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A library thought it appropriate to book this 'entertainment' for children and I feel sick

633 replies

flashbac · 11/07/2021 23:04

I thought it was a joke, a photoshop job, a hoax even but it's not.

WTF

A children's entertainer in a library with this costume?

twitter.com/StandingforXX/status/1414247886242598912?s=19

What the hell is this?

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thelastgoldeneagle · 12/07/2021 11:52

'Medelsome monkey'? The library staff need to read more and improve their spelling...

RedDogsBeg · 12/07/2021 11:52

@Keepitonthedownlow

They've deleted the website but yesterday were happy for this to be on it?
That child couldn't look more resistant and uncomfortable if he tried, so all those who think this is all fine and dandy come on let's hear your justification for that .
AngeloMysterioso · 12/07/2021 11:52

I don’t see what this even has to do with feminism to be honest. It’s a child safeguarding issue, not a feminist issue and absolutely does need to be brought to the attention of the wider audience that AIBU attracts.

flashbac · 12/07/2021 11:53

@BoredZelda

Some posters hide the feminism boards. This is an important topic that shouldn't be relegated to the 'naughty corner'

For good reason. I don’t think it’s up to you to decide people need to see topics they have chosen to exclude.

I don't think it's up to you to try and censor the subject of child safeguarding.
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nolongersurprised · 12/07/2021 11:53

That’s a good YouTube clip from the drag Queen Kitty Demure.

Points out that drag is an adult act, for adults. And that exposing children to it harms the children, but also harms gay men in that some people already conflate homosexual men with paedophilia and this just blurs the boundaries.

randomlyLostInWales · 12/07/2021 11:56

For good reason. I don’t think it’s up to you to decide people need to see topics they have chosen to exclude.

This is safeguarding - something I image most parents have some interest in not just feminist parents.

Though I think is also wider - my FIL, Ddad, Dh and DS wouldn't really be happy with this going on at their local libraries and it would be off putting to them as well as the female members of our family.

It's just inappropriate at every level.

flashbac · 12/07/2021 12:00

The picture of the plastic arse being flashed at women in hijab is also quite sickening. If these women had complained they would have been accused of being homophobic by virtue of their religion.

And thus is the problem, we are being gaslighted into thinking we must accept this kind of deviant behaviour because it comes in rainbow colours. If you see a problem with it you are clearly not inclusive enough. Its bullshit.
I feel sorry for LGBT people who are being dragged down by this crap.

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NotBadConsidering · 12/07/2021 12:02

DankGraveGhouls Flowers

Whatwouldscullydo · 12/07/2021 12:02

This is safeguarding - something I image most parents have some interest in not just feminist parents

This is a good example of the problem tbh. People worry about who they may or may not be aligning with when calling things out. Who may agree with them and what it means fir them if they are seen to he agreeing with something rather than just looking at the situation.

Is a man dressed up as a monkey with a dildo around children acceptable. Yes or no. That's as far as it should go.

Instead we have " oh but feminists/trump supporters/ someone who called me a.slag in yr 10 think this way therfore I'm going to think/say the opposite "

Its getting in the way of something we should all care about and that's safguarding the vulnerable members of society

CaveMum · 12/07/2021 12:02

This is the Cali response of “artist” we’re looking at. This picture is taken from their Flickr account. There’s no way they didn’t know what they were booking.

Link to Tweet: twitter.com/pro_nouns/status/1414327141735538693?s=21

DankGraveGhouls · 12/07/2021 12:03

@Keepitonthedownlow

They've deleted the website but yesterday were happy for this to be on it?
Take away the rainbow glitter package and that is a clear picture of child sexual exploitation.

They've just disguised the context, thats all.

CaveMum · 12/07/2021 12:03

For some reason my iPad has autocorrected my post - “Cali response” should be “calibre”.

VickyEadieofThigh · 12/07/2021 12:03

@MummBraTheEverLeaking

A selection of things women get told when penises get swung about in front of us, and children.
  • You bigot
  • It's a female penis
  • It didn't happen
  • You're prudes
  • If you look at it, you're a pervert
  • It's your own fault for looking
  • You shouldn't be looking
  • Your children shouldn't be looking
  • It's only genitals, we all have them
  • Why are you obsessed with genitals?
This. There are already people (mostly men) on Twitter saying exactly this in relation to this shitstorm and this is all part of the wearing down of women, grooming us to accept it.
CaveMum · 12/07/2021 12:04

@DankGraveGhouls I’m so sorry for what you went through Flowers

theDudesmummy · 12/07/2021 12:19

This is absolutely horrifying. And thank you for posting that video by the drag queen. What he says is spot on. I don't like drag anywhere at any time, but recognise it is a legitimate form of entertainment with roots going back centuries. For ADULTS.

And the monkey thing with the dildo is not even drag, it's just pornography. Which has its place, I am not anti all porn. For ADULTS.

334bu · 12/07/2021 12:28

Sorry for what you went through DarkGraveGhouls. You are quite right that it is the normalisation of sexual behaviour towards children that must be combatted. Everywhere you look , from the eejits on Twitter trying to pretend that exposing male genitalia to women and children in a spa is acceptable, to the pictures of Police officers holding the leashes of '"Pups" and children being encouraged to stroke these "Pups" is all a way to desensitise people to safeguarding issues and will result in many more children suffering abuse.

PurpleHoodie · 12/07/2021 12:32

Cavemum

Envy [boak]

GertrudeKerfuffle · 12/07/2021 12:33

The only time I have ever seen someone dressed in a monkey suit with a dildo attached was at a sex show in Amsterdam many years ago (I know, I know, but I was young and naive. Still a few years over eighteen though). That was adult entertainment, albeit puerile and tasteless and questionable even so. The monkey was running around grinding on male volunteers from the audience as a bit of light comedy before they got down to the, er, nitty gritty of the main show. The monkey from the library looks just like the sex show monkey Angry. How can anyone think that is appropriate entertainment for children??

candycane222 · 12/07/2021 12:35

Sorry guys,got my post deleted as borderline outing. What I posted was this reply from a library in Sussex (pp says uni library?)(apparently retweeted by brighton &hove libraries too) - and it made me wonder why "queering the libraries" was a good thing, and for whose benefit?

A library thought it appropriate to book this 'entertainment' for children and I feel sick
candycane222 · 12/07/2021 12:37

It was a tweet in reply to the tweet from Ireland shared by foreveraintenough

candycane222 · 12/07/2021 12:39

Gah I mean secondrow more haste less speed 🤦🤦

TheWeeDonkey · 12/07/2021 12:46

@DankGraveGhouls I am so sorry you went through that, and you're exactly right , this is how grooming works, in plain sight.

nocturnalcatfreetogoodhome · 12/07/2021 12:48

Wtaf.

I don't know anyone who would think this is OK. I can't understand anyone who would think this is OK.

Have I missed when it became appropriate to have genitalia on show in front of children?!

Cloud1921 · 12/07/2021 12:49

I'm so sorry that happened to you @DankGraveGhouls and you are completely right.

feellikeanalien · 12/07/2021 12:51

I would have been so angry if I had turned up with my child to be confronted with this and would have been tempted to call the police.

I say tempted because I can well imagine that if they bothered to turn up they would probably be more interested in accusing me of a hate crime.

It is really scary the way that safeguarding is being undermined more and more each day. If you object you are either a prude or some kind of "phobe". I am really worried for DD growing up in a world like this.

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