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To think freedom from lockdown will be cancelled before Monday

288 replies

Viviennemary · 13/07/2021 18:34

I think there will be backpedalling on the lockdown lifting. Really pessimistic news today. We are being prepared. IMHO.

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Turquoisesol · 13/07/2021 19:31

I don’t mean a full lockdown though. Just mask wearing, large gathering of people indoors etc. The way schools are run with massive numbers of children in confined space with no ventilation etc etc. These are modern ways of life that don’t actually need to be run like this. We can change things slightly to limit constant mixing

caughtinanet · 13/07/2021 19:32

Did you hear Whitty and Balance yesterday, the scientific consensus is that this is the least worst time I've not heard the news today, has something so catastrophic happened that they've all changed their views?

JordanPickford · 13/07/2021 19:33

I thought they might back pedal yesterday but they didn’t , so they definitely won’t now.

Then again, they have in the sense that the lifting of restrictions is no longer said to be “irreversible”.

TableFlowerss · 13/07/2021 19:34

@ConstanceGracy

Oh this old chestnut

Think you’re going to have to get used to it as it’s happening regardless. I assume you don’t get in to a car incase you’re involved in a crash!…..

lioncitygirl · 13/07/2021 19:38

Why would they though - it’s going to be way worse in winter. When will we ever live if we constantly go into lockdown? I have nothing against people who don’t want to go out or travel. But I will be.

OohThatCat · 13/07/2021 19:42

I don't think they will back track but I do think they will ramp up the "personal responsibility" language to cover their own arses / blame the general public

amylou8 · 13/07/2021 19:42

@TheDevils

They can cancel all they like, and while yes I may be restricted on places open, I will be cracking on seeing my friends and family and having gatherings. If other people want to stay in more you do you, I'll do me.

Yep. Me too.

And me three!

So many people have had their lives turned upside down over a virus that has practically zero chance of making them anything more than a bit poorly. We've taken vaccines probably more likely to kill us than the virus they're supposed to prevent. We've done this (with only a bit of grumbling) to protect people who are at more risk. The same people now have the audacity to call us selfish for wanting to resume some sort of normality. I've well and truly had enough.

TableFlowerss · 13/07/2021 19:44

amylou8

TheDevils
They can cancel all they like, and while yes I may be restricted on places open, I will be cracking on seeing my friends and family and having gatherings. If other people want to stay in more you do you, I'll do me.

Yep. Me too.

**And me three!

So many people have had their lives turned upside down over a virus that has practically zero chance of making them anything more than a bit poorly. We've taken vaccines probably more likely to kill us than the virus they're supposed to prevent. We've done this (with only a bit of grumbling) to protect people who are at more risk. The same people now have the audacity to call us selfish for wanting to resume some sort of normality. I've well and truly had enough**

Me four!!!

claralara42 · 13/07/2021 19:45

You're not in lockdown. You can't have freedom from something that no longer exists.
Look around you....how can you possibly imagine you are in any kind of lockdown?

FreezerBird · 13/07/2021 19:46

@carrysymons

The vaccine was always heralded as the only way out of this pandemic yet it seems some people would be happy for these restrictions to continue for ever. I just don't understand that attitude.

I don't know anyone who's happy about restrictions particularly. But in a situation like our family's - DH, DS and I all double jabbed, but DD who is CEV has had no jabs as she's only 12 - I don't feel bad about being a bit concerned about how things might go now.

(We're in Wales though, so not exactly the same)

JassyRadlett · 13/07/2021 19:46

Nope, we’re going to get our apparent wish of being a giant science experiment for the rest of the world to learn from.

Getyourarseofffthequattro · 13/07/2021 19:47

@claralara42

You're not in lockdown. You can't have freedom from something that no longer exists. Look around you....how can you possibly imagine you are in any kind of lockdown?
Oh have you worn a mask all your life? Have your children been out of school this amount every year? Have you always been worried every text is one from school about another 10 day isolation. Have you always been off work for months at a time every year? Have you always had to sign in at a restaurant?

It's such utter shite when people say it's just like normal look around you. Bullshit.

Crowtooyo · 13/07/2021 19:47

There's not much of a lockdown left and to be honest, if he doesn't go ahead with lifting the rules in weddings I'll be mightily pissed off after seeing the scenes at the football. Hypocritical.

warmfluffytowels · 13/07/2021 19:49

Even if it did happen, nobody would listen anymore anyway.

DemBonesDemBones · 13/07/2021 19:49

Our secondary has more pupils out than in! Worse than it's ever been.

claralara42 · 13/07/2021 19:49

Oh have you worn a mask all your life? Have your children been out of school this amount every year? Have you always been worried every text is one from school about another 10 day isolation. Have you always been off work for months at a time every year? Have you always had to sign in at a restaurant?It's such utter shite when people say it's just like normal look around you. Bullshit.

