I'm not saying women are to blame as such, OF COURSE NOT, but I do think we need to be able to talk honestly about the messages that clothes send.

Ooh, "as such". How....sinister.

How do you reconcile the first part of your sentence with the second part?

I just don't understand why they pose with a leg out all the time. Nothing wrong with a spilt but not to expose the backside!