Are "barely there" dresses acceptable in high profile public?

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Are "barely there" dresses acceptable? I saw this this in the Mail this morning, and there were the usual comments: "and they wonder why men sexualize them..." etc.
I wondered if there were any views? www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9792613/Cannes-Film-Festival-2021-Kimberley-Garner-flashes-bottom-Georgina-Rodriguez.html#comments

Well, yes, I am happy to defend women who choose to wear whatever the fuck they want.

I don't think you need to get your bum out on the red carpet for Weinstein to assault you.

But nice to know that people will say you must have done if he did...and that you were in the wrong.

God these comments are a arse hairs length away from being “well if anything happens to her she was asking for it dressing like that”
Depressing.

If you're going to say "of course women have the right to wear what they want", you need to mean "without misogynistic judgement".

If you're merely acknowledging that it's not actually illegal before you go into your rant about what awful human beings they must be, it really doesn't count.

Predators like Weinstein attack women because they want to,because they can. Nothing to do with how the women are dressed everything to do with his violence and depraved lust. Let’s not blame women attire for male violence

She has a envious figure. I don’t see any reason why she should wear that dress to the premier of a film festive.

If you got it

Lets not blame womens attire for male violence

Incredible that this still needs to be said.

Indeed, I’m incredulous too that it needs to be emphasised

@SoMuchForSummerLove

Well, yes, I am happy to defend women who choose to wear whatever the fuck they want.

I don't think anyone on this thread has said women should not wear what they want, my own post has repeatedly stated 'their choice' But this brand of empowerment, as they will probably choose to define it, involves pandering to the male gaze. How wonderful you are choosing to defend that.

I have no issue with seeing thighs or bums tbh. We all have them. Most of those dresses are hideous but none are as bad as that awful gold feathery trouser suit abomination.

I remember the time Kristen Stewart refused to wear heels,wore trainers to an event

Obviously women can wear what they want. But it’s sad they have to show all rather than be seen for their own merit.

They can be achieving women with their own merit AND wear what they want. There's a novel concept.

If you had understood my posts you'd see I haven't defended it. Rather, what I've said is, yes it's shite, but it can't be solved by slagging off the choices these woman have to make if they choose this career path.

Or did kirsten go barefoot to the event? I’ll need to google it. I recall she hoiked off the vertiginous heels

@SoMuchForSummerLove

Lets not blame womens attire for male violence

Incredible that this still needs to be said.

You missed the memo. 'Women are responsible for what men do'.

It is Mumsnet, after all. This is the on which a lone woman inviting a male into her home (extremely vulnerable situation) and giving him biscuits was berated for questioning whether she should have done so: because 'He might have Type 1 diabetes'. Nowhere had he ever mentioned he had diabetes.

The lengths to which some women will go to appease and excuse men - often at the cost of relinquishing their own boundaries and personal safety - is nothing short of miraculous.

The patriarchy has done a good number on these people.

Instead of berating women for the clothes that are industry standard, cast a critical eye over an industry that demands women wear vertiginous heels and evening dresses

Surprised that people think Cannes is a classy event - isn’t the red carpet there well known for being a “catalogue” of beautiful women for rich / connected men to take on “dates”..?

@DrSbaitso

Of course they want to be looked at.

But that's not a crime either, especially in showbiz.

Well yes narcissism is par for the course in that industry.

Cannes,classy. That’s an oxymoron
Cannes is surveyors and house builders having a jolly at mipim with free bar and buffet

"Lets not blame womens attire for male violence

Incredible that this still needs to be said"

I agree but on the other hand what you are wearing is brought up in court cases which is wrong but it happens.

@SoMuchForSummerLove

If you had understood my posts you'd see I haven't defended it. Rather, what I've said is, yes it's shite, but it can't be solved by slagging off the choices these woman have to make if they choose this career path.

I understand fully what you are saying, in your rather conflicted and contradictory posts.

but it can't be solved by slagging off the choices these woman have to make if they choose this career path.

Well how to you suppose we resolve it then. Defend their freedom to dress in a way, that just so happens to pander to the male gaze, win win (for men) or should it be challenged, like it is being by some posters on this thread ?

Yes it happens because it’s a trope that juries like. Taps into good girl /bad girl notion

But this brand of empowerment, as they will probably choose to define it, involves pandering to the male gaze

The DM is read by, and aimed squarely at, women. Plenty of women on this thread have got stuff to say about it.

Men, by and large, really don't give a toot about the colour and the style and the fashion and what have you. Extreme fashion is for women.

Put it this way, if they were posing for a lads' mag or whatever thr equivalent is now, this would not be the aesthetic.

Gah....

What I said is - for the final time as that's three times now - it's a waste of time challenging women's clothing choices, when what needs challenged is, well, the entire patriarchal structure. But obviously that's a huge and overwhelming task so what happens is we get threads sniping about the women caught up in it instead. Much easier targets.

@comebacksunshines

I think if you direct the focus onto your body and looks , then that is what people will remember you for, irrespective of your other achievements. That's entirely their choice, but you can't complain later when people applaud your body and fail to take you seriously as an actor.

Exactly this