None of those thing equal lockdown. The streets are teeming, sports and gigs are fully attended, restaurants and bars are filled to the gills, people are back to work and kids are in school.
Wearing a mask doesn't mean you're in lockdown, ffs. Stop with the dramatics!!

BlatantlyNameChanged · 13/07/2021 19:50

So many people have had their lives turned upside down over a virus that has practically zero chance of making them anything more than a bit poorly.*

A bit more than zero chance even when you factor in personal risk factors rather than overall risk and death isn't the only risk as the increasing numbers of people suffering Long Covid show.

We've taken vaccines probably more likely to kill us than the virus they're supposed to prevent.

Again, inaccurate. The risk of side effects from the vaccine is far lower than the risk of side effects from covid.

We've done this (with only a bit of grumbling) to protect people who are at more risk.

That wasn't the sole reason for lockdown. It was to prevent the NHS from being overwhelmed and to try and minimise the case numbers and deaths. If the NHS collapsed then heart attacks, car crashes, serious accidents, births, strokes, etc have nowhere to go. Trying to conserve capacity within the healthcare system was a major priority. The death rate with controls was high enough, it would have been far higher without.

The same people now have the audacity to call us selfish for wanting to resume some sort of normality.

Which people would they be? Disabled people have been treated appallingly by the government during covid and now they're about to be thrown under the bus again, don't you think they have reason to be concerned when the official advice is pretty much "suck it up, some of you might die, try and go shopping when it's quieter"?

No one wants to be in lockdown forever but at least keep your arguments for it factual.

Getyourarseofffthequattro · 13/07/2021 19:51

@claralara42

Oh have you worn a mask all your life? Have your children been out of school this amount every year? Have you always been worried every text is one from school about another 10 day isolation. Have you always been off work for months at a time every year? Have you always had to sign in at a restaurant?It's such utter shite when people say it's just like normal look around you. Bullshit.

None of those thing equal lockdown. The streets are teeming, sports and gigs are fully attended, restaurants and bars are filled to the gills, people are back to work and kids are in school.
Wearing a mask doesn't mean you're in lockdown, ffs. Stop with the dramatics!!

It's not normal though is it?

It's not even close to normal. It's not dramatic to say that NONE of those things were commonplace before. It's not dramatic it's just a fact.

Why are you trying to minimise the impact all those things have on people's lives? Are you trying to pretend they don't impact people's lives?

iamtheoneandonlyyy · 13/07/2021 19:52

@Sapphire387 East Midlands for me.
I doubt they will change plans to reopen but I don't think the shows over yet

Macaroni46 · 13/07/2021 19:52

It's the isolations that are causing so many problems, not the number of cases! That's what needs to end in my opinion.
And all the testing. So many are testing positive but not ill and no symptoms but have to sit indoors for 10 days. This is affecting mainly kids and young people. That's why schools etc are so disrupted. It's time to stop this bubbles and isolating madness as it's penalising the youngsters unfairly.

MarsandPluto · 13/07/2021 19:54

I think it will go ahead for now, and all the politicians and their chums (from all parties) will go away on their extended holidays and come September there will restrictions or lockdowns imposed. Javid did say this will be reviewed in September. I obviously don't have a crystal ball before a smarty pant poster asks me, it's just my guess, which at the moment is all we can do.

NoIDontWatchLoveIsland · 13/07/2021 19:54

No, I'm certain it won't be cancelled.

Of courses cases are high. If you look at the public health data it's running riot among people 18-30, i.e those unlikely to be fully vaccinated yet. Hospitalizations are up but rising at a fraction of the speed they were before. We need to get through this to get to hard immunity now.

BlatantlyNameChanged · 13/07/2021 19:54

Northumberland here and I could rattle you off a list of three dozen families currently infected before having to stop and think "and who else?", a lot of them are double jabbed too. Two of the local schools are closed and another has roughly half of the year groups off isolating.

All the rhetoric around "Freedom Day" is bullshit too. Loft rhe restrictions by all means but all the posturing about freedom and the nationalistic undertone is very 1939.

claralara42 · 13/07/2021 19:55

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Confiscatedpopit · 13/07/2021 19:56

The way people are still going on you’d think it was the Black Death. I’ll repeat what others will say- do you want this to go on forever? When will enough be enough? What type of life is that really?

It’s not going away, it kills a very small amount of people now and most people have weighed up the potential risks and aren’t bothered in the slightest anymore about it. It’s the new national media obsession now we are past Brexit.

For those who have had both vaccinations and are still terrified of the virus (I have to say it usually goes hand in hand with those who have the luxury of working from home for good money and good job security and having other people deliver stuff to their doors) then stay in. I honestly think a large proportion of these people are actually enjoying this- it’s an excuse to be anti- social, lazy and controlling/sneery about the actions of other people.

Anyone who is ECV or caring for someone in that category should be financially compensated hugely and told to stay at home. That should be it- no more furlough, working from home- time to move on. If people are ‘terrified’ without just cause after having both vaccinations then that’s their problem- not mine.