To think bangers and mash implies veg too?

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My kids love sausage and mash. I always do it with at least one type of veg, preferably two. Peas, carrots, broccoli sort of thing.

We stayed with PIL a while ago and MIL did sausage and mash that was exactly that - sausage, mash, gravy. Then recently my DM did the same.

It won't do DC any harm but I thought it was odd. I don't think I'd ever give DC just meat + potato for dinner unless it was a desperate situation. AIBU to think it's weird to have a dinner with no veg?

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On the rare occasion I have bangers and mash I'd be gutted if there were carrots or broccoli taking up precious potato space.

I absolutely love veg and have tonnes of it, but comfort food is an indulgence and doesn't need balance!

Bangers, mash, mushy peas and gravy.

I'd never do it without veg, I have found a lot of people are surprised my DS likes veg, they assume that young children either don't eat been or only begrudgingly, so see it as a treat to not offer veg. If I gave DS sausage and mash with no little trees tenderstem broccoli there would be uproar

Bangers and mash doesn't have veg

@DeflatedGinDrinker

Bangers and mash doesn't have veg

Thank you!

Provably wasn't clear earlier. Vegetables that form part of the make up of a curry/chilli/spaghetti bolognese is fine. Random extra vegetables seved just for the sake of it (especially with the spaghetti), Not expected or fine. Also mushy peas are evil and gravy and sweetcorn should never mix.
If in a restaurant I got unexpected vegetables I would send the dish back. Usually specify in particular no peas.

If I make fish and chips at home o do peas, broccoli and kale with it

Peak MN at it's finest, not one or even two, but three types of veg with fish and chips.

Meanwhile, out in the real world, no human has ever served any vegetables with fish and chips, except peas (mushy not garden, which are revolting), beans or a pickled onion.

Newsflash to all the competitive veg eaters who 'can't imagine' serving fewer than eleventy billion portions of fruit and veg a day, most people don't even manage five.

healthsurvey.hscic.gov.uk/data-visualisation/data-visualisation/explore-the-trends/fruit-vegetables.aspx

In 2018, only 28% of adults were eating the recommended five portions of fruit and vegetables per day – and the average (mean) was 3.7 portions per day. Fewer men than women meet the five-a-day guideline, and young people aged 16 to 24 are also less likely than other adults to get their five-a-day. In 2018, 18% of children aged 5 to 15 ate five standard portions of fruit and vegetables per day.

I'm aware that most people don't manage five portions, but that's not how I eat, or how the people I know well eat. And it's not how I was brought up - we ate lots of veg because it was a cheap way of filling up.

I like colour, varied flavours, and varied textures in my meals. Chunks of chicken with a jar of curry sauce poured over it and rice would feel like a pretty depressing meal to me.

If people are regularly serving their kids meals with no veg in, no wonder most people don't eat five a day as adults. People's eating patterns are probably largely set when they are children.

I fully agree with you on fish and chips though. The proper accompaniment is mushy peas, not broccoli.

One occasional meal without veg isn’t going to make a difference, Bangers and mash is not a particularly healthy meal and even less so for me as I’d be using ultra processed veggie sausages unless I could be bothered to make Glamorgan sausages but as B&M is a quick meal then that’s unlikely.

A spoonful of limp salad on the side makes no real nutritional differences a meal and I personally wouldn’t consider baked beans to be one of my 10 a day. The tomato sauce they are in has some value but it’s more than offset by the rest of the ingredients.

If you go somewhere where you have to eat out for a few days (like center parcs for example) it's ridiculous how few veg are served with food. Never any plain steamed broccoli or leeks or runner beans, maybe peas or baked beans as an extra on kid's menu. I can only conclude most people don't eat vegetables at every meal, which seems to me both unhealthy and somehow lacking in adult skills - having to grudgingly eat one tiny slice of cucumber, like a toddler.

Bangers and mash in my house is always served with cabbage or broccoli and peas

I'm with you OP. Not that I do bangers and mash at home. Dh not big on mash. When out for a meal I always order a side of vegetables with mine. I do make a sausage casserole which also has peppers and mushrooms in it but I do like to have something green with it as well. I now do pasta for dh instead of mash as the sauce is tomato based.

Fish and chips at home vs at a pub vs from a chip shop are all totally different beasts.

Memories of Italian DM dinners when I was young, a particular favourite being a plaice cooked in milk and butter, with potato puree. No veg.

Calves liver and onions with rich gravy, with potato puree. No veg.

Spaghetti Olio e Aglio. No veg. Something not even heard of in 1970's, we had to conceal big bottles of olive oil in the trunk of the car on the way home from holidays.

Other meals, obviously different and "balanced" with veg, but those were three of my favourites. Big difference being I suppose, all cooked fresh, from scratch, and shopped for every day.

No it really doesn't

"So you don’t serve any veg on the side of a cottage pie or toad in the hole? I don’t think I could eat them without something green. If I said I was doing toad in the hole and then just served that with nothing else I’d get confused faces."

No, I don't. Cottage pie has some veg already in it doesn't it? Carrots? In any case, I wouldn't cook those from scratch.

" we had to conceal big bottles of olive oil in the trunk of the car on the way home from holidays."

Well, that's back, unfortunately.

Cottage pie has carrots, onions & peas in it when I make it. I don't make toad in the hole, but if I did I'd probably add cabbage or something similar as otherwise it's just sausage and batter.

I’d say the veg in cottage pie are there more for flavour rather than as a portion of veg. A small amount of Onions, celery, carrots which are cooked till fairly soft and unnoticeable don’t really count to me as veg. Also I like a contrast of texture so I’d serve it with fried buttered leafy greens or roasted broccoli.

This is the most bizarre thing I have ever read on AIBU !

YABVVU it’s Sausage & Mash - it doesn’t need anything else bar gravy !

It wouldn’t cross my mind to start doing things to it, it’s perfect as it is.

You’re making a poor man’s roast dinner, you know that don’t you ?

Always with carrots, peas or broccoli here

@MrsKoala

I’d say the veg in cottage pie are there more for flavour rather than as a portion of veg. A small amount of Onions, celery, carrots which are cooked till fairly soft and unnoticeable don’t really count to me as veg. Also I like a contrast of texture so I’d serve it with fried buttered leafy greens or roasted broccoli.

I guess it depends how much you add. I don't eat meat, so use Quorn mince or lentils for the 'meat' bit of a cottage pie, and I usually have more carrots/peas/etc. in than 'meat'.

@NoProblem123

This is the most bizarre thing I have ever read on AIBU !

YABVVU it’s Sausage & Mash - it doesn’t need anything else bar gravy !

It wouldn’t cross my mind to start doing things to it, it’s perfect as it is.

You’re making a poor man’s roast dinner, you know that don’t you ?

A roast dinner usually has veg, and historically the poor have eaten plenty of veg on the basis that it's cheap and easy to grow.

Until comparatively recently, only rich people would have eaten meat several times a week.